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    hey you weren't complaining when the government was giving you free golf carts!
    He didn't get it for free, it was his tax dollars stimulation the golf cart company. It was a tax write off. He still paid for it.

    A whole lot more fair than earned income credit. Can someone explain to me how those people earn it? Same with the $400 credit for "making work pay."

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    Put some palm trees in…Fresh paint…New service with a smile sign…Sponsor a little league team…Problem solved…
    I like that. If you are well off, sponsor a Little League, Soccer team, something, if you don't already. These things are uplifting to the spirit to help out.

    Just don't sponsor the Boy Scouts unless you want the lefties to hate you.

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    Typical big government.

    People who don't know about business nor run one, what do they do? Go into government.
    or teach rather than work the field they study.

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    Boo- ing-hoo. Have you ever considered that there is a reason behind this? That perhaps its not about you but about other property owners who are doing the wrong thing? Blame the wits out there who are doing the wrong thing which has led to a need for regulation, not the people trying to correct the problem with water quality.
    So it's right to penalize everyone for what a few do wrong?
    Wow! You have to read a rain guage! That'll take you all of 2 minutes to read and record, if that.
    It's the principle. Over extended authoritarian government. At least in my view. One more recorded to be scrutinized over.

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    or teach rather than work the field they study.
    Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder about education?

    Most people who teach either worked directly in their field in the past, or both teach and work at the same time (like me).

    It's hilarious to me that you seem to assume that all teachers don't have a clue what they are talking about.

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    So it's right to penalize everyone for what a few do wrong?

    It's the principle. Over extended authoritarian government. At least in my view. One more recorded to be scrutinized over.
    Right or wrong, that's the way society and law operates. Most people don't murder others, but we still need to regulate murder. Most regulation arises to stop the 1-5% who do the wrong thing, not to advantage the other 95%. Sad but true.

    So, accurate, continuous rainfall records are a bad thing? Come on. The more data we have on natural phenomena, the better our understanding. It sounds like you'd rather we grope around in the dark and make things up as we go.

    For someone who is often rational, you have some very strange irrationalities based on your ideology.

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    Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder about education?

    Most people who teach either worked directly in their field in the past, or both teach and work at the same time (like me).

    It's hilarious to me that you seem to assume that all teachers don't have a clue what they are talking about.
    I see I hit a sore spot. I didn't mean it to be directed at you either.

    It's me. I have a sore spot for academia.

    I didn't mean that as for everyone who teaches. I don't know how it is where you live. It is prominent where I live however that teachers don't know their topics. Get to the university level, and it becomes a haven for ineptness and political agenda. Many get these jobs because they are accredited really well, but cannot do the actual work. They can recite knowledge, but apply it poorly. Others simply stay in a safe job, and get lazy once they get tenure. Don't tell me you don't see that yourself.

    The saying that "those who can do, and those who cannot, teach," didn't come about for no reason.

    As for the agendas, where I live, University of Oregon, Oregon State University, Lewis and Clark College, Portland State University... All leftist driven agenda universities.

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    Right or wrong, that's the way society and law operates. Most people don't murder others, but we still need to regulate murder. Most regulation arises to stop the 1-5% who do the wrong thing, not to advantage the other 95%. Sad but true.
    Laws saying it's wrong to kill don't cost individuals time or money.
    So, accurate, continuous rainfall records are a bad thing? Come on. The more data we have on natural phenomena, the better our understanding. It sounds like you'd rather we grope around in the dark and make things up as we go.
    If it's important to you, then hire a workforce to do it.
    For someone who is often rational, you have some very strange irrationalities based on your ideology.
    I am anti-authoritarian, and conservative. I call myself a conservative libertarian, but there are those who disagree with me being a libertarian.

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    I see I hit a sore spot. I didn't mean it to be directed at you either.

    It's me. I have a sore spot for academia.

    I didn't mean that as for everyone who teaches. I don't know how it is where you live. It is prominent where I live however that teachers don't know their topics. Get to the university level, and it becomes a haven for ineptness and political agenda. Many get these jobs because they are accredited really well, but cannot do the actual work. They can recite knowledge, but apply it poorly. Others simply stay in a safe job, and get lazy once they get tenure. Don't tell me you don't see that yourself.

