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    And meanwhile... Bogans has all the playing time he wants !

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    I can't wait for this same conversation to go on next season about Splitter instead of Ian.

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    Indeed his decisions are very frustrating. Decisions that have affected this season and could adversely affect next year too.

    It's because there are no checks and balances with Pop. Being the Spurs answer to Red Auerbach, gives him free rein to do what he wants. When his decisions backfire, there is no one to call him on it.
    I'm sure he decided to have Timmy playing at an All-Star level to start the season while having Manu playing timid and Tony injured. Or having Manu playing like an All-Star the second half while having Timmy playing like he's 50 and Tony injured.

    When you guys admit that Pop hasn't had a full deck this season you'll rest better.

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    If Ian could shoot the three ball at even a 30% clip he'd be out there getting Bonner's minutes night in and night out for good ol' coach Pop.

    But as he can't, he's been rotting at the end of the bench and/or not getting developed in Austin.

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    Ian sucks. I wish ppl would face the facts, rather than resort to fantasy

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    I have never got mad at Pop for not playing a player the way I get mad at the way he handles Ian.

    The reason is the costs we have sunk into the man.
    Theres a difference from signing a Beno Udrih, playing him, then sitting him....and signing an Ian Mahinmi, putting him in your farm system for two years, being more than willing to play him for 1 year, then when he gets hurt, never playing him seriously again even when your paper thin in the front court.

    The spurs also pay money to run the Toros and there is no sense in keeping onto Ian this long and doing jack with him. Trade his ing ass when he's expiring if you've made your mind up and just want to let him walk.

    We've seen scrub tacked onto trades time and time again. Don't tell me Ian could not have been tacked onto a trade.

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    If Ian could shoot the three ball at even a 30% clip he'd be out there getting Bonner's minutes night in and night out for good ol' coach Pop.

    But as he can't, he's been rotting at the end of the bench and/or not getting developed in Austin.
    He would be getting schooled in the D league.

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    The fact of the matter is that both parties have an argument at this point, which makes Pop's handling of the Ian situation so ing frustating.


    Not one player on spurstalk.com or in Spurs fandom history has ONE ING CLUE as to how Ian would react with two or three games (two or three games!) worth of starter's minutes in a row. Not one. And we never will. Because Pop is stubborn, and in a season in which we are fighting for our lives just to get eliminated in Round One again, we did not give our most promising prospect a REAL ING CHANCE. If he travels three times in 1 minute, who ing cares if he played a total of 6 minutes over twenty games?

    This whole business makes me sick, and I've scoffed Pop before, but never as seriously and viscerally as I am scoffing him this season for his decisions.

    I was going to type up a reply, but this pretty much covers it.

    You forgot to add the fact some team will give him some manageable deal this summer for like 2 million per year and we'll let him walk. And he'll develop into a rotation player for said team....

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    well the spurs did stuck by him for 3 years while payin him a salary where he has shown nothing...

    as a whole this season has been anyway...from pop down to the last man on the roster...

    How does one show anything when they've racked up about 80 minutes of PT in three years on this squad?

    And please don't say he hasn't earned it. When like Finley, Bonner, Jefferson, Bogans, etc. gets trotted out for slaughter every night, damn straight Ian deserves some more burn.

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    People here talking about how Ian is garbage obviously dont know the game of basketball...I'm not calling him a svaior but the guy gets 5 minutes out of the blue and you expect him to come in and dominate? The guy hussled on D and had 2 TOs that were clearly his fault....But if you play the game of basketball you know how hard it is to get in some kind of rhythm after not playing for an extended period of time.

    meanwhile you have Roger Mason logging 1-10 from the field and RJ going 1-3 in 28 minutes...too long I've heard how spoiled some of you'll are...oh the Spurs aren't doing so hot so lets throw them under the bus...DIE HARD SPURS FAN, huh? Ian should get spot minutes to see what he has and after a set number of games then give an opiion...Its obvious both teams had to adjust to not having key players, but Cleveland just did better...By no means are we to give up..What I saw for 5 minutes was a guy who hussled his butt off on D...if anything he altered 3 shots while he was in..but dont come on here and proclaim how he is garbage. Post something that makes sense!

