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    The thread le should have told you. Perhaps you should follow your own suggestion about reading comprehension.
    haha

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    Popovich never has tried to bring attention to himself as some kind of "Genius". Last time I checked, he stated (this is a quote) "We were fortunate to get Tim Duncan and not screw it up".

    This roster has not come together yet, but I think Coach Pop is trying to get it working and get some kind of roll going.

    Is it Pop's fault that Tim is a year older, Manu took a long time to get in synch, and TP has had health problems all year long?

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    So are we talking about team rebounding or Malik Hairston?

    Get a ing life already.
    Get a life?

    You're still such a immature condescending . But please, indulge me some more.

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    And a coach can really make himself look bad when he starts thinking he's a genius and plays guys out of position or refuses to let young players get enough minutes to play their way out of common mistakes.
    I doubt Pop cares a whole lot about looking bad. Pop will always prefer veterans over younger players. His 4 champioship teams were mostly made up on veterans. But this year, Hill, and Blair seem to get to be getting playing time. Looks like Hairston is starting to earn more playing time. Hes not too old is he? But since Pop doesn't see what you see in Mahimni, hes an idiot right? An idiot whose won 4 championships, and how many consecutive years have the Spurs made the playoffs under Pop? 12, 13? Seems like Pop has had a pretty good run as a NBA coach, despite being an idiot. Maybe he even might be a genius as you claim because, although hes an idiot, his teams still seam to play pretty well. To have teams that consistanly perform at a high level, despite their idiot coach, is pure genius IMO.

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    Popovich never has tried to bring attention to himself as some kind of "Genius". Last time I checked, he stated (this is a quote) "We were fortunate to get Tim Duncan and not screw it up".

    This roster has not come together yet, but I think Coach Pop is trying to get it working and get some kind of roll going.

    Is it Pop's fault that Tim is a year older, Manu took a long time to get in synch, and TP has had health problems all year long?
    No, but it's his fault that Bogans was the "centerpiece" of a mediocre defense, and it's his fault that Richard Jefferson spent more time at center most of the season than the two centers that were on the roster at the end of training camp.

    Seriously, if you guys can't see how much the coach is flailing when he makes these confident statements about what the team is going to do for the rest of the season, only to see him go away from that statement a few days later, I'm not sure how to convince you. Did you actually read the "centerpiece" statement?

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    I doubt Pop cares a whole lot about looking bad. Pop will always prefer veterans over younger players. His 4 champioship teams were mostly made up on veterans. But this year, Hill, and Blair seem to get to be getting playing time. Looks like Hairston is starting to earn more playing time. Hes not too old is he? But since Pop doesn't see what you see in Mahimni, hes an idiot right? An idiot whose won 4 championships, and how many consecutive years have the Spurs made the playoffs under Pop? 12, 13? Seems like Pop has had a pretty good run as a NBA coach, despite being an idiot. Maybe he even might be a genius as you claim because, although hes an idiot, his teams still seam to play pretty well. To have teams that consistanly perform at a high level, despite their idiot coach, is pure genius IMO.
    So we're now ignoring the fact that I've been saying since September that Hairston is better than Bogans and should be getting playing time, we're now ignoring that I've been saying since September that Matt Bonner can be a great role player for this team if he's not being forced to defend starting NBA frontcourts, we're now ignoring the fact that I said Theo Ratliff could start and contribute with his interior defense.

    I accused Pop of playing Bogans too much because he thinks Bogans is Bruce Bowen 2.0, and Pop basically came out and said exactly that. What part of Bogans' play has supported the minutes he's gotten this season? Pop can't seem to justify getting the guy minutes at this point despite the fact that Roger Mason has stunk most of the season. That it's taken the coach most of the season and a historical number of starting lineups to come upon success with solutions that a lot of fans have been pointing out for months does nothing to lessen the "idiot" accusation.

    What are you going to say if Mahinmi cracks the rotation in the next few weeks? You're pretty quickly running out of high ground, here. Make sure not to abandon the high horse you're on.

    For an NBA coach, the difference between idiot and genius lies in small decisions, or between the decisions of 2006 and 2007. Pop is pretty steadily working his way back toward genius again as he rellies less on terrible players and microscopic lineups and starts implementing the changes many of us have suggested all year long. I'll be right there waving the for Pop if the bigger lineups continue and Bogans continues to transition to the 12th or 13th man on the rotation.

