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    great thread

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    Who wants a mustache ride oligarchy's Avatar
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    You've got a lot of gay on your mind brah
    Doesn't change the fact that you're Findog loving got. Why don't post that pic of you two again.

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    Doesn't change the fact that you're Findog loving got. Why don't post that pic of you two again.

    I'd post the videos we make but I don't want to get banned.

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    WOWWWWW I've never seen anyone get so mad that they stuttered while TYPING... LOL this thread is classic, thank you oligarchy, your one of a kind.

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    I'm so angry. I just can't stand it that s are trying to pretend I'm gay. Stop it. Just because you guys keep calling me gay, doesn't mean I want anything to do with your sexualness.

    LOL. I was fat, then a mexican, a virgin, and now I'm gay. You guys got me all twisted up. It's okay, it's all that gay in the brain.

    Stop.. You guys are BuLLIES!

    We all know you're a fat Mexican, I like chubby brown butthole so that's ok. Do you wanna get 2 five buck boxes before we do work like Kobe tonight?

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Chauncey can be an emotional leader all he wants, but his greatest value to that team is that he's an actual PG who can run an offense and doesn't rattle in crunch time. Kidd has those exact same qualities. Now we can dissect the games of Kidd and Billups, and on balance, I'd give a slight edge to Billups as the better player, but I don't see Billups as having a discernable edge in the intangible values as veteran savvy, unselfishness, basketball IQ and alpha dog temperament.
    And that's exactly why you don't know your team cannot possibly win it all.

    And they REALLY can't survive a bad series from Melo. If Billups shoots poorly, he's still running the offense and getting everyone involved and not turning the ball over.
    Sure they can survive a bad series from Melo. It just depends on the opponent. For example, they could beat Portland without Melo. They couldn't without Billups.

    And the Mavericks have as much playoff experience as anybody. They're not going to be playoff virgins like the Zombie Sonics or most members of the Charlotte Bobcats. When it comes to "understanding what playoff basketball is all about" the Nuggets don't have an edge on the Mavericks. No team does. I would say, however, that LA, Cleveland, Denver and Orlando have an edge on the Mavericks when it comes to roster construction as it relates to winning a le.
    That's where you're flat out wrong. Talent-wise, the Mavs are probably just as good as Denver. Since that is somewhat evened out, then intangibles come into play. And Dallas doesn't have them.

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    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    Doesn't change the fact that you're Findog loving got. Why don't post that pic of you two again.
    my pic is in my avatar

    why don't you go ahead and ask fin out so he can publicly reject you?

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    Who wants a mustache ride oligarchy's Avatar
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    Yeah. You because you guys are ing geniuses. The gay coup thinks I'm fat and mexican. Woe is me.

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    my pic is in my avatar

    why don't you go ahead and ask fin out so he can publicly reject you?

    Because he's taken

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    Yes, that's exactly what I am.
    We know who you are. You keep diverting the conversation towards Nazis, obviously you probably had your own experiences in your native Yugoslavia, and maybe you need to seek professional help on the subject.

    Do you think the complete frustration you experience due to your team failing year after year might have contributed to that?

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    Who wants a mustache ride oligarchy's Avatar
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    my pic is in my avatar

    why don't you go ahead and ask fin out so he can publicly reject you?
    Sure it is. You keep saying that, but it doesn't make it true. Why don't you post the pic of you two? I think you two were in front of a lake.

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    It's a shame this thread got derailed just when we were finally having a decent conversation...

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    I think you two were in front of a lake.
    do you want him to:

    take you to the river
    wash you in the water?

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    It's a shame this thread got derailed just when we were finally having a decent conversation...
    the mavs could win, its possible.

    mav fans have modest goals. just beat the spurs is one of them. now that that is taken care of, we can raise a little expectation.

    at least the mavs are compe ive.

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    And that's exactly why you don't know your team cannot possibly win it all.
    What "it" qualities does Billups have that Kidd doesn't? Spell it for me at the risk of being pedantic.


    Sure they can survive a bad series from Melo.
    Yeah, and Cleveland can survive a bad series from LeBron, the Lakers can survive a bad series from Kobe.



    That's where you're flat out wrong. Talent-wise, the Mavs are probably just as good as Denver. Since that is somewhat evened out, then intangibles come into play. And Dallas doesn't have them.
    Jason Kidd has everything Billups does in terms of mental makeup, and the Mavs have more ac ulated playoff experience than Denver. With their leader, Denver got smacked down hard at home in Game 6 to the champs. A bounce of the ball here or there, and the Mavs are 2006 champs without such a leader.

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    It's a shame this thread got derailed just when we were finally having a decent conversation...
    I put oligarchy on ignore about 2 pages back. I suggest you do the same. If I want a detailed critique of sexiness in dudes, there are other places on the internet for that.

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    I put oligarchy on ignore about 2 pages back. I suggest you do the same. If I want a detailed critique of sexiness in dudes, there are other places on the internet for that.


    Have you considered maybe Oligarchy just wanted to pose on your site about men holding old computers? He's probably pissed that he couldn't make it as a computer holding model.

