I resigned from my job at the mall

[Blake]

please explain. you mean the literalist christian?

I'm not sure what you mean by literalist Christian.

I'm talking about most of the Christian faiths that I have come across.

sorry man.

that's like saying i'm not interested in eating healthy or exercising.

my goal is to lose weight.

no it's not like saying that.

okay. i don't know. maybe they can, maybe they can't. i think it could be possible for someone who has committed the act of murder to repent. i mean truly repent, and give their lives to Christ. but people are very flippant about what 'give your life to Christ' means. and whether that is possible when involuntarily incarcerated is a whole nuther question.

why wouldn't it be possible to give your life when being involuntarily incarcerated?

what would be the difference between that and given a diagnosis of a terminal disease?

can the person with the terminal disease not truly repent either?

[Dr. Gonzo]

I believe angel_luv is a fantastic troll. Only she can rile up the club like this.

excellent work

[MannyIsGod]

I meant to put i'm sure she's NOT trying to gold dig.

[Blake]

Ploto, that is enough!

Given that 95% of your and my discussions have been Rasho or Raptors related, I find it surprising that you presume you have so much inside knowledge into Bo's and my decision making process.

You do not know what you are talking about.

Assume away- but make no mistake, that is all you are doing.

I would like to be on good terms with you but if we cannot communicate honestly then there really is no point.

whoa.

If you don't like it AL, don't put it out there for people to dissect and then give their opinions.

On top of that, if you are really that confident in yourself and how you are living your life then you should really not care what some poster on a message board says about you.

[angel_luv]

I don't think she's a bad person at all, and I'm sure she's try to gold dig Bo so she can sit at home and eat bon bons, BUT I LOLed when Bo said that he was the one who brought up marriage etc etc. .

It really is the truth!

Originally, I wanted to get married on October 10, 2010.

But Bo insisted that we get married sooner so frequently and passionately that he convinced me marry him on October 10, 2009. And even after I made that concession, I STILL received e-mails from Bo where he is ruefully counting down the oh so many days till our wedding date.

I have never once had to wonder if Bo really wanted to marry me. That is one of the many things I appreciate about Bo.

[Dr. Gonzo]

whoa.

If you don't like it AL, don't put it out there for people to dissect and then give their opinions.

On top of that, if you are really that confident in yourself and how you are living your life then you should really not care what some poster on a message board says about you.

I'm sure she doesn't really care about what these people are saying. imho, she just enjoys sharing her life with the spurstalk community. I don't think she is here trying to get justification of her decision from random strangers.

[Blake]

Ploto, I will admit that the tone of your posts to me in the past few months has both stung and suprised me. I considered you and I to be friends of sorts- in the regard that we have corresponded so much about the Raptors.
But to me the language of your posts gives no indication that you find me tolerable, much less likeable.

I am sure that were I to set my hurt feelings aside, I would find wisdom to be gained from your posts. That has been very difficult for me to do so far, but I plan to keep a better perspective in the future.

I think ploto is just giving an honest opinion based on what you have posted.

I don't see anything malicious.

[angel_luv]

whoa.

If you don't like it AL, don't put it out there for people to dissect and then give their opinions.

On top of that, if you are really that confident in yourself and how you are living your life then you should really not care what some poster on a message board says about you.

I don't mind people having their say. I am not afraid to live honestly before people as I search and seek, try and fail, and find my way. I know that consequences of putting myself out there and they are ones I can live with.

I just view comments from you, for example, and Ploto differently.

You have never indicated to me that we are friends. You are all around consistent in your behavior towards me. I appreciate that about you, even when I disagree with your opinion.

With Ploto, she and I have had very cordial discussions concerning the Raptors and those led me to view her as a friend.
And I would not speak to a friend as harshly as I feel Ploto has often addressed me in recent threads.
So, though perhaps I erred by mis-catergorizing Ploto's and my correspondence as a friendship, I was nevertheless disappointed to have to acknowledge that my friend, really is not one.

[Blake]

I'm sure she doesn't really care about what these people are saying. imho, she just enjoys sharing her life with the spurstalk community. I don't think she is here trying to get justification of her decision from random strangers.

