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    all that I pray for----after Pop bent over for coach brown---is that maybe LB will at least have the common courtesy to give Pop a proverbial reach-around and throw the spurs someone useful for next season...

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    they beat orlando yesterday without wallace

    jax was just lighting up that magic team

    bobcats can cause alot of trouble in the east playoffs if they make it, they got nothing to lose anyway and they match up pretty good with the elite teams....
    funny, the two players (excluding Wallace) making the biggest difference down the stretch for Charlotte should be carving up the west for SAS this season.

    Okay Larry Pop did you a favor, now send us G-Force for RJ plz.
    You've got the right idea, and i wouldn't say no to Gerald, but SJackson has left the biggest hole for the Spurs in the champ years this side of DRob. Besides, he's the same height as Wallace but plays true swing/guards 4's anyway.

    I want that guy back who gave us the playmaking manu gives us, and I'll take that 50% investment vs 200% payoff that Stephen gives us over Jefferson, too.

    If Larry ever gets around to returning the favor while he's blowing up the Bobcats, Pop & Co need to angle hard for SJackson

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    Now who was that re that claimed Ratliff is nothing but a stat padder for blocked shots? Pretty sure it was jjktkk, since he's been peculiarily absent from this thread.


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    funny, the two players (excluding Wallace) making the biggest difference down the stretch for Charlotte should be carving up the west for SAS this season.



    You've got the right idea, and i wouldn't say no to Gerald, but SJackson has left the biggest hole for the Spurs in the champ years this side of DRob.
    Besides, he's the same height as Wallace but plays true swing/guards 4's anyway.

    I want that guy back who gave us the playmaking manu gives us, and I'll take that 50% investment vs 200% payoff that Stephen gives us over Jefferson, too.

    If Larry ever gets around to returning the favor while he's blowing up the Bobcats, Pop & Co need to angle hard for SJackson
    I agree with that. The Spurs haven't won anything once he left the team.

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    I agree with that. The Spurs haven't won anything once he left the team.
    wat crack u on...we won in 05 n 07

    im sure if we resigned him in 03/04, we be talkin about a 3peat or 5 straight les...

    how much was turgo on when we signed him for one season 03/04...

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    I agree with that. The Spurs haven't won anything once he left the team.
    I know, right, since he left we've only won like two championships.

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    Every time Theo blocks a shot, a Spurs fan gets a headache.

    I'm glad he's feeling appreciated now, but have no doubt that while he was in SA he was helping Blair and being a tutor to some of the younger players. Also, I don't think I ever heard him complain about . Go get 'em Theo!

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    2 more rings, got
    Agreed, the end justifies the means. Detroit passed on three HOFer's in '03 and they won a championship right after that .

    (post may/may not be partially directed @ Gonzo. hard to get a read on his sarcasm.)

    edit: small grammatical error
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    Oh really, Larry? You're glad Pop is such a good friend?

    Then why did you him on Jackie Butler?

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    Looks like all the practice is starting to pay off for Malik.
    Not sure how, considering that he's been better than Bogans since camp.

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    I'll never understand why Pop NEVER teamed Theo up with Tim for just 10 minutes a game. They would really have been a force together. Gasol would have had problems. Good thing Matt Bonner is making over the backboard shots now, I'm sure that is something to count on more than a 15+ yr vet with low miles who knows how to block, box out, and rebound. Thanks Pop!

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    for anyone who counterargues any of your criticisms of Popovich's decisions with "he has four rings, so he's right and you're wrong; everything he does is infallible" (plenty of you morons out there) just throw this piece of evidence at their faces.

    his current up is not playing Ian Mahinmi, and we'll be saying the same thing about him when he puts up good numbers next year on a team that decides to give him the light of day.

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    the problem is pop has been too stringent/bullheaded with his coaching/strategies. i think all the talk of him being one of the greatest coaches of all time and possbily the beat in the L right now go to his head and thinks he can do no wrong. even in interviews now he seems like an arrogant SOB.

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    for anyone who counterargues any of your criticisms of Popovich's decisions with "he has four rings, so he's right and you're wrong; everything he does is infallible" (plenty of you morons out there) just throw this piece of evidence at their faces.

    his current up is not playing Ian Mahinmi, and we'll be saying the same thing about him when he puts up good numbers next year on a team that decides to give him the light of day.
    The whole situation with Ratliff and Mahinmi has been puzzling to say the least. If Ratliff wasn't really in Pop's plans this year why did he sign him and use him for 8 minutes a game in the 1st half of the season rather than feed those minutes to the very wet behind the ears Mahinmi? To a guy like Ian those minutes would have been pure gold.

    Now we have neither player either available and/or ready to contribute and must pray everyone stays healthy and Matt Bonner can not only hold the fort defensively but stay hot from downtown, which is a pretty tall order.

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    Oh really, Larry? You're glad Pop is such a good friend?

    Then why did you him on Jackie Butler?
    Larry was just paying Pop back for that dog Pop sent Larry's way -- Raja Bell.

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    Pop didn't play a healthy Ratliff, which is inexcusable, especially considering how porous our defense was early in the year.

    It's no surprise to me that Ratliff is excelling in Charlotte. When Theo has been healthy, he's been good. It's not like we needed him to score 15 points a game.

    Pop has been one of the Top 3 worst coaches in the NBA this year. If I'm Peter Holt, I'm livid right about now.

    Also, we knew Dice was a slow starter, yet we watched him sleepwalk through the first three months of the season, missing rotations and jumpers with frightening regularity. And all the while, a healthy Theo sat on the pine beside a healthy Ian Mahinmi.

