haha yeah Gasol is definitely softer, but he's still more valuable. Lets be real, everything that has to do with basketball he does better than Bynum. The offense flows much better with him, and the defense is better despite his charmin softness. Drew may be tougher but he's as mobile as an anvil. Bynum hasn't improved as a player in 3 years, and has actually regressed from what he was 2 years ago.
Its proven we don't need Bynum to play much or even play well to win. To me thats more damning than Pau being soft as my car's leather.
C'mon. You really mean to tell me if we could get an allstar point guard for a dude that barely even plays the 4th quarter, and upgrade our dead-weight at point at the same time, you wouldn't do it? You're honestly not tired of Kobe being the only one who can make anything happen from the perimeter? Cause I really, really am.
This thread is funny. I love Carl Landry, but that trade they pulled off was highway robbery and Houston won that trade with Kevin Martin (Martin was the best player in the 3 team deal), Jordan Hill, and the boat load of picks they got from the Knicks.
This trade will help Houston more in the future than not moving Carl Landry....and again, this is coming from someone who loves Carl Landry as a basketball player.
Won't he be forced to play in the Summer?
Holy Rocket fan, you got Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill and 2 first round picks for an undersized C and T-Back, and you have buyers ing remorse?
I know
Its MANdry, bro!
That's Indazone, and ONLY Indazone
He's still MANdry, but Houston still got the better player and better overall package in the trade.
Kings and Rockets atleast both got good players though. The Knicks better pray that their hail Mary attempt of player personnel works out, because of LeBron turns his back on them they'll look so freaking re ed and will have nothing to show for any transaction that they've made during the last 3+ seasons.
They are still in the hunt for Joe Johnson, Chris Bosh, and company. But, those guys can't carry a franchise like the Knicks by themselves
Of course the Rockets got the better end of the deal. That's just business. But man I'm gonna miss those in your face dunks of his. I hope Jordan Hill can step it up and be just like Mandry.
Yes they are in the hunt for those players, but their main goal is first and foremost LeBron James. They aren't going into the off season trying to get any of those other players. Anything minus LeBron James is a big giant failure for them...especially with how obvious their push for him has been.
True, but LeBron wouldn't be that stupid to leave the situation he is in right now.
Bynum has way more impact on a basketball game.12m Bynum vs 3m Landry
Which one would you prefer?
Landry is getting a raise anyways.
bynum for a solid big and and starting point guard could have gone through at the dealine for example noah and hinrich for bynum would have been good for both parties. chicago gets a good low post scorer to compliment rose and are set for the future.
we get two all hustle players one being very physical inside in noah and the other being a point guard who can defend and knock down the three.
now that they didnt pull the trigger i think its going to be harder to acquire a true starting point guard. fisher is done, farmer just wont cut it and is most likely leaving, shannon is a shooting gaurd and could opt out. that leaves us with sasha, mle, and two 2nd round draft picks to acquire point guard.
One of those rare trades where it works out for both teams imo. Scola was enough PF for us, and we desperately needed a wing scorer.
Scola is better, and we traded a backup for a 20+ppg scoring wing.
Great trade......
Once Landry's athleticism starts to fade, he is going to struggle, he is a hard worker on offense...but on defense....lol...what defense?
DD
So Trevor Ariza is now back in the role that he eschewed the Lakers for so he could go to Houston and be a go-to guy?
I think you underestimate Bynums impact. We won the le with Bynum's impact, minimum or not. We were man handled in the finals without. I wouldn't make that trade, no way would i feel comfortable with Gasol as the only center to win a le. Boston made a believer out of me, so I will just respectfully disagree and move on.
The lack of size was a problem against Boston. But thats only one of the reasons they won the le. They also won because Vlad Radmanovic and Sasha Vujacic were playing extensive, crunch time minutes against Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. They won because once they took the ball out of Kobe's hands with those traps, nobody was able to create any offense either for themselves or others. No one but Kobe could get to the rim. No one but Kobe could make plays consistently for the other guys.