I am sure that were I to set my hurt feelings aside.....

I dunno..

[Blake]

I don't mind people having their say. I am not afraid to live honestly before people as I search and seek, try and fail, and find my way. I know that consequences of putting myself out there and they are ones I can live with.

I just view comments from you, for example, and Ploto differently.

You have never indicated to me that we are friends. You are all around consistent in your behavior towards me. I appreciate that about you, even when I disagree with your opinion.

With Ploto, she and I have had very cordial discussions concerning the Raptors and those led me to view her as a friend.
And I would not speak to a friend as harshly as I feel Ploto has often addressed me in recent threads.
So, though perhaps I erred by mis-catergorizing Ploto's and my correspondence as a friendship, I was nevertheless disappointed to have to acknowledge that my friend, really is not one.

Blake 12:23

sometimes the true friends art the ones that giveth you their honest opinions about you instead of whateth you wanteth to heareth.

[SpursWoman]

I think Bo and Veronica are good people even though they strike me as bat crazy. Then again most of the world strikes me as bat crazy and at least I can count on them to procreate the child stars of Jesus Camp 2: The 2nd generation which will provide me with some good entertainment.

[clambake]

how can she honestly say that they, together, came to these decisions when she fully admitted to being the one that dominates them all?

[SpursWoman]

It really is the truth!

Originally, I wanted to get married on October 10, 2010.

But Bo insisted that we get married sooner so frequently and passionately that he convinced me marry him on October 10, 2009. And even after I made that concession, I STILL received e-mails from Bo where he is ruefully counting down the oh so many days till our wedding date.

I have never once had to wonder if Bo really wanted to marry me. That is one of the many things I appreciate about Bo.

I wouldn't put that pedestal too high ....

we all do what we gotta do for sex

True, true.

[angel_luv]

No, you guys are right.

I do care what Ploto thinks. I am not sure why, other than I really did think we were friends and I am not used to friends speaking to me the way she has.

Maybe I was somewhat over-sensitive.

[clambake]

No, you guys are right.

I do care what Ploto thinks. I am not sure why, other than I really did think we were friends and I am not used to friends speaking to me the way she has.

Maybe I was somewhat over-sensitive.

maybe you found out that you can't dominate her the way you do bo.

[angel_luv]

Blake 12:23

sometimes the true friends art the ones that giveth you their honest opinions about you instead of whateth you wanteth to heareth.

Yes, I agree a friend should be honest with you.

But I think a friend has an equal responsibility to help you better understand yourself by asking you questions that get you talking and problem solving, instead of making snide remarks that make you feel ashamed or unworthy or stupid.

Also a true friend knows that no one is ever always on the top of their game and does not repeatedly kick you when you are down.

A friend might also recognize and appreciate how I am trying to find my way in life and give me a chance to succeed rather than assume I am going to fail.

[Blake]

No, you guys are right.

I do care what Ploto thinks. I am not sure why, other than I really did think we were friends and I am not used to friends speaking to me the way she has.

Maybe I was somewhat over-sensitive.

Maybe.

[MannyIsGod]

I've come to appreciate Ploto's posts over the past few years and I find myself agreeing with her more than not. I can't speak to whether or not you two are friends as I've never been privy to your private conversation but I don't think Ploto wishes you ill will or to piss you off with any of her posts.

I think that Ploto - like most on here - have trouble with looking at things with your point of view because quite frankly your point of view is incredibly different than most other people. So when you say some of the things you do, the first reaction many people have is "Uh, what?". So just think of those posts as Ploto saying "Uh, what?" in her own way.

[angel_luv]

I've come to appreciate Ploto's posts over the past few years and I find myself agreeing with her more than not. I can't speak to whether or not you two are friends as I've never been privy to your private conversation but I don't think Ploto wishes you ill will or to piss you off with any of her posts.

I think that Ploto - like most on here - have trouble with looking at things with your point of view because quite frankly your point of view is incredibly different than most other people. So when you say some of the things you do, the first reaction many people have is "Uh, what?". So just think of those posts as Ploto saying "Uh, what?" in her own way.

