Hurt Locker >>>>>>>>>>>> Avatar

[Stringer_Bell]

I just realized that Wall-E wasn't even in the best picture running last year, and UP didn't get any nods for its nominations, not even as a darkhorse. Those films were the , and in the ruckus over Avatar and Hurt Locker, it seems UP was forgotten.

Both Wall-E and UP are more human and original than those "grown up" movies that get all the credit for being "the best." They aren't just kids movies, can I get witness?!?!

[DarkReign]

Everyone here loves watching millionaires pretend to give a about winning basketball games so I don't know what you're getting at. . .

Eh, true. Touché.

[Trainwreck2100]

I just realized that Wall-E wasn't even in the best picture running last year, and UP didn't get any nods for its nominations, not even as a darkhorse. Those films were the , and in the ruckus over Avatar and Hurt Locker, it seems UP was forgotten.

Both Wall-E and UP are more human and original than those "grown up" movies that get all the credit for being "the best." They aren't just kids movies, can I get witness?!?!

won for best score

[Stringer_Bell]

won for best score

My bad, but I meant overall as a best picture nominee...the score was the so it's victory was a given.

[Trainwreck2100]

My bad, but I meant overall as a best picture nominee...the score was the so it's victory was a given.

it was good, that intro scene which was basically five minutes of score was great. But I doubt an animated film would ever win best film, the "best animated feature" just came out in the last decade.

[Stringer_Bell]

it was good, that intro scene which was basically five minutes of score was great. But I doubt an animated film would ever win best film, the "best animated feature" just came out in the last decade.

True, but I'm not a fan of this whole segregation between animated and non-animated features...and why isn't Avatar treated as animated? I know it's a hybrid, but Space Jam was a hybrid too and I didn't see anyone calling that a groundbreaking film. Just because it's not 3-d or made by the dude from itanic doesn't mean it's any better than a 100% animated film.

If we're gonna hold animated films in a "separate but equal" category, we should also do it for films made by women and blacks.

[lefty]

LOL Avatar

LOL Cameron

LOL @ being owned by his ex-wife

[balli]

So did Star Wars in 1977. It didn't win .

Yeah, but only because Annie Hall was like the best movie of the 70's.

I agree with Stringer about the animated/non-animated thing. I knew Wall-E wasn't even nominated, but I thought at the time, it should have been. , it might should have won.

[Johnny RIngo]

Serious question. How many of you actually saw The Hurt Locker in the theater? How many of you have rented it? Judging from its numbers at the box office and rentals, I'd say not many of you. This was about as bad as Berry winning Best Actress for Monsters Ball. The movie was lame. I couldn't wait for both of the main characters to catch a suicide bomb in the face. I guess if you feed people long enough, it starts to taste good, but it's still . Overall, this was another poor year in film making. The Road should have at least been nominated. Best Director was Cameron's hands down. All of those movies were rehashed from previous films, so what, the guy invented a new technology that has changed the way films will be made forever.

I don't know about that. I really liked The Proposition(Hillcoat's previous film), the book was entertaining enough, and Viggo Mortensen happens to be one of my favorite actors. It just didn't come together(for me at least). I guess my expectations were too high.

[Kermit]

Yeah, but only because Annie Hall was like the best movie of the 70's.

I agree with Stringer about the animated/non-animated thing. I knew Wall-E wasn't even nominated, but I thought at the time, it should have been. , it might should have won.

Yeah, sure. If you want to live in a fantasy world where the Godfather movies never happened. Wait, was it "like the best movie of the 70's" or "like ONE of the best movies of the 70's"?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Wait, lakaluva actually reads?

It's like a whole different world on the Club forum

[4>0rings]

attica!

[Jacob1983]

I think the 3D really gets people hooked into thinking that Avatar is a great movie. I will admit that the 3D got to me. After a week or two when I saw Avatar, I started to realize how much the movie was hyped and overrated because of the 3D. If you take away the 3D aspect and special effects of Avatar, it's an average movie at best. The Hurt Locker is a pretty good movie. And you have to admit that the movie came out of nowhere and surprised everyone. The director is hot too. It would not surprise if Jeremy Renner and/or Anthony Mackie got some action from her on the set of The Hurt Locker.

[MannyIsGod]

Hurt Locker was your stereotypical cowboy soldier who survives on the strength of his character rather than by making sound decisions; typical Hollywood garbage. Really noble the way he got his boy shot at the end too.

If this was what you got out of Hurt Locker than I'd say you missed a lot of it.

[MannyIsGod]

For sure.

But say what you will about it, Avatar was the most important film of 2009. And Cameron probably put 20x the amount of time and effort into making it, compared to any of his co-nominees. his visual effects team, he should have taken at least one award home himself.

