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son Collison isn't even the best rookie on his own team! ... amazing how many of you still overlook Thornton.
Do you guys think he has a chance? Yeah, Tyreke Evans is probably the front runner, but the numbers Collison is putting up is spectacular. If it were not for all the turn overs he looks like an elite PG right now.
son Collison isn't even the best rookie on his own team! ... amazing how many of you still overlook Thornton.
No, Tyreke is too beasty.
I just don't think Thornton is putting up the numbers to get rookie of the year though.
son he has better numbers than Collison lol ... not to mention that per 36 minutes he is putting up 21 a game!
lol 11 pts and 5 ast...no ing way. Look at the record with him in vs Paul, its no question he's aight at best.
I don't think so...
Thornton is averaging 12.9, 2.6 boards, and 1.1 assists
Collison is averaging 11, 5 assists, and 1 steal per game.
And remember that those averages suck for Collison because he played very little when CP3 was healthy.
The past month he has played out of his mind, which is why he got rookie of the month.
exactly. I don't mean to bash Collison by any means, but he's not that great and has a LOT to learn. he has a very selfish style of play with his "shoot first / me first" mentality and constantly turns the ball over in clutch situations. I forget the exact record with him as the starter, but its terrible. something like 7-12 I think ... I know that when Paul went down, the Hornets were like 4 or 5 games over .500 and were easily in the playoff race at like the #7 or 8th spot. now look at us.
Collison ROTY? Sure he is if you exclude this guy..
1.Tyreke
2.Curry
3.Jennings
Son, Collison is the best point gaurd on his team.
Collison>Cp3
No, Collison won't win, but there are no two rookies I would rather have other than Collison and Thornton.
Just curious: What is the non-Piston fan's perspective on Jonas Jerebko. Has anyone even heard of him outside Detroit? He has impressed the out of me this season. Not saying he is better than Evans, Jennings, or Collison, but just curious if he has any stock around the NBA...
Maybe he should play 36 mins then.
I think he's an excellent role-player in the making: very good defender, can guard long 3s and mobile 4s, decent rebounder, extremely tough play, smart, plays within his limitations, gritty, mistaken free, developing jump-shot...
But I may not be a good example, I thought all of this about Jerebko pre-draft.
I like the Wall of Jerebko moniker, btw.
Trading Chris Paul because you get Collison is more or less the same of trading LeBron James because you just drafted Richard Jefferson.
No way, It's Tyreke. then Jennings.
?? Drafted Richard Jefferson?
I didn't understand that part of the post, but trading CP3 might be a good move. What's the point of having 2 great rookie guards (Collison and Thronton) and CP3 when you could trade CP3 for a great forward or center to go along with David West?
+1
I might consider this quote as my signature.
Because Collison will have a similar career to Jefferson (hopefully he won't decline so early) - a quality starter, a good complimentary piece for good teams, a 3rd/4th best player in a contender.
Dude, I've already explained this to you: when you get a player as gifted as Chris Paul, widely regarded as the most talented PG in the game, you treasure him. You build your franchise around him. You do not under any cir stances trade him without getting a top five talent of similar or younger age back in return. Do you think you'll get LeBron James? Howard? Durant? If so, I agree, trade Paul. What exactly are you asking for Paul?
Talents like Paul go a long way in making you legit contenders for championships. Collison isn't even a top-5 PG in his own draft down the road.
You build a team around Collison, Thornton and an All-Star big man and you have a good team that won't sniff a le while you'll spend years hoping that a miraculous trade or draft lands you a talent equiparable to Paul that can make you legit contenders.
Package Collison+West and try to get an All-Star caliber player.
sons trading CP3 because of Darren Collison would be just like if the Spurs traded Duncan because they have Blair now .... just downright stupid and idiotic. some of you need to learn the game of basketball before spewing such foolish nonsense on message boards. seriously ... this whole "what have you done for me in the last hour?" mentality that most of you have about NBA players is absurd.
And you don't need to overreact so much. I'm not saying the Hornets should trade CP3 for nothing, but if an All Star big man is on the trading block the Hornets should look at that next season.
Thornton is having a better overall season than Collison.
That said, both guys at this point are playing at an extremely high level, including more than Curry and Jennings. Evans is still playing really well and he's a clear-cut number one rookie, no discussion.
Also, with the way the Hornets are stuck with some bad contracts, I don't think they will contend with CP3 anytime soon. The only way to get rid of some of the bad contracts like Okafor would be to trade CP3. The Hornets can easily build a strong team around Thornton and Collison.
As long as Okafor is on the team, CP3 won't win a championship here. Okafor's contract is just like Peja's. Basically paying a role player a super high money and can't add further talent to contend.
It's hard to win a championship when your best player is a PG.
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