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    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/ed...n/13texas.html

    Even the course on World History did not escape the board’s scalpel.

    Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict cons utionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among the conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”)

    “The Enlightenment was not the only philosophy on which these revolutions were based,” Ms. Dunbar said.

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    Then again, he sliced and diced the Bible, so there are a few reasons for that crew to hate TJ.

    Still, what "conservative" dislikes Jefferson?

    MFer.

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    This is appalling.

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    “I reject the notion by the left of a cons utional separation of church and state,” said David Bradley, a conservative from Beaumont who works in real estate. “I have $1,000 for the charity of your choice if you can find it in the Cons ution.”

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    What's more, given the size of the Texas state orders for textbooks, the influence of these people extends far beyond our own students in this state.

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    "Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict cons utionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs..."

    I like how the myth of our country teaches us pilgrims came to this land to escape religious persecution, then the country ends up being run by Christian beliefs...what just happened to being cool with each other because it's natural to be nice to each other? ing stupid "conservatives" wouldn't know what conservative meant if it bit them in ass.

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    “I reject the notion by the left of a cons utional separation of church and state,” said David Bradley, a conservative from Beaumont who works in real estate. “I have $1,000 for the charity of your choice if you can find it in the Cons ution.”
    So, the first amendment to the cons ution is not a part of the cons ution?

    Is it not an as amended do ent?

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    American public education is truly about what to think (and how to heel to your boss and political overlords) than it is about how to think and learn. Then again, education truly occurs only by yourself and in spite of those who believe they have things figured out for you.

    Naturally educational policy is shaped by those with an ax to grind and the truly nutty, on both political "sides" in these United States.

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    This is appalling.

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    Another of my favorites: "There were no historians, sociologists or economists consulted at the meetings..."

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    Another of my favorites: "There were no historians, sociologists or economists consulted at the meetings..."
    Are there usually historians, sociologists or economists consulted during these deliberations? There should be, but if there's no precedent, it doesn't mean much.

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    Are there usually historians, sociologists or economists consulted during these deliberations? There should be, but if there's no precedent, it doesn't mean much.
    If the Board members are setting themselves up as 'experts' and overriding the recommendations of educators, then it would seem like a nice touch to have some recognized experts address the issues in front of them.

    God knows you find economists on any side of any issue, as well as hisatorians and sociologists. So why couldn't they just bring some in?

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    What's most appalling is that there is a state apparatus certain groups seek to control because of its influence in shaping individual thought. It's not education, but rather a tool of indoctrination. To which agenda will the factory school fine tune its product?

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    there will be a chapter on obama's birth certificate

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    This story makes me think of the last few minutes to the move Thank You For Smoking where Senator Finistirre is talking about "improving history".

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    Are there usually historians, sociologists or economists consulted during these deliberations? There should be, but if there's no precedent, it doesn't mean much.
    Authorities in equivalent disciplines appeared before the board to defend scientific principles when the biology books were being chosen, but they weren't asked to consult.

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    This is not an example of conservatism.

    I consider myself more conservative than not. This is not conservatism. This is far-right-wing social and religious radicalism. Pure and simple.

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    Thankfully, Dunbar did not get re-elected to the board. Now she can fade back into some kinda bizarre obscurity again. What a nutbar.

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    This is not an example of conservatism.

    I consider myself more conservative than not. This is not conservatism. This is far-right-wing social and religious radicalism. Pure and simple.
    + ing 10

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    a chapter about how the entire history of the universe goes back 4000 years, and how dinosaurs roamed the earth with mankind

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    militant, intolerant, racist "Christian" jihadists dragging TX education even further behind the rest of the country.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 03-12-2010 at 05:49 PM.

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    militant, intolerant, racist "Christian" jihadists dragging TX eduction even further behind the rest of the country.
    Nothing more refreshing than a nice, cold glass of irony.



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    Nothing more refreshing than a nice, cold glass of irony.


    trash talkin typos, are we? GFY

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    trash talkin typos, are we? GFY
    Oh, roll with it you pussy. It was funny. , I pwn myself 10 times before breakfast. Go rent a sense of humor, will ya?

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    good, hopefully this blows up in their face as kids suddenly give a about what is censored from them

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