They did the exact opposite of what the Spurs did in the WCF and we had absolutely no answer for it.
The Boston series is the #1 reason we need another creating/scoring guard.
Also, you overestimate Bynums impact last year. He was a foul-taker. Thats pretty much the extent of it. His defense on Howard was nonexistent and his offense was below-average, at best. We won because of Kobe, Pau, LO, and Ariza. Thats it.
I respect your respectful disagreement, but respectfully disagree with it.
A healthy & confident Bynum is more important & a lot more rare these days then a guard IMO..You can see the bounce in his step lately, hes even been giving effort on the defensive side lately..He had like 8-9 dunks in yesterdays game alone..I was damn impressed with him & Pau yesterday. PPl seem to forget to Bynum wasnt even healthy in last years playoffs & was coming back from a torn MCL.
Gotta love the sarcasm there, anyways if he can stay healthy for the whole year we may be able to make a deep run in the playoffs, if not he expires and we can move the on.
You give credence to a couple of games over an entire year of subpar performance? I don't.
I like him, he's just proven to be a lazy, unmotivated player more often than not, and his basketball IQ and awareness hasn't improved since the day he stepped in the league.
He doesn't complete the team like a good player at point guard would. Imagine if we actually had 5 players on the court at one time that could contribute consistently, instead of always having one player on the court who is more likely to take away from the team than to contribute (our negative-impact PG's).
Bynum isn't worth playing 4 on 5 every game, and having him for 20-some minutes per game and on the bench in the 4th quarter is a considerably less valuable option than a good near all-star/all-star point guard playing 35+ and closing the game. I still am wondering how people have justified having him on the team for 12 mil/year as essentially a bench player.
We have a center and a PF, we don't need an all-star backup. Do what the Rockets did and trade the redundant player for someone who fills your needs. Thats smart basketball.
alright, i'll bite.
I didn't want to get into a deep discussion on this considering what we're discussing is not the topic but
first and foremost, you never trade big for small, unless its an all star like i expressed earlier. I would give more credence to this if it was trading Bynum for another big.
Bynum may not come to play every night but he's young. He's probably still partying and getting laid every night. When Gasol was out Bynum was playing at an all star pace. He averaged 20, 11, and 2 blocks a game. His production dropped when Gasol returned which is understandable. Bynums only 22 years old, Gasol is 29.
I'm all for getting a PG but not at the expense of one of our bigs. That would weaken the lakers and take away from their strength. They don't need an allstar guard with this team. , we haven''t had one this decade and still became the team of the decade. They can get an adequate PG without moving anyone, imo.
Trading Bynum for a point guard would make the Lakers the Dallas Mavericks of the last decade. A very good regular season team, not a championship team. Even Dallas was smart enough to have a center play along side Dirk because Dirk is a weak center. Same with Gasol. Boston exposed him to be as such and now everybody plays him that way and he is not responding, he's just laying down. Yes, I am very much against weak, soft players. I hate them! I would rather move Gasol than move Bynum and not for a point guard, for another center/PF. I would only move Gasol if he continues his soft ways. Other wise the Lakers are fine just as they are with a good, not great, PG.
No rockette fan, you guys aren't good unless Yao averages 20 ppg and still gets dominated like a pussy. He will stay healthy and he will have a PG that will only pass him the ball like lowry and you guys can finally be happy. I hope he buys his crutches in advance this time
You seem butthurt for some reason, oh yeah I forgot, when the Spurs were raped by the Mavs 4-1, their fans also got the "property of The Dallas Mavericks" branded on their assesNo rockette fan, you guys aren't good unless Yao averages 20 ppg and still gets dominated like a pussy. He will stay healthy and he will have a PG that will only pass him the ball like lowry and you guys can finally be happy. I hope he buys his crutches in advance this time
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