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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    the housing market in Austin is overpriced, and many of those richers aren't wealthy just financially rich on credit.

    SO when you figure cost of living.. San Antonio has an equal to or higher standard of living.
    So if the median income in SA was minimum wage and everyone lived in palm harbor...then it would still be socioec. equal to the average city?

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    yeah pretty much,


    But I seen some ghetto people in stone oak..don't take much to live there anymore. I saw a house for sale for 275,000.

    You can get that any where
    There are Stone Oak houses for $170K. It's not really a "richer" area. It's nice (though extremely crowded) and there are definitely some expensive houses, but it's not the Dominion or anything.

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    There are Stone Oak houses for $170K. It's not really a "richer" area. It's nice (though extremely crowded) and there are definitely some expensive houses, but it's not the Dominion or anything.
    these new estates you talkin about are they for mainly for the wealthy? or anyone who has money can just move in? u know what im talkin about with new estates that have poor planning only to turn into a ghetto after 5 yrs....

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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    Oh and I'm not bashing Stone Oak.. I know a lot of people on SpursTalk live there. And the average income of its residents is probably around $100K. Same with Terrell Hills and Alamo Heights. The only areas that are probably higher are Hill Country Village and The Dominion.

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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    these new estates you talkin about are they for mainly for the wealthy? or anyone who has money can just move in? u know what im talkin about with new estates that have poor planning only to turn into a ghetto after 5 yrs....
    Anyone can move to Stone Oak if they can afford it. The area is a little overcrowded to me, but it's not going to get ghetto in five years.

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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    I think these numbers are from 2000...

    The Dominion - $107,999 median household income, $229,424 average household income
    Hill County Village - $130,897 median household income
    Stone Oak - $92,249 median household income
    Terrell Hills - $86,636 median household income
    Alamo Heights - $64,688 median household income

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    the rich can move to wherever they like and live comfortable lives there, even in the most penurious areas there still live some rich people.

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    I've always thought mean was a better measure than median.

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    There are some areas that look like Mexico.....
    Stupid.

    You obviously haven't seen all of Mexico. There are areas in Mexico that don't have any type of real plumbing. There are areas where some of the houses are way better than anything here. So, you need to rethink what you posted.

    San Antonio is like any other large city in the U.S. There are areas that are bad and areas that are very nice. I wouldn't consider it a poor city overall, but I also wouldn't consider it being rich.

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    Every major city has poor people, middle class people and rich people....what is the point of this thread?

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    Every major city has poor people, middle class people and rich people....what is the point of this thread?
    Exactly!

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    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
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    Every major city has poor people, middle class people and rich people....what is the point of this thread?
    Yes I didn't understand what San Antonio was being compared to, other cities in Texas or the U.S., or the world? And even the comparisons within San Antonio are between neighborhoods, subdivisions and municipalities; doesn't seem very accurate. Most wealth distribution demographics are do ented by zip code, as per the IRS, statistically adjusting for variations: http://www.incometaxlist.com/texas-i...-returns-1.htm
    Also this is an interesting site where you can compare wealthiest/poorest zip codes in the country (San Antonio has no entries on either ) and then break down further by state
    http://wealth.mongabay.com/tables/10...des-10000.html

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    Anyone can move to Stone Oak if they can afford it. The area is a little overcrowded to me, but it's not going to get ghetto in five years.
    Other than the Dominion type homes in Sonterra, the great majority of Stone Oak is really nothing special. Most of the homes are simply nice, cookie cutter style subdivision homes you can find on many other sides of town.

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    So if the median income in SA was minimum wage and everyone lived in palm harbor...then it would still be socioec. equal to the average city?
    So you don't think cost of living should factor in to that type of data?

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    i live in shavano park. to me its the best place to live in san antonio. you have easy access to 1604, i10, 410 and miss out on a lot of that traffic that stone oak area deals with everyday, but still only a 5-10 minute drive to that area if thats where you want to hang out.

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    i live in shavano park. to me its the best place to live in san antonio. you have easy access to 1604, i10, 410 and miss out on a lot of that traffic that stone oak area deals with everyday, but still only a 5-10 minute drive to that area if thats where you want to hang out.
    Definitely a good spot and SP is easily higher end than Stone Oak.

    The only thing I hate about SP are the cops.......but I say that about every municipality around SA.

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    i live in shavano park. to me its the best place to live in san antonio. you have easy access to 1604, i10, 410 and miss out on a lot of that traffic that stone oak area deals with everyday, but still only a 5-10 minute drive to that area if thats where you want to hang out.
    The large lots with trees would be why Shavano Park is so appealing to me.

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    Definitely a good spot and SP is easily higher end than Stone Oak.

    The only thing I hate about SP are the cops.......but I say that about every municipality around SA.
    the ones around aren't as bad as the ones in. balcones heights, castle hills, alamo heights, peon valley etc...

    i'd rather live in a poor city with a low cost of living like sa then a poor city with a high cost of living, think newark nj, oakland, gary ind, or just about any rust belt ty.

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    So, tell me, is the area around the medical centre rich or poor? It seemed somewhere in the middle to me the two times I've stayed there, maybe a bit towards the poorer end.

    I took a bus to the city a few times and the inner north part of the city seemed pretty poor. I also once took a bus from the city out into the inner eastside and that area was definitely very poor.

    I've been pretty much all over the north and north-west, and that seemed pretty middle class to me.

    Haven't been to the south yet - anyone up for taking me down there next time I'm in SA?

    Like any city, it all depends where you go.

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    Medical center is ty, but it's a small area, right near there they ain't hurtin

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    The large lots with trees would be why Shavano Park is so appealing to me.
    Yeah, that's why I love living in Hill Country Village... no lots less than an acre and tons of trees.

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    I think these numbers are from 2000...

    The Dominion - $107,999 median household income, $229,424 average household income
    Hill County Village - $130,897 median household income
    Stone Oak - $92,249 median household income
    Terrell Hills - $86,636 median household income
    Alamo Heights - $64,688 median household income
    Shavano Park, TX: Estimated median household income in 2008: $129,349 (it was $108,306 in 2000)

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Shavano-Park-Texas.html

    I know there was a time that the highest median household income in the area was in Elm Creek, but that was a while back.

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    Shavano Park, TX: Estimated median household income in 2008: $129,349 (it was $108,306 in 2000)

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Shavano-Park-Texas.html

    I know there was a time that the highest median household income in the area was in Elm Creek, but that was a while back.
    you guys talkin about combined household income, that is 2 working parents right?

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    I've always thought mean was a better measure than median.
    you must suck at statistics then, median helps reduce the effects of outliers, very useful in demographics , also FRF

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    median or mean doesnt make sense when you have stupid +/- outliers who can affect the range...

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