Addition by Manu and Subtraction: Why Jefferson Failed

[xapatan2]

Parker obviously needs to slow down and wait for his teammates to catch up with him on fast breaks so he can pass to them.

Threads like this would be less annoying if Manu had been treated the same way when he was injured.

THIS !

The truth !

Thanks for that

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[anakha]

We need the 2010 on onwards Parker to be a facilitator and play defense. Nothing more, nothing less!

Using that logic, you might as well trade him for Steve Blake. Just saying.

[Parker2112]

Using that logic, you might as well trade him for Steve Blake. Just saying.

We have guys making tens of millions who cant find a foothold when Tony is on the floor. Granted, it's by Pop's design, and Tony is running it the way Pop would have it run, but Tony could facilitate more without being a Steve Blake. It doesnt have to be all or nothing.

Besides that, Hill is scoring, facilitating and defending his ass off for a second year NBA player. Why can't Tony adjust, or be asked to adjust?

It wasnt above David Robinson to adjust when it benefited the team, but according to many on this board for Tony it would be out of the question.

IMHO, with the current personnel, Tony's twenty points is costing Jefferson a solid ten points, Dice probably five, Hill probably 5-8,, but the bigger picture says it costs us chemistry and cohesion, because these guys have no place in the offense with Tony unless they can hit a three pointer. That will cause pain and suffering in the playoffs. And that's not Tony's problem either...Pop can work out these bugs.

Hopefully the inspired heart-filled play of late will open his eyes to the fact that his system is not suited to this roster. We no longer have clutch three point shooters to feed off Tony. We've got a washed out Mason, an aimless RJ, an untrustworthy Bogans, a Bonner who is more famine than feast, etc.

[anakha]

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I'm not disagreeing with you. Just pointing out that having Parker completely abandon one of his greatest strengths brings no benefit to Parker nor the Spurs.

Should he come off the bench? Maybe. Should he start alongside Manu and RJ? Maybe. But saying that such and such should be the only role he plays is very myopic.

[DPG21920]

That's why I didn't bother arguing with rockyroads. Parker has never matched up with typical PG's that well...but he usually does match up with smaller 2 guards or bigger pg's...it's weird because you would think Parker would do better in speed on speed matchups but he actually does better against guys that attempt to muscle him.

Tony is a lot stronger and tougher than people give him credit for, mentally and physically...

And the fact that people want to throw Tony under the bus now that's he's a little beat up after hitting the floor and taking more punishment in the paint than any PG in the league the last 10 years is pretty weak.

Tony is very capable defender and I'd say for most of his career he's been the second best perimeter defender on the team after Bowen....

Keep in mind, the Spurs had one of the great defensive runs in NBA history up until about 2 years ago and Parker was a huge reason for that. He matches up with bigger stronger guards well and he sticks to the system...add all that to the fact that he pulled of the freak accomplishment of leading the NBA in points in the paint and is fearless about taking it to the hoop...and he's an awesome player and there is no way in we will get anyone better than he is.

He and Manu are different types of players, yes Manu does a better job of making other players better, but Tony Parker is one of the most dominant matchups in the league on an indivual level. The media would never shut about Tony if he played for a big market team. He'd be the most hyped point guard in the league if he played in NY or LA.

Very good post.

Spurs are definately better with Manu running point. He's unselfish, makes the passes, penetrates, scores. Parker is dribble into the paint, put it up get ball stripped, doesn't look for the open man and stalls the team out. Jefferson is putting up better numbers now too concidently with Manu running the point.

Very bad post.

[HarlemHeat37]

[Brazil]

+1 really a very nice and accurate thread !

[Parker2112]

+1 really a very nice and accurate thread !

What the does this mean Harlem? Reveling on the night of a Spurs loss?

Okay, I'll go with that, but I'm not sure you two realize what that says about you both. Lost a lot of respect for you two "fans."

First, Jefferson had a GREAT game. If Tim had shown up, we were completely compe ive with arguably the best team in the league. And if Tony was in the game at any point/in any capacity, we are in a damn good position to win.

Timmy is hurt. His interior D is nonexistent. His offense is sputtering. And while you two cheer our loss so you can revel on this thread, that fact dooms us more than anything that's happened all season. And regardless what anyone says, we can do damage in the playoffs with a healthy Duncan and Gino.