I agree with you that Hairston is a better option than Mason. IMO Pop is trying to pump Mason up and with the hope that Mason can rediscover his jumper.
Wade maybe more athletic, quicker and faster than Bogans, but their of similar size. I'm not totally surprised that he guarded Wade well, though I'm sure George and Manu defended him too, but it's when he has to guard Kobe, LeBron, Carmelo, Durant and Dirk that I'm worried about. He just doesn't have the physical or athletic tools to guard those players at all.
Oh, and save for a couple of three-pointers and lay-ups his offense game is completely atrocious.
I agree with you that Hairston is a better option than Mason. IMO Pop is trying to pump Mason up and with the hope that Mason can rediscover his jumper.
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I agree with you somewhat, I actually think Hairston is a better option than Bogans now, but Pop is notorious for playing veterans over younger players. Pop will continue to start Bogans reguardless, but hopefully he won't hesitate to put in Hairston when Bogans is not producing. I definitely can see Hairston becoming a fixture in the rotation next year, rather Bogans is on the team or not.
, Pop is notorious for playing veterans over younger players - regardless of results. That's part of his apparent "young player" prejudice. It can present problems when the younger player is clearly the better player. We saw it last year with Pop's electing to play Jacque Vaughn over Hill during the 2nd half of the season and into the playoffs. The biggest reason Hairston is seeing the light of day now is because Finley is gone. He should be playing ahead of Mason anyway.
I never really had as much of a problem with Bogans, as I did watching RJ's passive play, seeing Mason regress then complain about playing time, and watching Finley "stink up" the joint with this spot appearances this season. The second best thing to happen to the Spurs this year was letting Finley walk.
Bogans has had his share of bad games, but the effort has been there - even when the production hasn't. The production against the Heat, on both ends of the court, is what I expected out of him, as a role player. Hope he keeps it up, going forward.
We all know Pop loves Bogans for his role acceptance. I fully expect him to be on the squad next year. Meanwhile, Hairston should be a regular contributor, as a rotation player, by then.
Bogans was dishing elbows left and right. Can't deny he brought toughness needed last night.
Bogans played great. Only took him 60 games. Hope he keeps it up, particularly since it's obvious Pop isn't going to stop playing him in favor of the guy who has outplayed him since camp.
Ian Mahinmi has fewer scoreless performances than Bogans does.
Bogans was G last night and has been impressing me of late- I'll admit it.
Question is- can he reliably hit the corner three come playoff time?
Bogans played great that game. Even in his shoddy nights he at least puts forth the defensive effort and hustle that you expect from a Spurs player. Not only does he have the defensive mentality and a 3 point shot; he can also cut to the basket.
Mason Jr. deserves a lot more internet hate. Wtf happened to that guy.
Bogans as a starter most of the time blows. the question is why do so many of the Spur players have to come off the bench to be successful? I believe it has to do with a lack of confidence and prime time mentality. Most of the guys play well when they are not expected to play well. The basically have trouble with the pressure, which does not bode well for the playoffs.
Bogans can be a good contributor when he plays well and everyone else plays well. That said, he's still failed to score in five of his last ten games.
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Bogans is still a better option than RMJ. no question about it. Whether or not we find out Hairston will be a future piece in the spurs offense just isn't going to happen this year. Should we have played him earlier this season? Yes we should have, but fact is that we didn't so that leaves us with Bogans... who is the best choice right now. people need to drop the hate.
What is the spurs record in the last ten games? Not everyone has to score to be effective, thought most spurs fans would relize this.
dont suck his just yet........when they are in the playoffs and he does this than you can but he needs to be more consistent just like Muser said
although i am not a KB hater but he hasnt reached #12 status just yet
I hate to break it to you, but if Keith Bogans were actually like Bruce Bowen in that he didn't have to score to contribute, then people wouldn't be starting threads about him when he scores 8 points on 7 shots in a victory. If you doubt me, then check the Spurs' record most of this season when Bogans has been getting heavy minutes.
I'm perfectly open to the possibility that the combination of losing his starting gig and Hairston getting more of his minutes has jolted Bogans into playing better, even so far as to humor your suggestion above that he's more than minimally responsible for the Spurs' record over the last ten games. I'm even hopeful that he keeps it up, despite every indicator this season saying that he won't.
Bogans is certainly much more useful to the team now that Pop can put in Hairston when Keith is having a bad night.
Every now and than the sun shines on a dogs ass......I'd still play Hairston over Bogans.
Like it or not Bogans is the ONLY guy who can play the role of defensive specialist. Hairston may be better, but he is a ROOKIE no-name and will never get respect from the refs to be effective against a superstar. Bogans has been "sold" to media and fans as Bowen's replacemnet, so he will get a little cred. Too bad the NBA is that way, but it is.
Ditto. Too many bagels from him to suit my needs. He is just too inconsistent to stablize the rotation.
But that is because early in the season Finley was here taking Malik's minutes from him, which led to him being sent to the Toros. If he had gotten the PT I think he had earned this preseason then maybe he would be getting that respect you stated. And this has been a trend with Pop for years now - playing vets over rookies/younger players and suffering the conseqeunces. The Spurs had an opportunity to develop Malik but didn't until now. And as I think you correctly stated it is probably too late for him to be taken seriously by the refs come PO time.
Thats a whole different argument in itself. nobody is disputing the fact that hairston should have been playing minutes all year... fact is he didnt. Bogans is our best choice right now and the way hes been playing should be good enough for us to win games.
How people continue to hate on bogans and leave mason alone is beyond me.
Yea he'd be lucky to still be in the NBA next season imo.
Bogans is where he belongs, on the bench, just like Bonner.
Pop's post A/S break declaration of Bonner-Bogans starting was a recipe for failure, and thank God the breaks have come that made him at least give up the Bonner part after 2 games, and it's fortunate that Parker's injury has forced him to re-insert Jefferson into the starting line-up.
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