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    Players as raw as Mahinmi don't benefit from being force feeded minutes. It doesn't help them and can be counterproductive.

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    He would be getting schooled in the D league.
    You just showed your ignorance if you think Ian would be getting schooled in DLeague. Might want to go check out his stats there, or watch some of his gametape sometime.

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    People here talking about how Ian is garbage obviously dont know the game of basketball...I'm not calling him a svaior but the guy gets 5 minutes out of the blue and you expect him to come in and dominate? The guy hussled on D and had 2 TOs that were clearly his fault....But if you play the game of basketball you know how hard it is to get in some kind of rhythm after not playing for an extended period of time.

    meanwhile you have Roger Mason logging 1-10 from the field and RJ going 1-3 in 28 minutes...too long I've heard how spoiled some of you'll are...oh the Spurs aren't doing so hot so lets throw them under the bus...DIE HARD SPURS FAN, huh? Ian should get spot minutes to see what he has and after a set number of games then give an opiion...Its obvious both teams had to adjust to not having key players, but Cleveland just did better...By no means are we to give up..What I saw for 5 minutes was a guy who hussled his butt off on D...if anything he altered 3 shots while he was in..but dont come on here and proclaim how he is garbage. Post something that makes sense!

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    Players as raw as Mahinmi don't benefit from being force feeded minutes. It doesn't help them and can be counterproductive.
    you realize you called Mahinmi raw and this is his 4th year in the league?

    this is to show. It's not Ian's fault, but it's also not SPurs/Pop fault. has just not worked out. It's time to move on for both parties.

    and even then, Ian will still be a bust. 2 words: Kwame Brown.

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    People here talking about how Ian is garbage obviously dont know the game of basketball...I'm not calling him a svaior but the guy gets 5 minutes out of the blue and you expect him to come in and dominate? The guy hussled on D and had 2 TOs that were clearly his fault....But if you play the game of basketball you know how hard it is to get in some kind of rhythm after not playing for an extended period of time.

    meanwhile you have Roger Mason logging 1-10 from the field and RJ going 1-3 in 28 minutes...too long I've heard how spoiled some of you'll are...oh the Spurs aren't doing so hot so lets throw them under the bus...DIE HARD SPURS FAN, huh? Ian should get spot minutes to see what he has and after a set number of games then give an opiion...Its obvious both teams had to adjust to not having key players, but Cleveland just did better...By no means are we to give up..What I saw for 5 minutes was a guy who hussled his butt off on D...if anything he altered 3 shots while he was in..but dont come on here and proclaim how he is garbage. Post something that makes sense!
    Ian is garbage. It's the truth.

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    i can tell you that if you look at how bynum was handled by the lakers...and how pop has handled ian...it is pathetic to see...

    bynum looked like an uncoordinated scrub a couple of seasons ago and remember he was even thrown under the bus by kobe....

    but the lakers put him on the court for EXTENDED minutes---and even though he is still raw....he is a different player than two seasons ago...some nights he embarrasses established nba centers...but he was GIVEN A CHANCE...


    we DON'T know anthing about Ian...except that he has length and hops....but he never gets minutes....one or two minutes to try and play PERFECTLY---or be yanked...it is a disgrace....

    the worst part----is that THIS should have been discovered EARLY in the season...


    now...the spurs are trying to make the playoffs so pop even has a reason to not waste too much time on ian...so ian is just an unfortunate mistake all around...

    mistake in how he was handled....unfortunate stroke of bad luck with injuries and then a mistake to be playing for pop who can be brilliant----but can be the total opposite on any given day...

