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definitely he will be used off the bench until he turns 100% fit. Maybe this season TL won't get any more chance to make the starting lineups but I'm sure the starting PG will still be him next season and in many more seasons to come.
So let's say that this current starting lineup continues to play well and gels nicely...and the Spurs wind up in decent position heading into the playoffs. Parker will not be back until the first series or maybe just a game or two before. Would it be better to keep the current starting lineup and bring Parker off the bench? He could provide a scoring punch with the second unit and the starting lineup that has played so well could stay together.
Thoughts?
For the record, this is not Parker hate thread or part of the "trade Parker, Hill should take over" campaign. Just thinking outside the box a little.
definitely he will be used off the bench until he turns 100% fit. Maybe this season TL won't get any more chance to make the starting lineups but I'm sure the starting PG will still be him next season and in many more seasons to come.
yes never thought id say it but spurs play better without parker
this was painful to read..
But I think we should use him off the bench at least initially, and try using him off the bench.. either way we need manu out there with RJ whether it's off the bench or in the starting lineup
But this is definitely still a Tony PG team..
But personally I don't think TL should come as a starting PG even when he's fully recovered. Dude plays more like a shooting guard more often than not and basically lacks the play-making skills that are always supposed to be some default equipment with a typical PG, which attributes to the disorder of team offense sometimes. Jefferson should be a productive player with a PG whose mind is assist orientated, like Kidd and Sessions he used to play with, but now the BEST PG spurs have is TL who has know business how to assist his mates. During their glorious years it was either Barry or Manù that ran and organized the offense despite they were listed as shooting guards. Now with Barry retired and Manù nearly done the Spurs have basically none of such play-making guards on roster IMHO.
it is obvious that gino gels well with everyone, because he is our playmaker. from that perspective, he is our nash. that is why rj plays so well with gino. moreover, we know that tp is a great pg, but not pass-first or not a great playmaker.
since tp will not be 100% in the first round of play-offs, i would argue that he should come from the bench. word.
with another PG playing more team-play in place of Parker the whole team seems re-invigorated especially RDJ who has been suffering alot from TL's self orientated offense. Spurs lost a powerful weapon with TL sidelined but played better team ball which pretty well made up for TL's absence IMHO.
Interesting note Sean just mentioned, spurs playing the best defense of the year since Parker went out
i disagree with the notion of this being tonys team, in no way does it seem like that! i think bringing tony off the bench is a good idea, until he is moving well and attacking the rim. now if george is flatout sucking in the playoffs well of course make tony start. i think hill is going to step up bigtime during the playoffs
It's certainly improper to call TL a team cancer though. TL just plays the game he's used to and it's just impossible for him to revert his style at such an age. Unlike Stephen Marbury kind of guys who harm the atmosphere in locker room, TL is an awesome guy to use as a change of style that could possibly help his team turn around the game from siege/deficit but he is just not some guy who can make his teammates play better than they really are. During the old years the inchoate TL was more often directed and tutored by the older members but now he's absolutely a veteran on this team. TL has fledged but proved not someone capable of carrying the team himself.
I like the idea of TP juicing up the bench's offense, but if he he does RJ will need to go to the starting lineup. Probably would do Blair good to only be on the floor when Manu is on the floor.
Sounds like a good idea but I doubt Tony's ego will allow it.
Yeah...I was going under assumption that the Spurs would stay with the current starting lineup.
You basically don't want a Jameer Nelson situation and if the team is playing great then I would bring Tony off the bench for a while until he gets back into form. When he is in form then you can start him. The bottom line though is that if the Spurs are playing great do you risk another Jameer Nelson type situation, then again it also might be better for TP to start as you don't know how the new guys will react in the playoffs.
It's a tough call.
it's pretty much a choice between TL and the rest IMHO. RDJ plays way better with 4 teammates excluding TL and probably RDJ isn't the only guy who has struggled adapting to TL's game. when TL is on 100% form he should be started at a considerable deduction of RDJ's efficiency, while benching him is clearly a better option if he's only half of himself. TL just shouldn't be played too much along RDJ and other guys alike.
Plus it's just impractical to expect TL to play more team orientated like Jason Kidd, Chauncy Billups etc. Kidd and Chauncy and guys like them are capable of both styles of play- assisting teammates or scoring themselves but TL never got the other dimension.
im not against it but i doubt it would happen.
last two games was against wolves and clippers
lets see what they do against better teams
the o was terrible against cavs especially all of 4
Starting is not the 4th quarter.
One thing is for sure, seeing Hill push the ball on every possession (even into a half court set) and willingness to give up the ball on a stalled play is a good contrast to Parker's 'walk the ball up the court' and 'hold the ball for 15 seconds of the shot clock' kind of style. When our team is scored on Parker tends to slowly walk the ball up into a set (allowing defenses to get set), and tries to pick and roll until it either works or doesn't work. How many times have we seen a play crumble, and Parker goes for a midrange jumper? (a shot that he can hit, but ball-movement is more important with the depth we have) Would rather the Spurs win as a team, than live and die by Parkers production.
running a set play is bad?
pop is trying to run more
he should tell tp to run more it is working
tp walks up slow because he is told to
It's not a matter of running a set play. It's a matter of playing with urgency while at the same time involving the team. I don't think Parker has done enough of that this season (most likely due to injuries/PF). One of the fastest players in the game playing somewhat slow, doesn't help our team IMO. I'm not saying he needs to play reckless or even change his game entirely, it's just nice to watch Hill actually push the tempo.
pop knows without tp they have to push it to win
with the way this team playing atm without parker, his expendable
yeah losing to the cavs without shaq,jamison most of the night james without tp
is alright?
trading tp for a real point guard or a real big to help duncan
spurs have already said they do not think hill is a point guard
this team is playing well because it a vet team and they are trying to turn it on
it is middle of march
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