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I'd like to see the award/trophy. I don't buy it. That just seems fraudulent. I want proof. I want to see a picture of Manu holding an Olympic MVP trophy.
It would seem counter to what the Olympics are about when it comes to team sports.
The (irony here!) Greek federation then made it so. just look here:
http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa...n/history.html
official FIBA site, and lo and behold, there is a column for MVP. and guess what is the only name in that column? Emanuel Ginobili.
So when comparing to other players, manu is so good that he compelled the greek basketball federation to give him an award that till then didnt exist.
as for being euroleague MVP, manu was not, but he was the 2001 Euroleague finals MVP
I'd like to see the award/trophy. I don't buy it. That just seems fraudulent. I want proof. I want to see a picture of Manu holding an Olympic MVP trophy.
It would seem counter to what the Olympics are about when it comes to team sports.
Who gives a about FIBA basketball!? The real game is in the NBA.
No.
Mythical awards are kept where such articles of faith belong, in the CoM.
what, so you think I hacked the FIBA site or something??!
Look, I agree that it is strange, and there probably isnt an actual statuette or trophy. But for whatever reason, someone in FIBA decided to proclaim Manu MVP of that tournament and they record it that way officially on their site. They made a column for it on their webpage just for him. Just go to FIBA.com, archive, HISTORY. and there it is. I dont see how it can get any more official than that.
Uh? Why?
It's up the the IGB/national federation to decide pretty much everything about their sports tournament, from the qualifying thresholds to small things like the existence (or not) of awards like the MVP. In Athens there was a MVP award in the basketball tournament and Manu won it. What's so difficult to understand about this?Ryan Miller Named Hockey Olympics MVP
American goaltender Ryan Miller has received a fitting recognition of his tournament-long brilliance on the rink, winning the Vancouver Olympics’ hockey tournament Most Valuable Player award. The 29-year-old had 36 saves during the gold-medal match, which the U.S. lost to host Canada in overtime. He was also instrumental in Team USA’s perfect run to the final, which included an elimination-round victory over the Canadians.
just to check, I looked up the women's tournament... they have a top scorer column and an mvp column, the top scorer is used since 96 (just like the men) but no MVPs...
this is easily the best proof that manu is the best ever, as NO ONE ELSE IN THE HISTORY OF BASKETBALL HAS THIS AWARD!!!
Lmao, guess that settles it then.
"Best basketball player ever" award to Manu.
You finally see the light.
so KBP are we suppose to take your words over nba.com and fiba.com?
Not sure if you know this, but after Allen Iverson, Manu has been my favorite NBA player over the past decade. And, that's in all honesty. If you followed my postings on this board in the past, you might know that. I love the way Manu plays basketball. I've made Manu collages on my photobucket account. I've had Manu in my sig before.
Challenging biased opinions regarding Manu in no way means I'm hating on Manu or that I don't like him. I will challenge pretty much challenge anything I find interesting if I think it's wrong.
Check your sarcasm detector.
Your response being sarcastic doesn't change my post.
I didn't know if you knew that.
I didn't know all the details, but it was obvious to me that you held Manu in high regard.
The sarcastic response was an attempt at humor in answer to your own sarcastic post. Sometimes humor doesn't translate in writing as well as it does verbally.
Unless it's prospect tape, I don't care what happens over there or in the olympics.
Even sweeter... Manu added to those the "I on the Entire Pistons Franchise" award in 05... LeBron has a couple of those too
What's with bitter Piston fan? This is not even a thread about Jordan...
And BTW, I believe Manu's 2004 MVP award came from FIBA, not the IOC. FIBA hands those in almost all tournaments they organize.
I believe this is correct. He wasn't named Olympics MVP by the Olympics committee.. KBP is right -- there are no official MVPs by the Olympics. However, I do think that FIBA named him MVP... either that or the FIBA writer wrote it in a symbolic sense and everyone just thinks he literally won an award.
FIBA awarding the Olympics MVP is no more or less symbolic than FIBA awarding the WC MVP or the NBA awarding a Finals MVP.
The same way that the FIA decides who are the track&field athletes participating in the Olympics or FINA decides what type of suit swimmers can wear.
I'm not sure if people understand what the IOC is.
Nice. When the Spurs win the championship this season, you can on me some more.Even sweeter... Manu added to those the "I on the Entire Pistons Franchise" award in 05... LeBron has a couple of those too
Calling me bitter is pretty funny. I'm a huge Manu Ginobili fan.
I'm also objective.
lol u mad?
Your posts the last 48 hours are ruining your reputation as a Manu fan... not that i have lost any respect on you though...
I still believe you're just having fun trolling some...
Not even Spanoulis??? !just to check, I looked up the women's tournament... they have a top scorer column and an mvp column, the top scorer is used since 96 (just like the men) but no MVPs...
this is easily the best proof that manu is the best ever, as NO ONE ELSE IN THE HISTORY OF BASKETBALL HAS THIS AWARD!!!
Nope. Thanks for caring though. I'm not the one who started personal attacks. I've been staying on topic.lol u mad?
Not trolling. I'm trying to have real, genuine discussion. Perhaps others are, but I'm not. And not once have I tried to ruin Manu's reputation or my reputation as a fan of Manu. I've given perspective. I really and truly am a huge Manu fan. What I do like to challenge though is over-the-top bias.Your posts the last 48 hours are ruining your reputation as a Manu fan... not that i have lost any respect on you though...
I still believe you're just having fun trolling some...
In the thread in the Spurs section, I gave a pretty objective opinion. Some people took it as that. Others took it as me trying to bash Manu. I introduced Toni Kukoc into the discussion to bring some perspective to the opinion that Manu is a lock for the NBA. You can take it how you want to take it.
At the end of the day, I think Manu has a good chance at the HOF, but my personal opinion is that it's in no way a lock. Most believe who believe it's a lock believe it is based on his international resume. That's the point I tried to give perspective to. If that's the case, Toni Kukoc has every bit the international resume Manu has, arguably better. But when you think of Toni Kukoc, you don't think at the top of your head that he's a lock for the HOF. Hopefully for some, that brings a little perspective to what I feel is a pretty biased belief that Manu is a HOF lock. If it doesn't, so be it.
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