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    for anyone who counterargues any of your criticisms of Popovich's decisions with "he has four rings, so he's right and you're wrong; everything he does is infallible" (plenty of you morons out there) just throw this piece of evidence at their faces.

    his current up is not playing Ian Mahinmi, and we'll be saying the same thing about him when he puts up good numbers next year on a team that decides to give him the light of day.

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    I support Dr. Gonzo's smartassedness.

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    2016 second? will the NBA still be around then? if the world ends in 2012, we will have gotten hosed on that trade.

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    2016 second? will the NBA still be around then? if the world ends in 2012, we will have gotten hosed on that trade.
    u actually believe we made that trade for a pick in 2016? u dont think it was a cash out like the rest of us?

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    Theo did fill a hole for the Bobcats...can't believe they were even in the playoffs race with the frontcourt that they had before they signed him.

    The Spurs had a stacked bigs rotation. He'd be great to have as a bench player but with the way forum users are they make him out to be much more than what he is. He contributes less than guys like Blair, healthy Bonner, McDyess, and Duncan and it didn't make much sense to give him substantial minutes over those guys. Ian also kind of fills whatever void Theo left. Trading him got us a pick, saved cash, and gives more minutes to guys like Ian and Blair. Makes sense but in some people's minds they want him on board which would only have hindered those guys' minutes.

    Good to see Larry Brown singing his praises but coaches sing praises for just about every classy player (also see Doc's take on Finley before he played a single second for Boston).

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    The Spurs had a stacked bigs rotation. He'd be great to have as a bench player but with the way forum users are they make him out to be much more than what he is. He contributes less than guys like Blair, healthy Bonner, McDyess, and Duncan and it didn't make much sense to give him substantial minutes over those guys. Ian also kind of fills whatever void Theo left.
    First of all, Dice was sleepwalking the first half of the season, and Bonner was injured. And our bigs rotation was so stacked that we played Finley and especially Jefferson regularly at PF, while the other team was having a layup practice. In fact, we were SO STACKED, that Pop decided not to start Duncan to rest him, only to have to change plans midway into the game.

    And please step away from the Ian bandwagon. You're the first to come up with excuses of why he's not getting playing time. Even today, he's barely able to even get any playing time on complete blowouts.

    We could argue wether trading him was right or not, but there was no compelling reason for not playing the guy 10 mins a game while he was here.

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    Theo did fill a hole for the Bobcats...can't believe they were even in the playoffs race with the frontcourt that they had before they signed him.

    The Spurs had a stacked bigs rotation. He'd be great to have as a bench player but with the way forum users are they make him out to be much more than what he is. He contributes less than guys like Blair, healthy Bonner, McDyess, and Duncan and it didn't make much sense to give him substantial minutes over those guys. Ian also kind of fills whatever void Theo left. Trading him got us a pick, saved cash, and gives more minutes to guys like Ian and Blair. Makes sense but in some people's minds they want him on board which would only have hindered those guys' minutes.

    Good to see Larry Brown singing his praises but coaches sing praises for just about every classy player (also see Doc's take on Finley before he played a single second for Boston).
    And here comes Cane right on cue to minimize the F.O. damage, how predictable.

    Spurs aren't exactly deep in their frontcourt, and have no pure shotblockers outside of Duncan. We're going to be in deep w/ Bonner and Blair trying to defend against some of the bigger frontcourts out there. We're going to wishing we had Ratliff then. And since Ian got for minutes this year he's nowhere near ready to contribute playoff minutes.

    Trying to justify all this horse is laughable. GTFO.

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    Top-55 protected 2016 second round pick.

    Never underestimate the shrewdness of RC.
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    First of all, Dice was sleepwalking the first half of the season, and Bonner was injured. And our bigs rotation was so stacked that we played Finley and especially Jefferson regularly at PF, while the other team was having a layup practice. In fact, we were SO STACKED, that Pop decided not to start Duncan to rest him, only to have to change plans midway into the game.

    And please step away from the Ian bandwagon. You're the first to come up with excuses of why he's not getting playing time. Even today, he's barely able to even get any playing time on complete blowouts.

    We could argue wether trading him was right or not, but there was no compelling reason for not playing the guy 10 mins a game while he was here.
    All right, stacked was the wrong word. We had a lot of "depth". Pop did go for small ball in an effort to keep his veteran bigs healthy for the playoffs from what he's said to the media.

    Other possibly compelling reasons why Theo didn't play much: Because of his age and injury history it'd be risky to play him substantial minutes, the Spurs wanted to get McDyess chemistry with Duncan since they'd be the projected starting froncourt, Bonner was having a career season when he was healthy, and Blair was a huge surprise (one of the bigger reasons imo) and continues to be one today thus earning his minutes in the rotation.

    EDIT: Also not on Ian's bandwagon, sorry if I gave that impression. Ian getting minutes was an inevitable byproduct of Theo leaving. I'm not joining on this d-leaguer's bandwagon - he's still raw as but he benefits more from minutes as opposed to Theo.


    And here comes Cane right on cue to minimize the F.O. damage, how predictable.

    Spurs aren't exactly deep in their frontcourt, and have no pure shotblockers outside of Duncan. We're going to be in deep w/ Bonner and Blair trying to defend against some of the bigger frontcourts out there. We're going to wishing we had Ratliff then. And since Ian got for minutes this year he's nowhere near ready to contribute playoff minutes.

    Trying to justify all this horse is laughable. GTFO.
    Damn you got a lot of haterade

    You're right, the Spurs don't have any pure shotblockers unless Ian is counted. Bonner actually plays decent defense but he doesn't have the presence or height to be a bigger impact. Blair has a lot of work to do.

    Theo may be missed and his time would've come in the playoffs against bigger teams. Not having that option sucks but the Spurs still saved $$$ and still have guys on the bench to play. Ian won't be used in the playoffs unless the injury bug strikes some more but he does have similarities with Theo's game.
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