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Drexler
He can do the catch and behind the back pass on the break without dribbling the ball
Or traveling
Ok Wade?
Wade is a better shooter though
But Clyde was a freaking athlete
I dont know too difficult
I was arguing with my friend about this. I've seen Clyde play and he was a fantastic player and a ridiculous athlete. But D-wade is far more skilled and a better playmaker than Drexler was. What do you guys think?
Drexler
He can do the catch and behind the back pass on the break without dribbling the ball
Or traveling
Ok Wade?
Wade is a better shooter though
But Clyde was a freaking athlete
I dont know too difficult
Clyde. The guy could walk on air
Not necessarily fair with Wade only being 6 1/2 seasons into his career. That's probably only about half of his career. I agree with lefty. This is actually a pretty tough call. Drexler was a freak athlete just like Wade. And he was probably a smoother player that Dwyane. Wade is a little more explosive but it's actually close. By the end of Wade's career, i could see them both being viewed similarly. But even if Wade doesn't get any more individual accolades the rest of his career, he'll still have that NBA Finals MVP that probably trumps Drexler's best individual award. If you look at both of their best individual seasons, they're actually pretty similar numbers. I'd go with Wade with that 2006 Finals run as the trump card. But I think it's pretty close right now. Wade can have a spectacular second half to his career to make it an easier decision, but right now, it's pretty close.
wade. by miles. the glide was effective but was not on dwayne's level.
Scoring-Wade
Rebounding-Wade
Ballhandling- Wade
Playmaking-Wade
NBA Finals MVP- Wade
Come on. No offense to the great Clyde Drexler, but he is nowhere near Wade as a player. Legacy wise then its close but skills wise Wade wins in a landslide.
DWade and Drexler are eerily similar...
Late 80's and early 90's Clyde was an unbelievable athlete. He could get to the rim at will. His one glaring weakness was his inconsistency shooting the 3. His 2 best seasons were 87-88 and 88-89 where he averaged over 27ppg both years, shooting 50% (at shooting guard) 7 rebounds, 5.8 assists, 2.5 steals, and around .6 blocks. His assist numbers improved to nearly 7 per game as the years went on.
Reads just like Dwade even down to the 3pter being his one glaring weakness. Although Drexler didn't have injury issues until his 9th year in the league, and that was during a much rougher era in the NBA where guys who went hard to the rim like Drexler paid the price for it getting mugged in the process.
At this point Drexler is my pick, but if Wade gets back to the Finals again in his career I will probably change my mind.
No. This is a push.
no.Rebounding-Wade
Again, no.Wade wins in a landslide.
I'd take Wade for the same reasons Jamstone articulated, but it's not a "landslide." Come on. These are two of the most similar star players in the history of basketball.
Gay debate. Wade all the way
please
So much blind, -in-your-mouth homerism right here, I don't care who you pick neither wins by a landslide
I'll go with Clyde. Of course I'm biased though. I had season tix for all of his years with the Blazers.
Wade
If Wade continues his level of play then at the end of his career Wade. But for now I have to say Drexler
I agree. Drexler was probably underrated because the "gap" between him and Mj was pretty wide. But you put drexler vs the other great 2 guards of the past 20 years (kobe, Miller Wade) and maybe only kobe is definitively better ...
but Like jamstone says here the Finals run means a lot to me.
Drexler got his ring as the secondary star on a good Rockets team that had won the year before wITHOUT him. So Wade gets the nod there.
Drexler played on some pretty talented teams that was beaten soundly by a great Pistons squad in the early 90's but ALSO upset by the Lakers in 91 by an inferior Lakers squad ...when they were considered the best team in the NBA. and should of had back to back to back finals appearances instead of the only 2 they have had since winning it all in '77.
Fair or not that series loss was on Clyde ...the Lakers that year was running on fumes and the will of Magic who was on the tail end of his prime. i like Clyde but think he lacked that alpha dog gene needed to carry a team to a le ...
But as i wa sposting this clyde though was probaly one of the best secondary stars on a le team in thh past 20 years along with kobe, Scottie, Kg, or Pierce (depending on view), Manu. Grea t player.
Wade is a bigger "star" but as many have said should only be halfway through his career ...
agree with this as well ...good post.
Wade was more a product of the rule changes that catered to opening up perimeter offense and TV ratings. Skill-wise, side by side, Drexler wins.
It's not a coincident that we are seeing perimeter players dominating today's game, while the big man has dominated for the 50 years before that.
Don't let me being a fan of portland make you think I'm being biased on this one, but wade is a extremely good ball player. But drexler is the better of the two as of now.. like LL said wade gets him on the whistles and that's bout it.. I see no way wade would play a full season with the abuse he would be getting trying to manuever in the lane to the basket... ok maybe I'm a little biased.
This. Different story with Wade if he had to deal with hand checks and physical perimeter defense that was allowed before Stern decided to turn the NBA into a shooting guard's league. The fact Wade averages 1 more free throw attempted per game than Jordan did just shows how soft the league has gotten on wings.
Drexler was more versatile. He could play 3 different positions(pg,sg and sf) at an all star level.
Wade's peak is/will be better.
It's really close.
