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Nobody is hating on Ariza.
Just some idiots like to speak all the nonsenses in the world. Ariza is a better shooter from downtown than Artest? GTFO.
Laker fans hating on Ariza are es. He was a big part of the lakers championship run, I don;t care if he goes to shoot 30% for the rest of his career, he was there when he counted. We're yet to see if Artest can perform the same for us.
Nobody is hating on Ariza.
Just some idiots like to speak all the nonsenses in the world. Ariza is a better shooter from downtown than Artest? GTFO.
knobler creating a second account to support himself. Pathetic.
Knobler, Ariza's 3PT% or production jumped as soon as he was inserted in the starting lineup after Radmanovic was traded. Your compelling argument was comparing Ariza's full regular season 3FG % to Artest this year which is idiotic considering Ariza's production jumped steadily as soon as he played with the starting rotation of Gasol and Kobe. Ariza shot a blazing 47% beyond the arc in 23 playoff games. Something Artest never did in his career. Ariza was hot when it mattered. In the playoffs. Playoffs>regular season stats. Thanks for playing.
In order for J-Rich to have a big night he needs to get the ball on the block. Unfortunately, J-Rich posting someone up doesn't get Nash assists, so it didn't happen.
Wishful thinking but unrealistic to think Nash would leave his ego at the door. I hope he had fun dominating the ball and turning the ball over constantly while the fans who pay his salary had to deal with a bunch of noisy LA fans.
Well, we saw a team that had a horrible defensive gameplan that involved letting Nash roam around like an idiot leaving Fisher wide open, barely used the bench and didn't do anything other than pick and rolls. Oops, so much for all the re ed talk about the Suns becoming a better defensive team. As long as Nash is here, the Suns will always be the majorly flawed team that can't win the big game against a real contender unless they happen to be shooting extremely well.
I thought DoK was TheMACHINE with all that Sasha .
Son I feel bad for you. That sig/avatar is cruel and unusual punishment.
I could care less about the sig and avatar. At least Sasha Vujacic would be able to hold Derek Fisher below 15 points.
Ya that Nash defense made Fisher look almost useful. And it made my pregame analysis/reverse jinx look pretty bad.
What I saw tonight:
-Amare dominated early, so the Lakers keyed in on him defensively in the 2nd half
-This gave the Suns' guards several opportunities to score from long range, which they failed at
-Nash was garbage
-Robin Lopez was an abject failure at both ends. 0 rebounds in 18 minutes. Not going to beat the Lakers if Bynum rapes you like that
Amare continues to impress me. He's putting up big numbers in big games and getting no help from Nash.
Obviously I agree with all of that, but in fairness to Lopez, Gentry set him up to fail last night. His job should have been to guard Bynum and grab rebounds. That's it. Bynum has probably 40 pounds on Lopez, keeping Bynum away from the basket would have presented problems regardless, Gentry decided to compound those problems with this bull defense that let the guards run around and do whatever they want while the 2 big men on the court were responsible for guarding 5 players.
Gentry hasn't given Lopez or Dragic enough minutes against playoff teams so games like this that have more intensity and are more compe iveness they're not used to.
Last edited by DUNCANownsKOBE2; 03-13-2010 at 03:08 PM.
Funny coming from you Harlem/Chris/Miami. I have one account. I have never posted here under a different sign on. Ever.
knobler creating a second account to support himself. Pathetic.
What is pathetic is that you simply cannot admit defeat even when it is laid out right in front of you. You are the epitome of a moron. Keep it coming... and I'll keep showing you up. It's fun and amusing seeing how far you will stoop.
What amazes me about Amare is his touch around the basket. He throws up stuff that I cringe at and it always seems to go in. I'll guarantee you one thing. That man speends a lot of off time in the gym putting up shots in the paint.
Who's hating on Ariza? I loved Ariza. I wish we still had him. I very much acknowledged that he was a fuge part of the championship. But facts are facts and Artes is a better 3 point shooter. You cannot argue that. Well Chris can with his convoluted logic and misdirection but he's an idiot.
You are 100% correct though. Ariza was there when it counted. He got hot, a streak he has never had before or since, and it was PERFECT timing for the Lakers and us. I personally dont care if Artes scores 2 or 20. He's here for one reason only and that is D. And the Lakers are a much better defensive team this year.
I hate to say it but you're right about the excuse making. At the Suns board I post at it seems the officials were responsible for Bynum and Pau having point blank shots and Fisher and Artest being left open constantly. Pathetic.