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    Who wants a mustache ride oligarchy's Avatar
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    Have you considered maybe Oligarchy just wanted to pose on your site about men holding old computers? He's probably pissed that he couldn't make it as a computer holding model.
    Yeah I wasn't geeky, bald, gay, mexican, or liked ugly women. They wouldn't accept me.

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    mavs have struggled against the bucks for years, its not that far fetched.

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    What "it" qualities does Billups have that Kidd doesn't? Spell it for me at the risk of being pedantic.
    That's easy. He lacks the killer instinct offensively. You wish Kidd is as aggressive as Chauncey is offensively.




    Yeah, and Cleveland can survive a bad series from LeBron, the Lakers can survive a bad series from Kobe.
    Lol @ you for thinking Melo is as important for his team than both LeBron and Kobe for their respective teams. The Nuggets can survive a series with a healthy team and a struggling Melo. Even if Melo struggles, Nuggets have enough fire power offensively to make up for it. Don't believe me? Go check out how many points Nugz were putting up when Melo was out with his injury. Defensively, Melo doesn't do much, in fact I'm sure the Nuggets are better defensively when he sits, however if he's struggling ofensively then no reason to have him out there with JR more than capable of playing the 3 alongside Aflalo. Of course it's not going to be easy.




    Jason Kidd has everything Billups does in terms of mental makeup, and the Mavs have more ac ulated playoff experience than Denver. With their leader, Denver got smacked down hard at home in Game 6 to the champs. A bounce of the ball here or there, and the Mavs are 2006 champs without such a leader.
    Didn't the Mavs also have more "ac ulated playoff experience" than the Nugz last season as well? That didn't bode so well for them now did it? (Cue the match-up excuse)

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    findog what's up with the men holding tube monitors thing that was pretty weird IMHO

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    At least Bucks have a le

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    What "it" qualities does Billups have that Kidd doesn't? Spell it for me at the risk of being pedantic.
    We can go through this again. No problem.
    Chauncey is the head of the snake in Denver. He's their emotional leader, their catalyst. Unlike Kidd, he's not a role player or second banana to anybody on that team. Furthermore, he's such a good fit on that team, because he is just as good on transition as he is on the half-court game, and Denver has great talent to run either. Kidd is the master of passing, specially in transition. But in the half-court game, he is just another role player. No different than say, Terry. With Jason being probably even more effective career-wise, being he's the better shooter.
    In a nuts , Billups brings leadership to Denver, and a coach on the floor. Something that it's definitely an intangible, and in Denver's case, it really has transformed them. Kidd brings respect and professionalism to the locker room, but not necessarily that kind of leadership, which IMO, in Dallas, is on Dirk's shoulders.

    Yeah, and Cleveland can survive a bad series from LeBron, the Lakers can survive a bad series from Kobe.
    Well, no, it's different. Both Kobe and Lebron are the leaders of their respective teams. Melo is not the leader of Denver.

    Jason Kidd has everything Billups does in terms of mental makeup, and the Mavs have more ac ulated playoff experience than Denver. With their leader, Denver got smacked down hard at home in Game 6 to the champs. A bounce of the ball here or there, and the Mavs are 2006 champs without such a leader.
    Well, we obviously do not agree on this, and that's ok. Miami ended up winning in 6 games, and Dallas paid dearly for not having a leader out there when the pressure mounted from Game 3 onwards. It's no surprise that, to this day, they haven't gone further than the second round since that debacle.
    With Kidd or without him. I agree that the talent on the team improved with the latest trade, but the other teams already had better talent so, if anything, Dallas is merely catching up on that department. None of the new additions, however, give you much in the intangibles department. You're still relying on Dirk being the emotional leader, and Kidd being the second banana alongside Terry.

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    That's easy. He lacks the killer instinct offensively. You wish Kidd is as aggressive as Chauncey is offensively.
    He lacks a reliable mid-range jumper, but at Kidd not having a killer instinct.



    Lol @ you for thinking Melo is as important for his team than both LeBron and Kobe for their respective teams. The Nuggets can survive a series with a healthy team and a struggling Melo. Even if Melo struggles, Nuggets have enough fire power offensively to make up for it. Don't believe me? Go check out how many points Nugz were putting up when Melo was out with his injury. Defensively, Melo doesn't do much, in fact I'm sure the Nuggets are better defensively when he sits, however if he's struggling ofensively then no reason to have him out there with JR more than capable of playing the 3 alongside Aflalo. Of course it's not going to be easy.
    Melo is a well-rounded and complete player now. I don't know about him making an All-Defense team, but he plays and competes on both ends of the floor now. After being dumb and immature, I think he gets it now. My contention is that they can't survive Melo shooting poorly because that's what he does best. If Billups is shooting poorly, he's still taking care of the ball and running the offense and doing an excellent job of managing the game. There's a baseline that is always going to be there with Billups' floor game.




    Didn't the Mavs also have more "ac ulated playoff experience" than the Nugz last season as well? That didn't bode so well for them now did it? (Cue the match-up excuse)
    Yeah, and they lost because Denver had a better team. El Nono says Denver won because they had the mystical "it" that you need to win a le. I think the Nuggets were just better last year, and "it" had nothing to do with it.

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    I put oligarchy on ignore about 2 pages back. I suggest you do the same. If I want a detailed critique of sexiness in dudes, there are other places on the internet for that.
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