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    So we're now ignoring the fact that I've been saying since September that Hairston is better than Bogans and should be getting playing time, we're now ignoring that I've been saying since September that Matt Bonner can be a great role player for this team if he's not being forced to defend starting NBA frontcourts, we're now ignoring the fact that I said Theo Ratliff could start and contribute with his interior defense.

    I accused Pop of playing Bogans too much because he thinks Bogans is Bruce Bowen 2.0, and Pop basically came out and said exactly that. What part of Bogans' play has supported the minutes he's gotten this season? Pop can't seem to justify getting the guy minutes at this point despite the fact that Roger Mason has stunk most of the season. That it's taken the coach most of the season and a historical number of starting lineups to come upon success with solutions that a lot of fans have been pointing out for months does nothing to lessen the "idiot" accusation.

    What are you going to say if Mahinmi cracks the rotation in the next few weeks? You're pretty quickly running out of high ground, here. Make sure not to abandon the high horse you're on.

    For an NBA coach, the difference between idiot and genius lies in small decisions, or between the decisions of 2006 and 2007. Pop is pretty steadily working his way back toward genius again as he rellies less on terrible players and microscopic lineups and starts implementing the changes many of us have suggested all year long. I'll be right there waving the for Pop if the bigger lineups continue and Bogans continues to transition to the 12th or 13th man on the rotation.
    So basically your bandwagon fan of Pop. How conveinent. If the Spurs implode this season, you can always tell us that you thought all along Pop was an idiot. And if the Spurs make a run in the playoffs and have a great season, you can just switch back and say that Pop is one of the best coaches in the NBA.

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    What are you going to say if Mahinmi cracks the rotation in the next few weeks?
    Oh , there goes the season, better luck next year.

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    So basically your bandwagon fan of Pop. How conveinent. If the Spurs implode this season, you can always tell us that you thought all along Pop was an idiot. And if the Spurs make a run in the playoffs and have a great season, you can just switch back and say that Pop is one of the best coaches in the NBA.
    If it makes you feel better to say that, it's pretty clear from your track record that no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change your mind. I'm not sure at which point you think I was no longer rooting for the Spurs, which would indicate some sort of bandwagon mentality, although I've never personally rooted for a coach, particularly not the way you seem to.

    I said quite clearly that the difference between an idiot coach and a genius coach is small decisions that they make every day. Sometimes teams win despite the idiocy of their coach, and sometimes they lose despite the smart decisions the coach makes. In some cases, team performance can provide evidence that a decision by the coach was good or bad. I'm rooting for the Spurs no matter what, so I'd quite prefer that the coach make good decisions that help the team improve.

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    Oh , there goes the season, better luck next year.
    So basically, by your own logic, you're a bandwagon fan. How convenient.

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    So basically, by your own logic, you're a bandwagon fan. How convenient.
    Nope. I've been a Spurs fans since 1975. Whether their bad, or good, I'm always a Spurs fan. Always will be and the Spurs are the only NBA team I root for.

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    If it makes you feel better to say that, it's pretty clear from your track record that no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change your mind. I'm not sure at which point you think I was no longer rooting for the Spurs, which would indicate some sort of bandwagon mentality, although I've never personally rooted for a coach, particularly not the way you seem to.

    I said quite clearly that the difference between an idiot coach and a genius coach is small decisions that they make every day. Sometimes teams win despite the idiocy of their coach, and sometimes they lose despite the smart decisions the coach makes. In some cases, team performance can provide evidence that a decision by the coach was good or bad. I'm rooting for the Spurs no matter what, so I'd quite prefer that the coach make good decisions that help the team improve.
    You sure like to assume alot. When did I say you're not a Spurs fans?

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    You sure like to assume alot. When did I say you're not a Spurs fans?
    When you said that I'm a bandwagon fan of the coach. As I said, I don't root for coaches. I could give a about the coach unless he's doing something stupid like starting Keith Bogans or putting Richard Jefferson as the center to defend Amare Stoudemire. As soon as he stops doing that, I'm perfectly content to stop criticizing him.

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    So basically your bandwagon fan of Pop. How conveinent. If the Spurs implode this season, you can always tell us that you thought all along Pop was an idiot. And if the Spurs make a run in the playoffs and have a great season, you can just switch back and say that Pop is one of the best coaches in the NBA.
    wrong.
    i am a fan of, and give most credit to, the great tim duncan and manu ginobili, and give them credit for our les along with the invaluable play of key masters like tony parker, bruce bowen and robert horry.

    with such Quality players it doesnt take an 'all time great coach' to excell (Pop has 'jokingly' said the same thing over the years, most recently saying if he doesnt succeed with this years roster he should be fired LOL'),
    furthermore an 'all-time great coach' would not have sat hill for the 2nd half of last year and the playoffs until ti was to late, would not have discarded young energetic talent infavor of keeping useless dinosaurs on the roster, would not have made matt Bonner and Bogans 'centerpieces' of our team, starting them and playing them big minutes while superior players sit and watch from the bench, would not have traded a true shotblocking defensive center for NOTHING, the list goes on and on.

    it was Pop(and he has admitted as much) riding the coattails of the great Duncan and the unique, invaluable play of such guys as manu and horry, not the other way around.