    The saying that "those who can do, and those who cannot, teach," didn't come about for no reason.

    As for the agendas, where I live, University of Oregon, Oregon State University, Lewis and Clark College, Portland State University... All leftist driven agenda universities.
    Actually, it's really different where I am from. The guys who taught me during my Masters course all had extensive experience in their fields and knew them inside out - a big part of what they taught was how to apply the knowledge in the real world. Also, I teach in what you'd call "community college" and the workplace training sector, and I find the teachers there to mostly be ex-industry professionals who are overworked and underpaid but do the job because they believe in it.

    Might I suggest that you've had a bad experience of education in the past, and that your political ideology is partly blinding you to the fact that there are a lot of good teachers out there. Like every profession, there are poor teachers, but I think they are vastly outweighed by the good one.
    Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 03-11-2010 at 09:34 PM.

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    Laws saying it's wrong to kill don't cost individuals time or money.
    That was just an example - the point is, most regulation, much of which inconveniences or disadvantages people who do the right thing, is implemented because of people who do the wrong thing. That is one of the downsides to the social contract.

    I am anti-authoritarian, and conservative. I call myself a conservative libertarian, but there are those who disagree with me being a libertarian.
    And I'm suggesting that you should try to separate your political ideology from rational discourse. There is no place for politics in discussions of fact or truth.

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    BTW, WC, have a read of this:

    http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010...npersuadables/

    It describes the way in which ideology can obscure evidence, according to psychological studies. Oh, and I'm not trying to pick a fight with you at all, just pointing this stuff out.

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    BTW, WC, have a read of this:

    http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010...npersuadables/

    It describes the way in which ideology can obscure evidence, according to psychological studies. Oh, and I'm not trying to pick a fight with you at all, just pointing this stuff out.
    Good article. I replied here rather than throwing this thread off more than I already have.

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    Considering I have paid more than a million dollars of taxes so far I really don't consider those golf carts to be "free".
    You are so right.

    From another thread, did I understand correctly that you think they are improperly applying the fees? Hopefully you can get it all back. I would be cautions not to piss off any officials in the process unless it's necessary. I have seen instances where government officials have a way of retaliating if they want, and have seen them bankrupt businesses.

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    I guess it's back to being number 2.


    Must suck owning property

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    Boo- ing-hoo. Have you ever considered that there is a reason behind this? That perhaps its not about you but about other property owners who are doing the wrong thing? Blame the wits out there who are doing the wrong thing which has led to a need for regulation, not the people trying to correct the problem with water quality.



    Wow! You have to read a rain guage! That'll take you all of 2 minutes to read and record, if that.

    Actually, since you are a rancher I'm very surprised that you don't do this as a natural part of your day. I thought rainfall would be a major concern for you and you'd want to know everything you can about the amount of rain falling on your property. I'd call that due diligence.
    You are such a knee jerk liberal turd. My point was they can inspect my property and see that it is clearly not a source for storm water pollution. Having one size fits all regulations and requiring new fees/paperwork burdens from non-polluting property owners is not right. I don't care how you try to justify it.

    As for the rain gauge and being a rancher the property in question is commercial property located in downtown San Antonio. I could care less about monitoring rainfall there. Yes, I farm/ranch in a different location and yes, I have a rain gauge there. I never considered it "due diligence"...I just considered it to be common sense which you clearly lack.

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    What a selfish, en led, head.

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    I bust 8' florescent bulbs in the dumpster all the time.

    GGGGG-Unit

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    Perhaps one reason an inspector can't state that you are non-polluting is that it opens the door to corruption. If everyone who meets certain conditions (apparently, owns a parking lot bigger than X or some such) has be cleared, then there is less opportunity for bribery, discrimination, retaliation, etc. It's part of RROS's theme where a small percentage of bad actors creates costs for the good guys.

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    calm down cowboy......and leave the cessna in the hanger.
    God! I feel bad about laughing at this though! Gotta admit it is pretty funny though.

    I'm so going to ...

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