You seem pretty insulted with that line. The same people get blamed for a reason. Ever think of that?
I hate Bogans. I just hate him, I can't stand him anymore in our team. I hate him, I wish him the best tho, but OUT OF THE SPURS.
I can't understand why Pop plays him. He can't stop anyone, NOT EVEN ONE, not even slowing them, he just brings nothing to SA. GTFO Bogans.
...I hate stupid threads like this blaming the entire loss on one player. The guy hit some big 3's and yes he missed some defensive rotations (like every other spurs did as well a couple of times).
I blame Pop more than I blame Bonner. The guy tries hard and is a useful rotation player but his coach always seems to put him in an overall position to fail.
Sure but I know better. The team made bad decisions on the defensive end down the stretch. GHill played bad again by playing to passive. Its a team game and the team blew it.
Did Bogans deserve 25 minutes tonight?
More Malik Hairston less Keith Bogans
Bonner didn't play that bad, yes he choked, but he does that enough to where it shouldn't be considered choking since it is what he always does. Ditto subpar rebounding. McDyess hasn't exactly been spectacular in fourth quarters this year himself.
All things considered, this might have been the clutchest performance of Matt Bonner's career. Seriously.
Playing on national TV killed the Spurs, playing against a credible team killed the Spurs, playing on the road killed the Spurs, playing in a tight game down the stretch killed the Spurs, the Spurs killed the Spurs, it's always something. The first one in particular, this team loves to embarrass themselves on national TV. No wonder the majority of non Spurs fans have constantly taken shots at this team for about three years now. Wouldn't you think a team is a joke if they looked as bad as this team does almost every time you saw them play?
This team is a bunch of (seemingly) good guys and a talented group, but they're a bunch of ing losers. We've seen this situation occur repeatedly this season and here we are in game number 67 and still no change? That tells us, inexplicably (because the pieces should be in place to pull out these types of game at at minimum a decent rate), that this group just can't get it done in tight games and this is why they're more than likely going to be eliminated in the first round within' 6 games at most. If you can't win close games, then you're not going anywhere in the playoffs.
No..But who else are you going to play? Hairston is not the answer, yes maybe he could have played about 3-5 more minutes but he is not much better and cannot shoot the 3..
His game in Boston last year trumps this one...
This implies Bogans can. Hold on for a second...
Why not? He is quicker, longer, more athletic and a better rebounder than Bogans. Had Hairston played all of Bogans minutes, this game would have been much easier...
Already answered that. Duncan blew a critical rotation and had a critical turnover on a inbounce play. Hill played bad on both ends. Manu also had a critical turnover. Like I said a team effort. Carelessness with the ball and D down the stretch.
Ok I'm all better. I would love to see Malik play more minutes. He can't be worse than Bogans. Just the fact that he hustles makes him more valuable than Bogans. Did you see how many times Bogans got blown by tonight?
This is not the year of the hairston!!maybe next season, it is bogans time..get over it
Hairston would have been ideal, Atlanta are full of athletic freaks.
Not really. All you said was he played bad. I'll take that as a "no he didn't deserve 25 minutes". With that being said, do you still think it's silly that people always blame the same guys for losses? Can you name me 5 good games Bogans has had in the last 20? I'll wait.
It is a team effort. It's just a shame when one guy has no effort. That brings the collective effort down.Duncan blew a critical rotation and had a critical turnover on a inbounce play. Hill played bad on both ends. Manu also had a critical turnover. Like I said a team effort. Carelessness with the ball and D down the stretch.
Hairston IS better than Bogans though, a lot better..
This is no longer a case of people like myself and others saying "let's see what Hairston can do"..he's been playing against the same compe ion as Bogans since he actually started getting minutes, and he's clearly looked significantly better..he's already shown he can play, there's nothing else left to see in the Bogans vs. Hairston argument..
Hairston still has A LOT to prove in the NBA and he might not be the answer to some of the Spurs problems, but he's clearly already proven that he's much better than Centerpiece..
Bogans is 5-17 from the field in his last 5 games..he shoots 32% from the field against teams that are .500 or better..he really KILLS this team, he doesn't have the quickness or athleticism to stay with anybody..
No thanks. I don't enjoy watching my team lose.This is not the year of the hairston!!maybe next season, it is bogans time..get over it
You're silly. Clearly when a team loses it's not any one player's fault. It's the team's loss, no matter how ty a player is who happens to get 25 minutes.
And hairston is the new "saviour"....Geez, losing definatly is taking its toll around here..
Dice can hit out to about 18. That's good enough.You don't get the spacing with Dice that you do with Bonner
And come on - what spacing? Teams leave Bonner open all the time. Go back to OT - Bonner's brick. No Hawk was within 10 feet of him. Why? They were more than happy to let him shoot.
Just like Dallas was last year when they smoked us, and just like anyone else will be this year if we even get to the playoffs.
Oh and the spacing argument is over-rated. David Robinson didn't space the floor. Bynum doesn't space it for Gasol. Kedrick Perkins doesn't space it for Garnett.
That spacing thing is something that worked well with Horry...but it's not like it's a staple of winning championships to have a 3 shooting PF. It's not a staple of Spurs offense either. In fact Horry is about the only one in history to do it.
Having a perimeter oriented bigman works great when you have a bigman drawing doubles...Duncan doesn't do that much anymore so the tactic isn't as effective and it's not as important as it used to be.
Time to turn the page on the 3 shooting PF as a key to the offense and get back to a more traditional line up.
Sure it wokrs situationally(situation being Duncan pulling multiple defenders or the defense clogging the paint).....it's damn sure not some essential must have part of winning basketball though.
He's not a savior. He's just better than the current guy who still, inexplicably, gets 25 minutes.And hairston is the new "saviour"
TO's and boards gave us a loss we could little afford. It will take a Herculean effort to win tomorrow. Obviously someone other than the big two will have to step up.
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