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    wrong.
    i am a fan of, and give most credit to, the great tim duncan and manu ginobili, and give them credit for our les along with the invaluable play of key masters like tony parker, bruce bowen and robert horry.

    with such Quality players it doesnt take an 'all time great coach' to excell (Pop has 'jokingly' said the same thing over the years, most recently saying if he doesnt succeed with this years roster he should be fired LOL'),
    furthermore an 'all-time great coach' would not have sat hill for the 2nd half of last year and the playoffs until ti was to late, would not have discarded young energetic talent infavor of keeping useless dinosaurs on the roster, would not have made matt Bonner and Bogans 'centerpieces' of our team, starting them and playing them big minutes while superior players sit and watch from the bench, would not have traded a true shotblocking defensive center for NOTHING, the list goes on and on.

    it was Pop(and he has admitted as much) riding the coattails of the great Duncan and the unique, invaluable play of such guys as manu and horry, not the other way around.
    Gee, it takes great players to win. Wow, who knew? And I thought Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, and others were the reason their teams won championships.

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    Gee, it takes great players to win. Wow, who knew? And I thought Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, and others were the reason their teams won championships.
    you said critics of Pop would jump on Pop's bandwagon if we started winning.
    i said we never assigned credit to Pop for our les but rather the players we had at the time- and now that we started with an extremely promising lineup but was hijacked by the stupid decisions/rotations/starting-lineups/'trades'/ giveaways/ random benchings by Pop that he is to blame for this team's monumental Underachieveing.

    if you cant see this then you are a blind, stubborn homer.

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    you said critics of Pop would jump on Pop's bandwagon if we started winning.
    i said we never assigned credit to Pop for our les but rather the players we had at the time- and now that we started with an extremely promising lineup but was hijacked by the stupid decisions/rotations/starting-lineups/'trades'/ giveaways/ random benchings by Pop that he is to blame for this team's monumental Underachieveing.

    if you cant see this then you are a blind, stubborn homer.
    Ah, Poopy pants I was having a one on one debate with Obstructed View, not you. So your 2 cents is not needed in this one buddy.

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    Will Pop continue to play Hairston at this rate toward the end of the season?
    Will Hairston surpass Mason in the rotation?
    Will Hairston's development cause him to make the playoff roster?

    Tune in next time for the "The Old, the Young, the Restless and the Beautiful"

    1. I think we are seeing Pop getting closer finalizing the playoff rotation. I think Malik is in.
    2. I think Hairston already has supassed Mason in rotation. He has been entering recent games quicker.
    3. Yes.

    Wishful, yet somewhat factual thinking.

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    1. I think we are seeing Pop getting closer finalizing the playoff rotation. I think Malik is in.
    2. I think Hairston already has supassed Mason in rotation. He has been entering recent games quicker.
    3. Yes.

    Wishful, yet somewhat factual thinking.
    I think Pop will go with the hot hand in the playoffs, be that Mason, or Hairston. Hairston definitely has played is way into the rotation IMO, but will Pop trust him enough to play him is the burning question?

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    Didn't like how Pop put Hairston in for 4 sec then took him back out, probably to do his typical let me yell at a players for making a mistake then putting said player back in. Hairston deserves more minutes the way he has been playing lately, and the last 3 games Pop has put him in at the beginning of the 2nd quarter, that didn't continue tonight against the Heat

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    this is what happens when Pop doesn't use the same rotations as the previous games, Hairston should have gotten some minutes at the beginning of the 2nd quarter like he did in the previous 2

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    Pop has been shooting himself in the foot against .500 teams all year long.

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    of course the biggest problem tonight with the rotations is that Bogans was playing well, damn "centerpiece" had to play well, ruined everything

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    Ah, Poopy pants I was having a one on one debate with Obstructed View, not you. So your 2 cents is not needed in this one buddy.
    Yeah, he's kicking your ass pretty good. Implying that he's somehow not allowed to be involved in the discussion is probably your best bet.

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