WRONG AGAIN dufus. Ariza shot 32-103 (.310) prior to the trade. He shot 29-91 (.318) post trade. He got hot in the playoffs and shot 40-84 (.476). This season he is shooting 103-121 (.321) which is norm for his career. He simply got hot at the right time and shot a % he has never before or since.Knobler, Ariza's 3PT% or production jumped as soon as he was inserted in the starting lineup after Radmanovic was traded. Your compelling argument was comparing Ariza's full regular season 3FG % to Artest this year which is idiotic considering Ariza's production jumped steadily as soon as he played with the starting rotation of Gasol and Kobe. Ariza shot a blazing 47% beyond the arc in 23 playoff games. Something Artest never did in his career. Ariza was hot when it mattered. In the playoffs. Playoffs>regular season stats. Thanks for playing.
My compelling argument to say Artest is a better 3 point shooter is to take thier entire career numbers. I simply showed bostonguy that Artest actually is shooting better from the arc this year over Ariza and that over their careers Artest wins this battle. You had issues with that and in your infinite wisdom called me out with this:
So I did... and you were WRONG AGAIN. And now you do a complete 180 and say my argument of supplying you the numbers YOU ASKED FOR... is idiotic.
His numbers did not jump as soon as he was inserted in the lineup regardless or you revisionist history and the numbers prove it.
CLASSIC!!!! This just gets better and better.
I'd say like you, thanks for playing... but you were never really in the game.
Last edited by cobbler; 03-13-2010 at 04:08 PM.
I don't know about all Suns fans because obviously you and Xylus seem to have level heads when critiquing your team. But the Suns board I posted at for awhile it was daily excuses. They never lost a game that wasn't the result of some outdside forces.
A confident Bynum > Pau
A confident Artest >>> Ariza
Artest hit a few big shots yesterday but I see one problem with him. He thinks too much on offense..Everytime he's wide open he doesnt know if he should shoot it or pass it off so he stalls a lot & misses. Somebody needs to let him know hes the most consistent three pt shooter on the team haha. I think hes scared of Kobe lmao.
He's just overthinking. It's obvious. He gets the pass and you can see the hesitation. He eventually goes where he's supposed to but that second or two of thought allows defenses to rotate. Sooner or later it will be instinctive. He does scare me though with his dribble penetration. Its just sooooooo ugly. And anyone who would say Ariza is a better player than Artest simply doesn't know basketball. Granted, Trevor is young and has plenty of time to change that but as of this time, Artest is superior to Ariza on many levels.
Playoff numbers>regular season stats.WRONG AGAIN dufus. Ariza shot 32-103 (.310) prior to the trade. He shot 29-91 (.318) post trade. He got hot in the playoffs and shot 40-84 (.476). This season he is shooting 103-121 (.321) which is norm for his career. He simply got hot at the right time and shot a % he has never before or since.
My compelling argument to say Artest is a better 3 point shooter is to take thier entire career numbers. I simply showed bostonguy that Artest actually is shooting better from the arc this year over Ariza and that over their careers Artest wins this battle. You had issues with that and in your infinite wisdom called me out with this:
So I did... and you were WRONG AGAIN. And now you do a complete 180 and say my argument of supplying you the numbers YOU ASKED FOR... is idiotic.
His numbers did not jump as soon as he was inserted in the lineup regardless or you revisionist history and the numbers prove it.
CLASSIC!!!! This just gets better and better.
I'd say like you, thanks for playing... but you were never really in the game.
Funny how Kome fans always say this when they are discrediting Lebron's greatness now for some reason Artest and his 38% 3FG> Ariza's 47% 3FG in 23 games. Good gried you are denser than a bottle.
38%>47%Funny coming from you Harlem/Chris/Miami. I have one account. I have never posted here under a different sign on. Ever.
What is pathetic is that you simply cannot admit defeat even when it is laid out right in front of you. You are the epitome of a moron. Keep it coming... and I'll keep showing you up. It's fun and amusing seeing how far you will stoop.
Cobbler, March 12 2010.
Again.... you made comments about how Ariza numbers began to rise as soon as he got in the starting lineup. And AGAIN, I showed you CLEARLY that they didn't. The original argument had nothing to so with playoffs vs regular season vs overall %. You just keep changing your tune when I show you up for the fool you are. Please show me where I said 38% > 47%. You cannot.Playoff numbers>regular season stats.
Funny how Kome fans always say this when they are discrediting Lebron's greatness now for some reason Artest and his 38% 3FG> Ariza's 47% 3FG in 23 games. Good gried you are denser than a bottle.
Really, you should let it go... you are looking beyond re ed. Then again, pretty much everyone here knows that already. Your reputation as a moron is very well deserved. You wear it well.
38%>47%
Regular season>Playoffs
Knobler, March 12, 2010
Now your quoting yourself?38%>47%
Regular season>Playoffs
Knobler, March 12, 2010
You are truly hillarious. Well, in a re ed kind of way. I have had enough fun at your expense for a weekend. Take your obsession elswhere as I am done responding to your idiocy for now. I'll be sure to show up and point out your lies and BS in the future though... count on it.
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