Its not a push Bob. Wade is a better playmaker than Clyde. Drexler was your typical shooting guard of the 90s. He was a good passer surrounded by great teammates, so he's not necessarily a great playmaker. Ive seen Clyde play in his prime, and i was a huge fan of his game in the 90's and I would say with conviction that Wade's playmaking abilities are above and beyond better than Drexler.
I would say that rebounding is a push. They were both pretty efficient rebounder as a guard.
Ive always viewed Drexler as a talented guard that never had much success as the 1st option. IMO, Wade seperates himself from Drexler in that regards due to the fact that Wade has won a le as the undisputed 1st option while logging in the best PER among guards in NBA history not named Michael Jordan. In the regular season and playoffs btw.
Just look at their career advanced statistics as well, Wade easily trumps Drexler in that category. Like I said, if we are to include their legacies as of this moment then Drexler's career levels things out, but in terms of pure skills, Wade is the better player than Clyde. Wade is in the same breath as Kobe, now if you guys think Kobe, Wade and Clyde are all even in that sense, then I dont have a porblem with that.
You can say that to every perimter player in this era and diminish their greatness (Kobe, Lebron, Durant) that's just foolish. All of those players would dominate any era given the chance. They were faster, quicker, stronger and much more explosive than any perimiter player in the 90's.
this is actually as close as it gets. wade is pretty much this generations version of drexler.
id MAYBE give the SLIGHT edge to wade for MAYBE having better leadership and playmaking skills.
Yes, I am saying that with regards to every single perimeter player who are playing today, which is why I think Kobe and Durant are both wildly overrated in the context of their historical standings. Lebron is a different animal, as his physical abilities would just allow him to plough through his defender no matter what era he plays in.
And yes, I believe Wade, Kobe and Durant can still play very well in the late 80s, just no average 30 ppg year in and year out.
This is simply misinformation. Drexler was in no way your typical shooting guard in the 90s when it came to play-making. I think some people forget that he was actually quite skilled in play-making and passing. Look at the other better 2-guards in the 80s and early 90s, George Gervin, Rolando Blackman, Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, Joe Dumars, Reggie Miller... none of those guys were better than 4-5 APG type of guards. Drexler routinely put up 6+ APG seasons. He went a full season averaging 8 APG. That's not typical for the 90s or for any era for a shooting guard.
The main difference between Drexler as a play-maker and Dwyane Wade as a play-maker is that Drexler eventually got a true point guard in Terry Porter that ended up taking much of that responsibility while Wade continues to act and always has acted since midway through his rookie year as the main facilitator for the Heat. Wade even brings up the ball much of the time. Drexler relinquished quite a bit play-making responsibility to Porter, and Drexler still averaged around 5 APG when that happened.
Wade probably has a more natural ability to be a play-maker because he has a better handle and probably has better vision, but don't sell Drexler short when it comes to play-making and passing. It's certainly not a landslide.
For someone who considered it a landslide in play-making for Wade, this is a ridiculous statement. Drexler was by far a superior rebounder. Bigger, taller, longer, and probably just as athletic. Drexler was the better rebounder and the stats support that assertion. It's not even arguable. Now, would you like to take into consideration that Wade is shorter and that Drexler sometimes would slide down to small forward? Sure, but you're entering into a conversation of excuses and reasons why Drexler was better. He still was the better rebounder.I would say that rebounding is a push. They were both pretty efficient rebounder as a guard.
Here's where history is lost. Drexler as the main option led his Blazers to two NBA Finals before he went on to win one in Houston with Hakeem. I would agree and most people would that Wade's 2006 le run shows a peak in careers that probably gives Wade an edge. But it's pretty silly to suggest Drexler didn't have much success as the main option. Drexler was the reason the Blazers were contenders for many years in the late 80s and early 90s. As the main option, he had as much success as any other shooting guard in his era after Michael Jordan. He didn't have the ultimate success. But to say he didn't have much success is pretty silly.Ive always viewed Drexler as a talented guard that never had much success as the 1st option. IMO, Wade seperates himself from Drexler in that regards due to the fact that Wade has won a le as the undisputed 1st option while logging in the best PER among guards in NBA history not named Michael Jordan. In the regular season and playoffs btw.
Is there a reason why you go to advanced stats and skip the actual stats that are actually similar? Wade does more for his teams than Drexler had to do for his. That's not debatable. And Wade has yet to his the late part of his career where decline brings down stats. Drexler never missed the playoffs in Portland. Never had a what 15 win season like Wade did as the main option to the team. Drexler never had the lows in his career Wade already has had.Just look at their career advanced statistics as well, Wade easily trumps Drexler in that category. Like I said, if we are to include their legacies as of this moment then Drexler's career levels things out, but in terms of pure skills, Wade is the better player than Clyde. Wade is in the same breath as Kobe, now if you guys think Kobe, Wade and Clyde are all even in that sense, then I dont have a porblem with that.
In terms of pure skill, it's still close. In terms of overall career, they're right around the same level. With a few more seasons, Wade could easily separate himself. But, if Wade has more seasons like the last two where he puts up nice, pretty numbers but his teams is mediocre to bad and are lottery teams or first round exit playoff teams, he'll actually look more like Clyde, only with a higher peak in his career with that 2006 le. Neither Wade or Clyde is on Kobe's level at the moment. Wade can get there. He's not there. Multiple champion. League MVP. Finals MVP. Perennial all NBA and all NBA defensive. Hate or envy all you want, Wade is not at that level yet.
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