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Where's Devin Harris, Trenton Hassell, DeSagana Diop, Moe Ager, Keith Van Horn and two first-round picks for Jason Kidd, Malik Allen and Antoine Wright?
Seems like a cool thread to make. I said before 1980 because most of us are too young to know about those rip offs involving Kareem and Wilt (no idea what those trades were). I don't want this to turn into a Gasol argument, so make your lists based on how the trade ended up in the long run, not how it appeared at the time. Since the Gasol trade ended up being decent for Memphis (regardless of how it looked at the time), it shouldn't appear on anyone's list or pop up at all in this thread. So basically, if draft picks or draft rights to a certain player are involved, your list should factor in what that pick or those draft rights turned into. With that in mind, have fun.
5. 76ers trade Charles Barkley to the Suns for Jeff Hornacek, Andrew Lang and Tim Perry. Barkley went on to win MVP that season and was a 4-time all star as a Sun. Was the superstar Phoenix needed to get to the finals. They couldn't beat Jordan in the finals but no one could. Philly remained a bottom feeder till the end of the 90's. This would be higher had Barkley lasted longer on Phoenix but Phoenix traded him 4 years after getting him and his career ended on a bitter note in Phoenix.
4. Milwaukee Bucks trade draft rights to Dirk Nowitzki and Pat Garrity to Dallas for draft rights to Robert "Tractor" Traylor. That by itself probably makes this list, but the fact Dallas ended up trading Pat Garrity for a backup point guard in Phoenix named Steve Nash makes it even worse. Dallas turned someone who wound being a fat bust into two players who both won MVP. The trade led to Dallas becoming a perrenial 50+ win team when they previously were a bottom feeder. In all likelihood Dirk will be considered the best Mavericks player ever when he retires. More than 10 years after the trade, Dallas has put together a darkhorse contender still built around Dirk. If Dallas manages to win it all with Dirk this trade moves into the top 3.
3. Houston Rockets trade Moses Malone to Philly for Caldwell Jones and the 3rd overall pick in the 1983 draft. Moses Malone fit in perfectly as the dominant big man to help Erving and Philly win its' 2nd championship in its 1st season with Malone. Houston had the worst record in the NBA the season after trading Malone and wound up getting a player (Rodney McCray) with the 3rd overall pick who went on to have a pedestrian career. Houston basically traded a HoF center for close to nothing.
2. Charlotte Hornets trade draft rights to Kobe Bryant to LA in exchange for Vlade Divac. Vlade only played two seasons with Charlotte, while Kobe has won 4 les as a Laker will end up having the most career points as a Laker and be considered by many to have the most illustrious career as a Laker. This trade isn't #1 because Charlotte in all likelihood would not have done it had Kobe not demanded it.
1. Boston trades the #1 overall pick (Joe Barry Carroll) and the #13 overall pick (Rickey Brown) to Golden State for the #3 overall pick (Kevin McHale) and Robert Parish. Trade led to 3 Boston les in the 80's and what most consider to be one of the best teams of all time (1986 Celtics). Both McHale and Parish are HoFers on the best 50 players ever list, while Brown didn't make it in the NBA and Carroll's career went nowhere after a few solid years.
Where's Devin Harris, Trenton Hassell, DeSagana Diop, Moe Ager, Keith Van Horn and two first-round picks for Jason Kidd, Malik Allen and Antoine Wright?
Well, if Kobe stayed in Charlotte, there probably wouldn't be a "New Orleans" Hornets, so I'm down with that.
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And that trade should probably be #1. My bad.
New Jersey bent Mark Cuban over and butt ed him on that trade. That's why they're so awesome and Dallas sucks right now.
New Jersey bent Mark Cuban over and butt ed him on that trade. That's why they're so awesome and Dallas sucks right now.
Good point. I heard the Nets might even break a record this season they're so good.
Dallas fans throwing Devin Harris and DeSagana "Duncan Killer" Diop under the bus again.
Tsk tsk.
How are we throwing them under the bus? We made a trade that made our team better. Best wishes to them as they continue their careers elsewhere.
yeah that's it, that's exactly ing it. You are one stupid .
I guess not believing Devin Harris is the Second Coming means we're throwing him under the bus.
is this the same Diop who allowed Duncan to score 41 points in the 2006 series game 7?
Either way, please stick to the thread topic. Mavfan has proven their point that that trade was good for them especially with how Kidd's playing. Anyone who still thinks it was some monumental rip off for New Jersey is an idiot.
Don't pretend that you aren't taking schadenfreude in the failures of the Nets and whatever team that Diop is currently on.
Diop stopped Duncan when it counted--the final minutes of the fourth and in overtime.
Either way, please stick to the thread topic. Mavfan has proven their point that that trade was good for them especially with how Kidd's playing. Anyone who still thinks it was some monumental rip off for New Jersey is an idiot.
Personally, I don't care either way. I just find it amusing how Mavs fans get so defensive when Devin Harris is brought up.
I don't give a about either of them. I take joy in seeing everybody who trashed the Mavs for making the trade look like dumb s.
Rasheed Wallace for a sack of potatoes doesn't make the list? Are you kidding? Joe D traded Chuckie Atkins, Zeljico Rebracca, and Lindsey Hunter, for Mike James and Rasheed Wallace, and even GOT HUNTER BACK!
that's a good one.
Right, cause they were getting defensive. They didn't bring up Devin Harris on their own in this thread.
Do you think it's more lopsided than any of the 5 trades I mentioned?
I gleefully take schadenfreude at all the "experts" and "analysts" who thought Dallas shot themselves in the foot with that trade. Harris is a nice player who would be a very good complementary piece for a good team. Sucks for him that he's stuck on Jersey. And as for Diop, the Bobcats are having their best season in franchise history. Good for him.
Hornacek was the player that put the Jazz over the top in 1997. Not Phili's fault for having a crappy organization and not utilizing him. At the very least, Hornacek could play basketball in the NBA and went just as far as Barcley in terms of not beating Jordan in the Finals (granted in a lesser role). Atkins was almost a non-factor since he was traded away, and Sheed>Barcley. The gap in this trade was much bigger.
The player selected with the first round pick included in the deal was Josh Smith.
You have to at least mention that.
I was not aware of that.
And IIRC Zelli had an unresolved heart condition at the time. Bears mentioning as well...
where is the gasol trade?
Richard Jefferson for Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas. Spurs got butt ed on that one.
And Luis Scola for some sack of .
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