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Sweet. Another Ginobili rules, Parker sucks thread.
Recent quote from Jefferson:
“(Manu is) huge because he gets steals, strips and deflections, and you turn those into fast breaks...That's where I'm at my best.”
All season long Jefferson has needed a creator, along with break opportunities.
The above quote shows the value of a playmaker like Gino vs. a scoring guard like Tony: Several players on our team need the playmaking abilities of others to get involved, BOTH ON OFFENSE AND DEFENSE.
Right now, with guys like Malik Hairston and Cedric Jackson seeing the light of day, our defense has begun to come back from the dead. The energy and HEART (no smiley for heart?) they are bringing is enough reason for this Spurs fan to get excited about watching our team. They are playing with something to lose, and the world to gain. I hate to say it, but I think Tim, Tony, and Pop could ALL learn something here.
And is it any wonder that the defense picks up when Tony is out, Tim's minutes are dipping, and Finley is cut? These guys are all going through the motions, pulling an "Horry" if you will. Tim has been giving up points in the paint all season, excuses be damned. I am tired of waiting for Tony to heal/play defense with heart/get guys involved, not necessarily in that order. Finley is self explanatory. And Bonner on the bench helps tons.
The biggest thing is not a subtraction of "corporate knowledge," however, but the addition of HEART. Manu is healthy AND playing for a contract. In other words, he has something to play for and it shows. This season he has carried our team. He is become our great Argentine hope. Tim can get his numbers, but it is Ginobili who will dictate our fate.
The Point: Now with Jefferson playing alongside Gino rather than Tony, and the addition of defense and open court opportunities, we begin to see what this whole board has been clamoring for all season...production from RJ. His confidence is up, and now we can rely on him for intangibles as well. Return on investment. The upcoming schedule will tell if its fact or fluke.
Ginobili has served Blair all season. Now RJ. Who is next?
Sweet. Another Ginobili rules, Parker sucks thread.
Bull . RJ's problems don't come from Tony, they come from him sitting in the corner, not driving it, and chucking. You've seen what happens when he is aggressive and just takes it to the hole like a man, he either gets a dunk or free throws. , if he would grab a ing rebound he could start the fast break himself because I've seen it a couple times. Jefferson's problems are that he's lazy, plain and simple.
How about Parker, Timmy's D and Pop?
Tony should be resting and watching Cedric play defense with heart right now. Giving the fans reason to get excited.
Pop should be understanding that his schemes dont work unless his guys play with heart (like Bowen used to). Tony and Tim can walk through the defense all day, just as orchestrated by Pop, and it doesnt mean jack till the guys play with fire.
butthurt Parker fan much?
I wont argue that he could fix his own problems on the court, but I think you would agree that at his salary, sometimes you have to facilitate solutions.
Parker would make a great sixth man. Only homer Spur fans overrate Parker.
And his handle is Parker2112.
Go figure . . .
There is nothing here that says Parker sucks. It is just a matter of fact that some players need help in creating their shot. Players like Parker and Manu can create their own shot. The fact that Manu is better than Parker in helping others create their shot does not mean that Parker sucks. It does mean that Parker is better suited to be on the floor with guys who do not need to score to be effective.
The important part of that name is the 2112...it is representative of how Parker fanhood is a required part of being a Spurstalk poster. To speak out against Parker's shortcomings are to draw the wrath of the "Red Star of the Solar Federation...."
I dont hate Parker, but I hate his defense.
I dont hate Pop, but I hate how he takes free agents and kills their game.
I dont hate Timmy, but I hate what our interior D has become.
It's what happens when you try to play with nagging injuries all year long, you're going to be slow and infective.(TP's game is based on speed!) This years Tony looks like Wade did when he tried to played injured 2 years ago. Scrubs were taking him off the dribble, stealing it from him, looked like Finley, etc. I'm a strong advocate towards bringing Parker off the bench for the playoffs, so he could learn to share the ball with the second unit and finally get healthy. This month and half off should do wonders for Parker's aging legs.
Parker obviously needs to slow down and wait for his teammates to catch up with him on fast breaks so he can pass to them.
Threads like this would be less annoying if Manu had been treated the same way when he was injured.
Thank you.A fan without blinders.
There used to be a lot of truth here. But now with George, Malik, Jefferson, and Gino who can all run the break with him, he needs to start spacing the floor. Parker does not space breaks at all. He takes center stage.
Can run the break with a healthy Tony?
We'll have to see it happen first. The only guy who could truly keep up with him on a regular basis was Elson.
How can you expect Tim not to allow some points in the paint when he's our only ing big defender?
Out of the Big 3, Ginobili has found the most chemistry with the new acquisitions. Compared to Parker, Ginobili has had a much better season. Last season Parker was #8 in the PER standings, this season he's not even in the top 50. Ginobili was #11 last season and is now #19 but should only improve in the PER standings if he keep up his vintage play.
This was seen early on in the season too especially during that game against Toronto where Ginobili and RJ carried the Spurs (IIRC both Parker and Duncan were injured then). Their styles mesh with eachother and Ginobili excels at making plays for the new guys in ways that Parker has yet to show.
This has been a ty season for Parker unfortunately.
Some points is acceptable, but sometimes you have to drop your
and say enough is enough.
It's cause to some, Parker is the G.S.O.A.T! The bench you say??? You should be burned in front of the Alamo for blasphemy! The bench is only for Mojos like Ginobili. I'm JK..... you just can't mention Parker and bench in the same sentence on Spurstalk.
Parker's game meshes well with Tim.
Is that a surprise? Pop has engineered this connection since day one.
Parker's game doesn't mesh well with anyone else but perimiter shooters.
Is that a surprise? Pop has engineered this connection since day one.
With all respect, I'll put some of my intellectual property on the table here at no cost just to illuminate some naive posters.... obviously since our articles were forbidden here, the forums isn't the same.............................................. . you idiots can't measure what the team has done without Parker untill they play some real teams.... they have played scrub during this stretch. jezz
Most people who want Parker coming from the bench simply want Manu to start to satisfy their sense of justice for their favorite player.
True, TL would not be nearly as effective as Manu off of the bench
Thats bull . Manu is a ing motor for this team. He is playing healthy and for his next contract. He creates and defends. He benefits the whole team when he is in. Parker has struggled with every new face. He has been hurt, but there is a case to be made that playing hurt would facilitate him creating for others and relying less on his drive. The fact that he hasn't done that, even when he is playing slow tells you one thing: that he cant.
The only fans who wont even consider Parker in a position to better serve the team are butthurt fanboys.
Butthurt Manu fanboys start threads like this one.
That's one of the reasons why people want him to come off the bench instead of starting. He plays good with Duncan but ignores everybody else on the floor. It's like when you and your buddy play a full court pick up game with 3 other guys you don't know. Your naturally going to be passing it back and fourth and making plays with friend because you have chemistry with him. And your only going to pass it to the other guys on a bail out shot. TP's just doesn't have the court vision or creativity to get others involved quick enough. That's his weakness! He's not like a Manu/Kidd or a Pau Gasol where you can plug them in any team, and they will start finding guys naturally.
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