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  1. #176
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    I'm not defensive. I find this thread hilarious. particularly because your entire argument is based off me being a "mavs fan".
    Actually, my entire argument is me being a Spurs fan. But you've been missing the point all along.

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    Then you're an idiot. lol brainwashed by Hitler.

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    7 game series are not merely determined by a miracle shot. The 2004 Spurs were not better than the 2004 Lakers.
    They were the same caliber of team. If Fisher doesn't make that shot, Game 7 is in San Antonio, a game the Spurs were certainly CAPABLE of winning. We don't know for 100% certain how that series would've turned out if Fisher missed, but we do know that San Antonio was CAPABLE of winning that series and a le that year.

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    If the Mavs lose to Denver, LA or Cleveland, it will be because those teams were better, not some intangible "leader" bull .
    That's why you don't know what it takes to win a championship. Intangibles make your team better.

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    Actually, my entire argument is me being a Spurs fan.
    And what sort of intellectual ability does that grant you?

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    7 game series are not merely determined by a miracle shot. The 2004 Spurs were not better than the 2004 Lakers.


    So is that why Fisher's shot went in? Because the Spurs were not capable of winning a le?

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    They were the same caliber of team. If Fisher doesn't make that shot, Game 7 is in San Antonio, a game the Spurs were certainly CAPABLE of winning. We don't know for 100% certain how that series would've turned out if Fisher missed, but we do know that San Antonio was CAPABLE of winning that series and a le that year.
    That series was defined by our inability to make 3 pointers. Which pretty much has decided every series between the Spurs and Lakers since Jackson coached the Lakers.

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    And what sort of intellectual ability does that grant you?

    Since he watched them win 4 rings (even though I watched the 1999, 2003, 2005, and 2007 finals as well) he somehow knows more.

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    Well, in that case, only Cleveland and LA have "a chance" at winning a le. The Denver Nuggets, Orlando Magic and Dallas Mavericks would beg to differ.
    you would be nuts if you think the Mavs have a decent chance this season. Maybe they will get their chance in 2-3 season but it ain't coming so soon as this season IMHO. Those gots are ecstatically pandered to their mirage of being "stacked", totally getting themselves blinded to the truth that they ain't that good as they think. Your backcourt is now sturdy and deep as well as the C, but you have no cover for Dirk which may ineluctably force him to play 43+ mins a game come playoffs, once Dirk is raddled or injured the Mavs are fatefully done.

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    So is that why Fisher's shot went in? Because the Spurs were not capable of winning a le?
    We lost the series in game 6. We had a chance after that shot. They were simply the better team.

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    Well this thread sure has blossomed since I saw it last.

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    No one is saying they have a "decent" chance. The question is whether or not they have a chance. According ElNazi, the Mavs have never been capable of winning a le.

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    And what sort of intellectual ability does that grant you?
    To recognize when a team is championship caliber.

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    No one is saying they have a "decent" chance. The question is whether or not they have a chance. According ElNazi, the Mavs have never been capable of winning a le.
    They haven't. Do you agree?

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    That's why you don't know what it takes to win a championship. Intangibles make your team better.
    Intangibles are abstract qualities that can't be measured, which means we have no way of determining which teams have sufficient quan ies of things like leadership, heart, determination and unselfishness and which teams don't. You can't tell me which teams possess "intangibles" in sufficient quan ies and which teams don't.

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    They haven't. Do you agree?


    No, being capable of winning a le and winning a le are two different things.

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    To recognize when a team is championship caliber.



    Were the Nazis championship caliber when your country gave them a safe haven?

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    Intangibles are abstract qualities that can't be measured, which means we have no way of determining which teams have sufficient quan ies of things like leadership, heart, determination and unselfishness and which teams don't. You can't tell me which teams possess "intangibles" in sufficient quan ies and which teams don't.
    Sure I can. Dallas doesn't have it. Lakers do. Denver, since they signed Chauncey do. Orlando doesn't, but they make up for it with Howard being a beast. Same for Cleveland and Lebron.

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    That series was defined by our inability to make 3 pointers. Which pretty much has decided every series between the Spurs and Lakers since Jackson coached the Lakers.
    The Spurs were one miracle shot from having a Game 7 at home. They were a miracle shot away from being 3-0 at home over the Lakers in that series. So you're telling me that they weren't CAPABLE of winning a home game against the Lakers?

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    We lost the series in game 6. We had a chance after that shot. They were simply the better team.
    Every team has a chance for championship in your opinion. any given team just has to outplay 29 other better teams at most.

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    Sure I can. Dallas doesn't have it. Lakers do. Denver, since they signed Chauncey do. Orlando doesn't, but they make up for it with Howard being a beast. Same for Cleveland and Lebron.
    Prove it. How much of "it" do you need? And when it comes to things like being a late-game manager, basketball IQ, and an alpha dog personality, there's nothing that Chauncey Billups has that Jason Kidd doesn't. Whether that means Denver or Dallas will win a le this season, that has yet to be determined.

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    Were the Nazis championship caliber when your country gave them a safe haven?
    I wouldn't know. I was born after World War II.
    How about you? Was o championship caliber when he was gassing your family?

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    Prove it. How much of "it" do you need?

    Spurfan is the only group who knows what "it" is. We wouldn't understand, we never watched a group of people we've never met win a ring!

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    The Spurs were one miracle shot from having a Game 7 at home. They were a miracle shot away from being 3-0 at home over the Lakers in that series. So you're telling me that they weren't CAPABLE of winning a home game against the Lakers?
    Boxscore says we were not capable.

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    Spurfan is the only group who knows what "it" is. We wouldn't understand, we never watched a group of people we've never met win a ring!
    wait a minute, so if i was a part of a state championship basketball team, does that mean i have "it?"

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