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    hey gobbler...

    the only bull spewed was yours...

    the article was not misinterpreted...the media is trying to spin kobe NOT responding to Gasol as if this was some cerebral, mature tactic on kobe's part...

    the FACTS are that---WHO the is kobe...to be admonishing teammates or imposing his will on his teammates...

    if the media had any balls or objectivity...they would call a spade a spade---instead of all this bull coddling of so called superstars...

    at the end of the day its YOU laker fans that are the suckers...

    HAD kobe been a good teammate and/or decent human---he---TOGETHER ---with shaq---would have had ADDITIONAL les...

    had the media called it as what it was---two ing drama queens who should have BOTH shut the up---played ball---respected their fans and coach...

    then maybe both kobe and shaq would have been far more respected NBA-WIDE...
    silly hater is mad that his team sucks ass.

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    the only bull spewed was yours...
    Please show me where I said anything untrue.

    the article was not misinterpreted...the media is trying to spin kobe NOT responding to Gasol as if this was some cerebral, mature tactic on kobe's part...
    The media was pointing out that he had matured enough to realize that Gasol is a HUGE key to the Lakers chances of repeating and responding to his comments he made to the MEDIA would only fuel another Shaq type scenario. It's called growing up. Later in this post you admonish Shaq and Kobe and say they just should have shut up and played. And now you admonish Kobe for doing just that. You seem confused.

    the FACTS are that---WHO the is kobe...to be admonishing teammates or imposing his will on his teammates...
    The undisputed leader of the Lakers. It's his team. You haters are the very people that do not give him any credit for the 3 peat years because he wasn't the # 1 guy on the team. Now that he is the tune changes? You are shocked that players admonish other players in a team sport? Tsk Tsk.

    if the media had any balls or objectivity...they would call a spade a spade---instead of all this bull coddling of so called superstars...
    What did he call wrong in the article? Sounded pretty factual to me.

    at the end of the day its YOU laker fans that are the suckers...


    HAD kobe been a good teammate and/or decent human---he---TOGETHER ---with shaq---would have had ADDITIONAL les...
    You have proof of this? Of course not. It's just your silly opinion based on... well, nothing. They hadn't won in 2 years prior to the split.

    had the media called it as what it was---two ing drama queens who should have BOTH shut the up---played ball---respected their fans and coach...
    Yeah, we fans felt so disrespected as we were parading down Figueroa street.

    then maybe both kobe and shaq would have been far more respected NBA-WIDE...
    Hmmmmmm, I think you would be hard pressed to find two players that command more respect in the NBA community. They are icons of the game. That you don't think so is irrelevent.
    Last edited by cobbler; 03-16-2010 at 03:34 AM.

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    Read that bold part again, genius
    Haha namlook is ing re ed.

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    I can't wait to see how you Laker fans will spin all this when your boys lose in the playoffs this year. All that talent, and one guy will take them down by himself.

    If practically every guy on your team, as well as a caoch who has won ten les, says that one guy is playing selfishly and shooting too many shots...then he is.

    And if you really think that Bryant makes those teammates better, you're bigger idiots than I thought.

    Answer me this...why is everybody so afraid of Bryant? Why won't anybody in the state of California stand up to the guy? Gasol's very tempered (and very true) comments are the closest I've ever seen to anybody other than Phil even peep about him in public. It's unbelievable. Like taking a shot away from Bryant is the equivalent of desecrating the holy sepulchre in the Vatican.

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    I can't wait to see how you Laker fans will spin all this when your boys lose in the playoffs this year. All that talent, and one guy will take them down by himself.

    If practically every guy on your team, as well as a caoch who has won ten les, says that one guy is playing selfishly and shooting too many shots...then he is.

    And if you really think that Bryant makes those teammates better, you're bigger idiots than I thought.

    Answer me this...why is everybody so afraid of Bryant? Why won't anybody in the state of California stand up to the guy? Gasol's very tempered (and very true) comments are the closest I've ever seen to anybody other than Phil even peep about him in public. It's unbelievable. Like taking a shot away from Bryant is the equivalent of desecrating the holy sepulchre in the Vatican.
    Exaggerate much do ya?


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    I can't wait to see how you Laker fans will spin all this when your boys lose in the playoffs this year. All that talent, and one guy will take them down by himself.

    If practically every guy on your team, as well as a caoch who has won ten les, says that one guy is playing selfishly and shooting too many shots...then he is.

    And if you really think that Bryant makes those teammates better, you're bigger idiots than I thought.

    Answer me this...why is everybody so afraid of Bryant? Why won't anybody in the state of California stand up to the guy? Gasol's very tempered (and very true) comments are the closest I've ever seen to anybody other than Phil even peep about him in public. It's unbelievable. Like taking a shot away from Bryant is the equivalent of desecrating the holy sepulchre in the Vatican.

    I'm sure the laker fan response will be to call you a hater and/or laugh that your team sucks or something along those lines...

    But I agree----Gasol's statements rang a bell....but nobody wants to SEE it...which is good...because when they ultimately get eliminated this year--then the ----throwing each other under the bus extravaganza---will be very amusing....but that is EXACTLY the kind of manufactured drama that the media and lakers fans live for...

    no-one will mention kobe's shot selection---but they WILL crucify gasol or someone else missing a shot or free throw...

