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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Another A.J.?

    Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has been seeking a vocal leader, much like he had with fiery former guard Avery Johnson back in the good old days.

    Mild-mannered Tim Duncan certainly doesn't fit the role, but Manu Ginobili has taken on more vocal leadership since he's been starting. Popovich thinks George Hill has some Avery in him.

    "I want him to take more control," said Popovich of Hill. "I want him to be telling people where the to go on the court. I want him to tell me where the to go. I want him to start taking over. I want him to be Avery."
    Tom Enlund
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    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/88738262.html

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    Ballin' is a habit... TIMMYD!'s Avatar
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    What? I don't think he said that. Unless Pop was looking at the fonder memories of AJ.
    I think this was already on another article.

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    http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/quotes_100312.html

    On George Hill's play: "I want him to be more aggressive, I want him to take more control, I want him to be telling people where the to go on the court, I want him to tell me where the to go, and I want him to start taking over. I want him to be Avery [Johnson]. I realize it will take time, but that is what I want."

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    Senile - Pop can't remember what rotation he made 5 minutes ago, but he sure can remember players from his ancient past.

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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Thanks. I went as far back as the Clippers game where he let Hill 'coach'. I guess I should have gone back another game.

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    Does that mean he should attack Blair in the showers?

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    "i want pop to be more like pop i want him to have a of a lineup again i want him to be smarter about his trading and releasing, i gues what im saying is i want himt to be like poppovich out there"

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    i thought pop said parker was his avery. thinking about trading parker?

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    yeah like the Veterans on the squad will let some noob tell them where to go. lol

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    i thought pop said parker was his avery. thinking about trading parker?
    Pop just wants everyone to be more like Avery

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    are you sure he meant avery johnson and not william avery?


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    Pop just wants everyone to be more like Avery
    i think its avery-esque PGs he wants, in order to fulfill the command and playcalling role

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    Pop is a damn fool. He's always looking for the next, whatever. The next Robert Horry. The next Bruce Bowen. And he'll play guys out of position if it satisifies his quest. Once again, Pop overrates a player who he has had a hard-on for. Avery, Finley, Vaughn, Van Exel.

    Screw that. George Hill will NEVER be Avery. He's got way too much talent and not enough mouth and ego.

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    Avery could not shoot a three to save his fukkin life, I hope he is not the next Avery but FAR BETTER!!!!!!!!! He can be far better, he already is better at 23 or so talent wise, he can be far better IMO.

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    Screw that. George Hill will NEVER be Avery. He's got way too much talent and not enough mouth and ego.
    haha exactly!!!!
    i guess Hill will have to start playing tier from now on.

    its a joke that Averys jersey was retired.

    Hill is already surpassed him in everthing but mouth size and funny accent.

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    "Do they sell shrimp at your bank?"

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    "Do they sell shrimp at your bank?"
    lol. I've actually been looking for some fried okra.

    "You GOTTA have fried okra!"

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    some guys are just naturally vocal. i don't think Hill is one of them. i could be wrong.

    i like the way Manu has taken the role of being the vocal leader. he's stepped in in place of Bruce, who filled the role in the past. you need that. people always brag about Tim Duncan's calm demeanor and how he lets his play do the talking. that's all great, but you gotta have a vocal leader on the team, and sadly Bruce was never given enough credit for being that guy. it was all about Duncan and his quiet leadership (i'm not saying he's at fault for anything; moreso the media for overplaying that, and underplaying Bruce's role as vocal leader) i said earlier on in the season it's what the Spurs were lacking, among other things, of course. i didn't think anyone would step up, but Manu has really looked to be that guy. i don't know if he's always been like that, or if he subdued himself in prior years and let Bruce do the talking; but it's been great to see. the Spurs need it.

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    The task assigned by Pop to Hill is no easy one.

    Being the floor general orchestating the offense is one thing, but being the "vocal leader" can be different. For example, if you ask Hill, a second year player, to criticize some poor plays by e.g. RJ, Dice or Mason on court, I think it would not be beneficial to the team's chemistry. They might even have fallen out of the playoff race if Hill did that often. Unfortunately, sometimes these 2 roles are somewhat indistinguishable.

    I hope Pop only want Hill to take more of the former role. Even Manu started to take the latter role only after his game has improved recently.

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    some guys are just naturally vocal. i don't think Hill is one of them. i could be wrong.

    i like the way Manu has taken the role of being the vocal leader. he's stepped in in place of Bruce, who filled the role in the past. you need that. people always brag about Tim Duncan's calm demeanor and how he lets his play do the talking. that's all great, but you gotta have a vocal leader on the team, and sadly Bruce was never given enough credit for being that guy. it was all about Duncan and his quiet leadership (i'm not saying he's at fault for anything; moreso the media for overplaying that, and underplaying Bruce's role as vocal leader) i said earlier on in the season it's what the Spurs were lacking, among other things, of course. i didn't think anyone would step up, but Manu has really looked to be that guy. i don't know if he's always been like that, or if he subdued himself in prior years and let Bruce do the talking; but it's been great to see. the Spurs need it.
    This.

    That said, I think Pop is just trying to help Hill grow into a leadership role. If he starts saying things, even a little, it will continue the change in perception of Hill from a newbie to a veteran. Hill will never be a barker like AJ was, but its time he assumed a role as an equal. Props to Pop for wanting to make Hill the best all-around team player he can be.

    You can tell Pop's intents with the younger guys: Buildup Hill's sense of self-worth and keep Blair's in perspective and professional. It's all his read of their psyches. He won't let them develop the bad habits other older pros have.

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    He wants him to go coach the Mavs, get the best record in the NBA and then lose to an 8th seed.

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    Pop is a damn fool. He's always looking for the next, whatever. The next Robert Horry. The next Bruce Bowen. And he'll play guys out of position if it satisifies his quest. Once again, Pop overrates a player who he has had a hard-on for. Avery, Finley, Vaughn, Van Exel.

    Screw that. George Hill will NEVER be Avery. He's got way too much talent and not enough mouth and ego.
    LMFAO at the Vaughn hate. {note to posters : you've lost what little credibility you have on this forum when you trash NBA champion Jacque Vaughn}

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    Pop is a damn fool. He's always looking for the next, whatever. The next Robert Horry. The next Bruce Bowen. And he'll play guys out of position if it satisifies his quest. Once again, Pop overrates a player who he has had a hard-on for. Avery, Finley, Vaughn, Van Exel.

    Screw that. George Hill will NEVER be Avery. He's got way too much talent and not enough mouth and ego.
    So you'd rather Pop not try find the next Horry, or Bowen? Since you don't want the "damn fool" looking for replacements for Horry, and Bowen, you must be satisfied with Bogans and Bonner as adaquate replacements for Horry and Bowen. And I disagree with you that Pop overated Avery, Finley, Vaughn, Van Exel. None of these players were signed huge amounts of money, and other than Avery, none of these players you mentioned were expected to start, nor be anything other than role players. Some like Avery, and Finley, were productive role players, Vaughn was a good 3rd pg, a guy whose always been a solid pro, and who could teach the younger guys how to be a professional. Van Exel didn't work out, but Van Exel, like most of the veterans Pop has signed over years never broke the bank to sign them, and is a great, cost-effective way to sign older players who can still contribute to a team.

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    He needs to be vocal. He is the PG.

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    Yeah, when he's bringing the ball up, he does need to be able to quickly set up the play, so that there are more options before the end of the shot clock. Sometimes, that means you need to bark at a team mate to get them into the correct position.

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