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    they have already recalled them for mechanical problems that could lead to stuck accelerators as well as computer problems with the braking system, so yes -- they have said things are wrong with their cars.

    I agree that the numbers are small, and toyota sales aren't really being hurt by this.

    It's fun to watch you lionize a lawyer who is trying to criticize other lawyers for his own financial benefit.
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    "toyota sales aren't really being hurt by this."

    bull , they cratered in Jan, and probably Feb.

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    Some of these incidents are the floor mat snagging the accelerator pedal. The others are old drivers confusing the accelerator for the brake pedal.

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    "toyota sales aren't really being hurt by this."

    bull , they cratered in Jan, and probably Feb.
    lol down 8.7% from 02/2009. Not exactly cratering.
    Mitsubishi was down 10% without any controversy. Suzuki was down 61%!


    *edit* can't spell mitsubishi if my life depends on it.
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    lol down 8.7% from 02/2009. Not exactly cratering.
    Mitusbishi was down 10% without any controversy. Suzuki was down 61%!

    Don't confuse it with facts. It puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again.

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    Toyota is an American Company. They employ thousands of Americans.
    It's a multinational company, headquartered in JAPAN. Does "Toyota" sound American to you?

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    It's a multinational company, headquartered in JAPAN.
    Toyota has manufacturing and assembly plants in this country and they buy component parts for their cars from American companies -- with nothing coming from Japan.

    Does "Toyota" sound American to you?
    As American as it gets; this is the melting pot of the world.

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    Trevor Traina

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    Posted: March 16, 2010 02:51 AM
    New Survey Shows Toyota Recalls Taking Toll

    A new survey is casting light on the extent of consumer wariness in the wake of the ongoing Toyota recalls. Almost three out of every four Americans now trust the Toyota brand less because of the recent recalls and negative publicity according to the survey commissioned by DriverSide.com.

    While there has been widespread speculation that Toyota was taking serious knocks due to the unrelenting tide of recalls on some of its most significant models, the extent of the damage had not been quantified. The new DriverSide.com survey shows that the brand has indeed been damaged. Of the 74% who now trust the brand less there was consistency across ages and other demographics although slightly more women than men (76% vs. 71%) have experienced a dip in their trust of Toyota. The numbers are a sobering reminder that Toyota has work to do if it is going to restore people's trust in the brand.

    If there is a silver lining it is that 69% of car owners have been motivated to pay more attention to their own car's maintenance. Much recent data shows that people need to keep their cars longer. And yet, most people are not performing the most basic maintenance like following the manufacturer's recommended service schedule or rotating their tires. If the recent Toyota issues can get a larger percentage of the population to focus on preventative car maintenance, then it would be a positive development.

    As for Toyota, there are a number of recent developments that cast some doubt on Toyota's detractors. Questions about the Prius driver in San Diego, questions about the accuracy of the recent coverage of the recalls on television, etc. may spell the turning point for this crisis. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out and what the ultimate impact is. A very similar scandal almost killed Audi in the 1980's only to be proven driver error. It took Audi ten years to recover but I suspect that Toyota will be back in the driver's seat much sooner than that.

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    Toyota has manufacturing and assembly plants in this country and they buy component parts for their cars from American companies -- with nothing coming from Japan.
    Not so sure about that.

    My understanding is that the cars have a mix of parts from various suppliers both in the US and Japan, as well as a couple of other places.

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    [Toyota is as] American as it gets; this is the melting pot of the world.
    True.

    If anyone thinks Toyota is really a foreign company, then buy their stock.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=TM

    http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/ir/stock/outline.html

    Stock listings
    Japan: Tokyo, Nagoya, Osaka, Fukuoka, Sapporo
    Overseas: New York, London
    Pick and exchange. I would note that the above link shows that at least one of their largest shareholders is a bank in New York.

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    Why do these phantom accelerator pedals hate old people so much?

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    Speaking of phantom accelerators, not looking good for that guys who said his Prius sped out of control. Both Toyota and the NHTSA are saying they can't find anything wrong with his car.

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    Speaking of phantom accelerators, not looking good for that guys who said his Prius sped out of control. Both Toyota and the NHTSA are saying they can't find anything wrong with his car.

    The NHTSA is all but calling him a liar.

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    he'll be on Dancing with the Stars next season

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    The NHTSA is all but calling him a liar.
    Yup.

    "inconsistencies" in his testimony.

    Essentially, if there is some sort of even like an overrevving engine, then mashing on the brakes is a "failsafe" that shuts the engine down.

    If the guy had mashed on the brakes as he said he did, or had put it into neutral at any time, he could have stopped the car.

    The op-ed guy, although a partisan hack, probably has his finger on the true culprit in my opinion, if the ages of the drivers in question is true, although there could be some kink in the way the data was given.

    It could be that only older people actually bother to report the incidents, leading to the skewness of the ages. Remember this sample is not random, but self-reported data. If someone chooses not to report, then they would be missing from the data sample. Random samples are the only valid types of samples for true scientific/statistical purposes.

    The problem of older drivers will just get worse.

    At some point, most states, if not all, will pass some form of mandatory testing for people over 60 or so.

    We need to do that now, but there is no political will to do so. We will wait, as usual, until someone literally dies. Yes, there have been some spectacular crashes, but it will take a lot more before we get off our asses, sadly. I can only hope that my family would not be one of the statistics.

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    I could be mistaken, but I think there already are a few states who do have drivers tests for seniors.

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