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    Guys, the Spurs didn't pick up Ian's option. He's gone next season. Even if you believe that playing him would help his future development (it wouldn't), you'd just be helping other team.

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    There are so many NBA teams out there right now that would love to have a 21 year old fast-as- bigman who can run the floor and alter shots. So ing many. Not to be a dominant franchise player but just to BE A PLAYER. And we're not even letting Ian be a ing player. Think of all the players this team has acquired the past five years. Big Dog. Chuck Ward. Nazr. Damon.
    Pop let them all have a chance to find a groove.

    The only player Pop shafted more was Alex Garcia. And you know what? We did not spend two ing years developing him in our farm system.

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    I have never got mad at Pop for not playing a player the way I get mad at the way he handles Ian.

    The reason is the costs we have sunk into the man.
    Theres a difference from signing a Beno Udrih, playing him, then sitting him....and signing an Ian Mahinmi, putting him in your farm system for two years, being more than willing to play him for 1 year, then when he gets hurt, never playing him seriously again even when your paper thin in the front court.

    The spurs also pay money to run the Toros and there is no sense in keeping onto Ian this long and doing jack with him. Trade his ing ass when he's expiring if you've made your mind up and just want to let him walk.

    We've seen scrub tacked onto trades time and time again. Don't tell me Ian could not have been tacked onto a trade.
    +1

    i never understand why they shipped beno out when he only had one series against the pistons in the finals, cause he couldnt bring the ball up halfcourt...and him being out of shape the following season, then bringing veterans like NVE who was favoured by pop over beno, then season after bringin MM again another veteran over Beno.

    as for ian, the FO stuck by him with given opportunitie and he has shown jack , if he was on any other team he been cut from the roster and out of the nba.

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    2 words!!!

    Kwame Brown!

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    You just showed your ignorance if you think Ian would be getting schooled in DLeague. Might want to go check out his stats there, or watch some of his gametape sometime.
    Oh I'm sorry, let me rephrase....he would have a good game, sprain an ankle and be out for an entire season.

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    +1

    i never understand why they shipped beno out when he only had one series against the pistons in the finals, cause he couldnt bring the ball up halfcourt...
    Jesus Christ. Championship teams don't give players 2 series to prove themselves. :rolles

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    It's funny..

    As I've said many times, there's a GOOD chance that Ian isn't a good player..I just don't understand how these people always judge him from playing 5 minutes in a game and being pulled..even when he doesn't play that bad, like tonight, they on him..

    Have some of you never played organized basketball?..

    He NEVER plays, how is he supposed to get in a rhythm playing basketball?..how is he supposed to learn the little things about the NBA if he doesn't play?..when your coach isn't giving you minutes and then he finally does, there is A LOT of pressure on you to perform, so everything you do is magnified..you think too much because you're scared to get pulled..

    This team has A LOT of dead weight that have LONG leashes..so I find it comical that these people think he doesn't deserve a chance based on garbage minutes, while the other scrubs on this team get ample opportunity..

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    I have an idea. Let's not play a guy with potential all year and throw him into a game with high intensity. These coming games against mediocre teams should be a real opportunity to see if IAn can hang, with appropriate PT. If he doesn't...I am with the OP.

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    It's funny..

    As I've said many times, there's a GOOD chance that Ian isn't a good player..I just don't understand how these people always judge him from playing 5 minutes in a game and being pulled..even when he doesn't play that bad, like tonight, they on him..

    Have some of you never played organized basketball?..

    He NEVER plays, how is he supposed to get in a rhythm playing basketball?..how is he supposed to learn the little things about the NBA if he doesn't play?..when your coach isn't giving you minutes and then he finally does, there is A LOT of pressure on you to perform, so everything you do is magnified..you think too much because you're scared to get pulled..

    This team has A LOT of dead weight that have LONG leashes..so I find it comical that these people think he doesn't deserve a chance based on garbage minutes, while the other scrubs on this team get ample opportunity..
    have you heard of NBA practice sessions?

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