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    I'm sure the laker fan response will be to call you a hater and/or laugh that your team sucks or something along those lines...

    But I agree----Gasol's statements rang a bell....but nobody wants to SEE it...which is good...because when they ultimately get eliminated this year--then the ----throwing each other under the bus extravaganza---will be very amusing....but that is EXACTLY the kind of manufactured drama that the media and lakers fans live for...

    no-one will mention kobe's shot selection---but they WILL crucify gasol or someone else missing a shot or free throw...
    This Laker fan is just baffled at why you would feel so butthurt that we actually root and support a player on our team?

    I think the Lakers chances are pretty good this year. Probably the very reason you pay so much attention to them...

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    This Laker fan is just baffled at why you would feel so butthurt that we actually root and support a player on our team?

    I think the Lakers chances are pretty good this year. Probably the very reason you pay so much attention to them...
    The reason I posted was in response to another bull story from the media trying to spin --in kobe's favor ---yet again...

    the fact that you root for your teams players is normal---no-one is butthurt about that

    the fact that this player happens to be glorified to god status is disgusting and IMHO ---it cheapens the game of basketball--but I understand that is just today's reality...

    I do agree the lakers chances are pretty good this year---but we'll see what happens on the court.

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    If Gasol > Kobe then why did Kobe win the 2009 Final's MVP?
    Worthy > Magic in 88
    Dumars > Isiah in 89
    Cedric Maxwell > Bird in 81
    Parker > Duncan in 07
    Jojo White > Cowens in 76

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    Anyone that is not braindead knows Kobe > Gasol. The very notion there is any discussion about this is beyond ridiculous.

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    The Lakers being compe ive was largely due to the emergence of Andrew Bynum, the guy Kobe wanted traded for an aging Jason Kidd (which made no sense whatsoever).
    Great basketball players usually make terrible GMs.

    Yet another way in which Kobe is following in the proud footsteps of Herr Jordan.

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    The reason I posted was in response to another bull story from the media trying to spin --in kobe's favor ---yet again...

    the fact that you root for your teams players is normal---no-one is butthurt about that

    the fact that this player happens to be glorified to god status is disgusting and IMHO ---it cheapens the game of basketball--but I understand that is just today's reality...

    I do agree the lakers chances are pretty good this year---but we'll see what happens on the court.
    Well. I really didn't see anything in the article trying to make kobe into some God. Just an article showing that 1. he made mistakes in the past, and 2. He's learned from them.

    If you saw otherwise then so be it.

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    I can't wait to see how you Laker fans will spin all this when your boys lose in the playoffs this year. All that talent, and one guy will take them down by himself.
    If the team goes down, it will truly be a team effort with blame to lay at the door of plenty of players. Kobe with his ballhoggery, Fisher with his delusional "I'm-still-in-my-prime" chuckery, Gasol with his soft play underneath and constant looking to the refs for bailouts, Bynum for his lack of dedication on the defensive end, Odom for his Groundhog Day game, Artest for his occasional tunnel vision and indecision on the offensive end. And that doesn't even get into the failings of the bench scrubs.

    Funny that of all these guys Artest seems to know his role the best. For the most part he has played smart on both ends and his all-out game on defense is awesome. He has picked up LA big time on that end.

    And if you really think that Bryant makes those teammates better, you're bigger idiots than I thought.

    Answer me this...why is everybody so afraid of Bryant? Why won't anybody in the state of California stand up to the guy? Gasol's very tempered (and very true) comments are the closest I've ever seen to anybody other than Phil even peep about him in public. It's unbelievable. Like taking a shot away from Bryant is the equivalent of desecrating the holy sepulchre in the Vatican.
    Kobe is a basketball bully... that can be good and bad. When winning, he helps push teammates to better (and yes, he does generally make his teammates better). Winning is the ultimate deodorant and everyone is usually pretty happy as long as the wins keep piling up. Start underplaying expectations though and the finger-pointing can start. Just like the in-your-face coach, that approach can really wear on people, too.

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    Worthy > Magic in 88
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    Jojo White > Cowens in 76
    ISTR Kobe has five top-5 season MVP finishes, including one #1 finish and two #2 finishes.

    I'm not aware of any top-5 finishes for Gasol but I do think he has a top-10 finish in voting.

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    hey gobbler...

    the only bull spewed was yours...

    the article was not misinterpreted...the media is trying to spin kobe NOT responding to Gasol as if this was some cerebral, mature tactic on kobe's part...

    the FACTS are that---WHO the is kobe...to be admonishing teammates or imposing his will on his teammates...

    if the media had any balls or objectivity...they would call a spade a spade---instead of all this bull coddling of so called superstars...

    at the end of the day its YOU laker fans that are the suckers...

    HAD kobe been a good teammate and/or decent human---he---TOGETHER ---with shaq---would have had ADDITIONAL les...

    had the media called it as what it was---two ing drama queens who should have BOTH shut the up---played ball---respected their fans and coach...

    then maybe both kobe and shaq would have been far more respected NBA-WIDE...

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    Really Chris... is that the best you can do? Taking someone else's post and adding your obsession with my name because you get images of s from it? Really? Are you so butthurt that I've pointed out your BS and lies that you resort to gradeschool antics? Really? How sad...

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    best post so far^

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