I just know that when most of you " Uh, what?" me, I do not walk away from the conversation self-doubting and/ or feeling compelled to be ashamed of myself.

I know my views are radically different than yours. But on the same token, your views are radically different than mine.

I truly hope I have never made anyone feel worthless or useless because the decisions they make are not the ones I make.

[Blake]

Yes, I agree a friend should be honest with you.

But I think a friend has an equal responsibility to help you better understand yourself by asking you questions that get you talking and problem solving, instead of making snide remarks that make you feel ashamed or unworthy or stupid.

If that's how remarks make you feel, then that's on you.

Also a true friend knows that no one is ever on the top of their game and does not repeatedly kick you when you are down.

eh, I guess I would define that person as a coach.

A friend might also recognize and appreciate how I am trying to find my way in life and give me a chance to succeed rather than assume I am going to fail.

A friend might also tell you that he/she thinks you are driving off a cliff.

If you feel that you aren't, then say "thanks for the advice friend, duly noted".

It seems hard, but it's really pretty simple.

[Blake]

I just know that when most of you " Uh, what?" me, I do not walk away from the conversation self-doubting and/ or feeling compelled to be ashamed of myself.

why are you self-doubting?

[angel_luv]

A friend might also tell you that he/she thinks you are driving off a cliff.

If you feel that you aren't, then say "thanks for the advice friend, duly noted".

It seems hard, but it's really pretty simple.

While I appreciate your concern, I think it is for each individual to decide for themselves what is fulfilling for them.
I believe this was a good move for me- granted only time will tell. I pray a lot about the decisions I make and trust God to lead me, as He always does.

[bigzak25]

I'm not sure what you mean by literalist Christian.

I'm talking about most of the Christian faiths that I have come across.

a literalist Christian is a professed Christian whom interprets the bible literally 100%.

no it's not like saying that.

you want an answer that you have to earn handed to you on a silver platter.

why wouldn't it be possible to give your life when being involuntarily incarcerated?

what would be the difference between that and given a diagnosis of a terminal disease?

can the person with the terminal disease not truly repent either?

i didn't say it's not possible...i said i didn't know, but i seems to me that it's easy to make a choice when it's the only one you got. is it really a choice at that point? i can profess to be Mr. Charitable 2010, but what does that mean if i'm broke?

[bigzak25]

I truly hope I have never made anyone feel worthless or useless because the decisions they make are not the ones I make.

worthless and useless are point of views dependent on the beholder.

God, Jesus, spiritual enlightenment are meaningless to some.

Material objects are meaningless to others.

are people really thinking you're gonna lets you kids go hungry from quitting a job at the mall?

or are they thinking, just don't come crying to us when you can't afford that big house, new car, etc, etc.

Cuz that what this really comes down to. Material vs. Spiritual.

[angel_luv]

why are you self-doubting?

Because I want to much to do the right thing and I have seriously wrestled over this decision. And I do recognize the ways that this move can be rightly categorized as risky.

I have been through a lot this past year. I have had to deal with a lot of situations that taxed me greatly emotionally and physically, though I won't bore you with the details.

I have done the very best to handle everything that has been thrown at me.

And I am very hopeful that now that some of the outer storms have subsided that Bo and I can begin to in earnest build the home and life that we desire to have together.

Ploto seems to make the assumption that my life is always sunshine and roses.
I have a lot to be grateful for and I choose to always be an eternal optimist.
But I have had to look past my share of dark clouds in order to find the silver lining.

And if Ploto had taken the time to get to know me, she would know that it was not an easy thing for me to quit my job. Even though I do not like the job, I love that twice a month money is flowing into my bank account. That has always given me a sense of security and of all the aspects of life I value, security is way up there on this list.

In quitting my job, I am having to reliquish control ( i.e. my paycheck, my security blanket) and trust Bo to provide financially. If I want spending money from now on, I will have to ask Bo for it. I won't have "my" money anymore.
That reality is not an easy one for a girl who is accustomed to take care of herself.

Bo and I jointly decided I would leave the mall job because having two jobs was not profitable to Bo's and my relationship. Bo and I have rejected what does not work for us and are taking great strides at disovering what does.
We ought to be commended for that, I think.