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I don't get that. I'm no KBP expert, is he really pretending to be European?
Damn he is really dedicated to maintaining this Eastern European who sucks at English persona. Well done (I guess).
I don't get that. I'm no KBP expert, is he really pretending to be European?
Yes. Much thanks for that.
your fake greek accent is rusty. work on that son
The I.P. address he posts from is in Arkansas.
Angela Merkel is really happy that her country taxpayers' money will be spent on Tiago Splitter. Workers from Berlin to Munich are extatic right now............ NOT!
p.s Welcome back!
p.s2 Is Spanoulis still the greatest PG in Europe or is Rubio starting to overtake him?
What? Is this serious? No one in Europe considers Rubio among the best point guards in Europe. He is a good player for age 19 and just that. And not even the best at his age either. He is not considered to be among the best players in Europe to anyone except NBA scouts and NBA fans who probably they did not ever watch him.
He just tore Real Madrid to pieces in the Spanish Cup final!
KBP is a liar it's all LIES !!!!!!!!!
Big conspiracy!!!!
What do you think about Sergio Llull, KBP?
You are NBA only fan. I am not starting any arguments here again to get ban again. But fact is Rubio is consider nowhere close to best players in Europe. Actually this is like a big joke to even discuss it with Euroleague fans.
Is like say "so is Brandon Jennings now the best point guard in NBA"?
Rubio will probably be a great player in the future. For now he is average Euroleague level player and maybe perhaps the second best player in Euroleague at his age. But to put him as best point guard in Euroleague is hilarious and ridiculous thing. There are many point guards much better than him still.
Ok honest talk, who is the first?
I'll give you that he is not the top player in Europe, not close, right now but who is a better prospect than him?
First in this moment for sure better than NBA hero boy Rubio. But this does not mean so much as many European point guards are still much better than Rubio.
Lull is not yet I think among top level point guards in Europe. There is still plenty that are probably better than him. But he is a very good player already. He is young and improving. I like him a lot as a player.
He could be nice player for Rockets on offense if he came to NBA in the future. But I think his defense is weak. But overall he will be fine. The defense in NBA at point guard position is very very poor. The only NBA point guard that is good in defense is Billups. So it really does not even matter since the NBA made the no hand checks rules. Lull is no defense and is very athletic and explosive so no hand checks rules are perfect for him.
In Euroleague defense is very hard and very physical. There would be 5-10 fouls on each time down floor if it was call like NBA game. So the rules will let Llull go wherever he needs on court and his bad defense will not matter. In Europe it matters but not in NBA since no one can guard at point position anyway because of the rules.
LOL
He'll answer Teodosic (who's an excellent player, but has no chance of playing in the NBA).
And there a lot of European fans who think Rubio is already the best PG in Europe. In fact KBP was in the minority in this discussion in an Euroleague message board just a couple of weeks ago.
Rubio is the best PG in Europe and, tbh, it's not even close. People are just slow to catch up with this kind of stuff. The question is if he's already the best European PG.
I say at his same age. I meant 19 years old players playing right now in Euroleague. I did not mean to say he second best prospect. Two different things.
Right now best age 19 Euroleague player is 100% Vesely.
Well I've watched them both and if he says Teodosic is a better PROSPECT, which is what I asked him, I am just leaving the board cause that is plain stupid.
I think Rubio's main thing is just finding more stability, he has one great game after a poor one right now, but as I said before he completely dominated the Spanish Cup and really made an argument there that he might be at the top level of players in Europe. But to me the potential is there to see evertime he touches the ball, he is breathtaking!
I assure you if you take to an European forum a message "Rubio is best point guard in Europe" you will be laughed out of there by any serious fan. It is actually absurd completely absurd and ridiculous to say Rubio is best point guard in Europe. He is not even the best point guard on his own team.
He is the best 19 year old European point guard. NOT the best European point guard. But I do not expect the NBA only fans to know the difference. There is never any facts correct about European players from NBA perspective. But you can go to any Europe forum on basketball you like and see their reactions if you say Rubio is best point guard in Europe. The only people that might agree is a few Spanish homers. Most would just laugh at you.
Navarro is not a PG for Barca, if you watch them play regularly you should know that he spends a wide majorit of the game off the ball and is primarily used as a SG in their system, which is great for him because his main strength is shooting. He never had great PG instincts.
Veseli doesn't even play the same compe ion that Rubio does man. I know he is quite athletic, and he has range, but talk to me when he plays in Greece, Spain, Italy, or at the very least Russia.
This is NBA only fan talking. Until you know all point guards in Europe completely you cannot say who is better than who. But this is what NBA fans do with European players. Only consider someone names by NBA and then watch him. There are point guards not even in Euroleague level in Europe that are better than he is.
If you do not believe me then please do go to a European forum and see for yourself. To say Rubio is best point guard in Europe is pretty much exact the same as to say Johnny Flynn is NBA's best point guard.
You are hopeless. I am done with this thread. I will NOT be ban again here. To any NBA fan that wants real knowledge of European players just please ignore these guys. It is so hilarious and ridiculous to suggest Rubio is best point guard in Europe. This is comedy.
Rockets fans you can ask about Lull in private message. is just impossible to discuss in true manner in this forum anything about European players because of the crazy ideas some NBA fans have and just make it a mission to argue with you about nonsense.
I am not going that far, I am not saying he is right now the best, but he has games and moments even now that takes over a game unlike any other European player. The boy is already a gem and a pleasure to watch. In fact, since you consider us only NBA fan, I worry whether his game will ever translate to the NBA, but I am sure that if he decided to stay in Europe he will be widely acknowledged as the best in less that 2-3 years.
So anyway what are the chances Splitter ends up there? Spurs were counting on him as a sure thing next year.
Welcome back Kill_Bill_Pana. Glad you got another chance, I know it meant a lot to you.
I am not sure. If was my choice I would take Greek center Mavroeidis instead. But I think they want to make news just with someone that his name is talked about a lot. There were many rumors they wanted Scola but now that is silent. It seems for sure he would stay in NBA.
The next center they were to get was Maric but he has a 3 year contract with Partizan so it seems he can't be signed. So if Pekovic really is going to NBA then I guess logical that Splitter is who they would want. I think Mavroeidis is a better choice because he has Greek passport and will not count against foreign player rules and also he will be much cheaper. He can be in the team as the new center for the next 10 years and will not leave.
But even though this is much more logical thing to do, if to sign Splitter it would be more pleasing to the fans and the news media. Because if Pekovic leaves they will be demand a big name to replace him. So I think excellent chance he is in Panathinaikos next year if he is open to offers. 50/50 chance Spurs or Panathinaikos. If he wants just to play in NBA than Panathinaikos would not get in bid war. He is not that good of a player and not worth that. He would already be too much far overpaid with this offer now.
But for Splitter's own interest NBA is always a gamble. Who will know if he will be in Popovich's doghouse? So I think it is a mistake and bad move if PAO takes him for such money but I think there is good chance it might happen.
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