What? Most important? This is 2010, there was nothing ground breaking about using CGI to make a movie.

[MannyIsGod]

I haven't seen all of the films that were nominated so I can't really speak to if HL was better than IGB since I've only seen HL but I do know that the way the HL was setup was fairly amazing. The intensity was shown incredibly well and I think the director did an amazing job of transporting you to the scene.

The characters were far deeper than some regular blow up soldier movie but I can understand why many people didn't see that. She did a great job of showing how crazy SGT James was and how he manufactured situations to get himself and his team into because that was the only way he could function. Watching him stateside was fairly pitiful. I thought even way from bombs she did a great job with his character in showing how volatile he could be. I thought the sniper scene was fairly amazing on a lot of story telling levels as well.

Avatar was pretty but come the on. I've got computer games with better graphics but I don't think they need to win best picture.

[Spurminator]

All Avatar had going for it was advanced 3-D technology that made it so you could watch the movie without feeling cross-eyed. It did set a new standard for 3D movies, and even as early as this summer you're going to see most of the blockbuster-type movies transition to 3D. I'd agree it was a very "important" film, probably the most important of last year. But because it has nothing to offer beneath the pretty visuals, it's going to be outdated sooner vs. later.

[MannyIsGod]

Honestly, when I saw Beauwolf in 3d a few years ago I thought it was no different than Avatar in 3d. If 3d is Avatar's hold to fame then all it did was make it more mainstream, not any better. Its a way for movie companies to give you a 20 cent pair of glasses and charge you another 3 bucks to get in.

[monosylab1k]

if Avatar was the most important movie of 2009, then by that same logic you'd have to say that Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was the most important movie of 2001. That movie had groundbreaking visuals in much the same way Avatar did. But I doubt anyone would want to give FF that type of acclaim, because the movie sucked. Just like Avatar. The only difference is that one movie had a whole of a lot of hype attached to it and the other one didn't.

[redzero]

if Avatar was the most important movie of 2009, then by that same logic you'd have to say that Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was the most important movie of 2001. That movie had groundbreaking visuals in much the same way Avatar did. But I doubt anyone would want to give FF that type of acclaim, because the movie sucked. Just like Avatar. The only difference is that one movie had a whole of a lot of hype attached to it and the other one didn't.

FF's visuals are still impressive nine years later.

I don't even know why people made Best Picture a fight between Avatar and The Hurt Locker. Inglorious Basterds was clearly a better film than Avatar, as well as Up and District 9.

[Jacob1983]

I think the SFC James character in The Hurt Locker is probably the main reason why the movie is a great movie. His character carries that movie. He's not the typical stereotypical movie soldier. He has no fear and loves what he does. If Jeff Bridges hadn't have been nominated, I really think Jeremy Renner would have a really good shot of winning the Oscar.

[Stringer_Bell]

He's not the typical stereotypical movie soldier. He has no fear and loves what he does.

That sound pretty typical to me, I liked the portrayals of the military in Generation Kill. A lot of people might be turned off by it, but I think it's accurate and captures the relationships (no ) between men in combat in a way that isn't always shown. Does the Academy also recognize TV mini-series? Cuz sometimes genius ideas comes out on cable, see my avatar.

[ChumpDumper]

That sound pretty typical to me, I liked the portrayals of the military in Generation Kill. A lot of people might be turned off by it, but I think it's accurate and captures the relationships (no ) between men in combat in a way that isn't always shown. Does the Academy also recognize TV mini-series? Cuz sometimes genius ideas comes out on cable, see my avatar.

There's a different academy and awards for TV (Emmys).

[baseline bum]

I haven't seen all of the films that were nominated so I can't really speak to if HL was better than IGB since I've only seen HL but I do know that the way the HL was setup was fairly amazing. The intensity was shown incredibly well and I think the director did an amazing job of transporting you to the scene.

The characters were far deeper than some regular blow up soldier movie but I can understand why many people didn't see that. She did a great job of showing how crazy SGT James was and how he manufactured situations to get himself and his team into because that was the only way he could function. Watching him stateside was fairly pitiful. I thought even way from bombs she did a great job with his character in showing how volatile he could be. I thought the sniper scene was fairly amazing on a lot of story telling levels as well.

Avatar was pretty but come the on. I've got computer games with better graphics but I don't think they need to win best picture.

Sounds like your stereotypical Hollywood cowboy soldier to me. The guy was ridiculously incompetent and yet he was the best because he was so brave. I think it's an idiotic premise that doesn't make any sense; bombs and bullets don't care about the size of one's balls. The guy is Rambo, except you're supposed to take him seriously.

[jaffies]

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