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    Do you think the law was intended to be use this way?
    There is no law to be used any way.

    You can say "There oughtta be a law" but if there isn't a law, there isn't a law.

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    Do you think the law was intended to be use this way? Don't be ing stupid. If she broke her arm, cut her knee, bruised her thigh,etc...her parents would have been notified.

    This really is sad. I can't believe anyone could think that a 15 year old is emotionally prepared to go through something as tramatic as an abortion without counsel and love and support from her parents.
    +1. This is disturbing. What is worse is they think they are helping her.

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    For instance, if someone thinks me spanking my kid is wrong then maybe they should go to a state that protects children from discipline and love.
    You hit your children out of love.

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    For instance, if someone thinks me spanking my kid is wrong then maybe they should go to a state that protects children from discipline and love.
    "Someone" can say whatever he wants. If you don't like it maybe you should move.

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    This really is sad. I can't believe anyone could think that a 15 year old is emotionally prepared to go through something as tramatic as an abortion without counsel and love and support from her parents.
    Ultimately it was her choice. She could have just as easily talked to her parents if she wanted to. They're loving and supporting parents after all, right?

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    What's even more disturbing than this story is all the people on this forum who have no problem with it. This country is going to ...

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    What's even more disturbing than this story is all the people on this forum who have no problem with it. This country is going to ...

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    Damn hippies.

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    What's even more disturbing than this story is all the people on this forum who have no problem with it. This country is going to ...
    I agree there oughtta be a law. But if you claim to respect privacy and the rule of law, there isn't much about which to be outraged.

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    Do you think the law was intended to be used this way?
    Actually, states without parental consent laws are often intentionally set up so that girls can make the choice when they know their parents will not approve or consent.

    What's even more disturbing than this story is all the people on this forum who have no problem with it.
    Have issue with the lawmakers of the state. My post is pointing out that no one had to notify her parents. Specifically, if she did not want them notified, they would be abiding by her rights to privacy.

    Just because I point out the legal aspect does not mean I agree with it.

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    edit: after actually reading the op, that's pretty ed up for a school to do.


    I couldn't care less about the teen aborting johnny, but no need to make a field trip out of it.

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    Do you think the law was intended to be use this way? Don't be ing stupid. If she broke her arm, cut her knee, bruised her thigh,etc...her parents would have been notified.

    This really is sad. I can't believe anyone could think that a 15 year old is emotionally prepared to go through something as tramatic as an abortion without counsel and love and support from her parents.
    That is how the liberals here on the left coast do things. It is so they can intentionally cir vent the parents.

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    +1. This is disturbing. What is worse is they think they are helping her.
    Yep, in their own lib ed way.

    There was a case some years back over here. I don't recall all the details, but the school nurse was giving a Jr. High school girl hormonal birth control. This was perfectly legal. She died from some drug interactions or complications because of what her regular doctor prescribed. The parents sued the school district. I don't recall ever hearing the results.

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    Ultimately it was her choice. She could have just as easily talked to her parents if she wanted to. They're loving and supporting parents after all, right?
    Children are not old enough to make such decisions by themselves. It may have been legal, but it should be criminal, what they did.

    Liberals love immoral laws.

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    Children are not old enough to make such decisions by themselves. It may have been legal, but it should be criminal, what they did.

    Liberals love immoral laws.
    This law will get fixed. Honestly, most people love liberals BULL "causes" and "morals" until they see their work in action first hand.

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    The "family" is an outdated concept, nothing but a subsection of the patriarchy, which would not exist if not for the cancer of religion. Disagree and you hate women and children.

    I'll save you the trouble of reading the feminist blog takes on this story.

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    Children are not old enough to make such decisions by themselves. It may have been legal, but it should be criminal, what they did.
    Parental consent used to be required, but was ruled uncons utional by the State Supreme Court in State v. Koome (1975). And BTW, legal abortions in Washington state were voted on (Referendum 20, 1970) and passed with 56.5% of the votes. So what you have here has nothing to do with 'lib politicians', but mere popular will.

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    What's even more disturbing than this story is all the people on this forum who have no problem with it. This country is going to ...
    remove the stick from your ass, grandma.

    "It's an outrage, that you libs aren't outraged!!"

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    Ugh. Even as a pro-choicer, this story is damn disturbing.
    Agreed. This definitely crosses a line.

    I think it'd be one thing if the girl decided to do it herself. But the school helping her, and not informing her parents, is shady to me.

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    Agreed. This definitely crosses a line.

    I think it'd be one thing if the girl decided to do it herself. But the school helping her, and not informing her parents, is shady to me.
    Definitely.

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    Parental consent used to be required, but was ruled uncons utional by the State Supreme Court in State v. Koome (1975).
    Forgive me for not understanding all the legal ramifications, but does striking down parental consent equate to granting minors the right to consent to abortions? And what's the age in Washington where you can consent to sex? Seems awfully messed up to me if the situation in Washington is that children who don't have a legal right to consent to have sex do have a legal right to consent to an abortion. Don't get me wrong, I'm a states rights guy so Washington can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned, but damn. That's just messed up if that's what's going on.

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    Forgive me for not understanding all the legal ramifications, but does striking down parental consent equate to granting minors the right to consent to abortions?
    From what I could find in a quick search:

    14 states are without parental consent or notification laws.

    11 other states mandate parental notification but do not require parental consent.

    In all these states, it appears that the girl can give the consent herself. Not only does this apply to abortion, but to other types of reproductive medical services from what I could gather.

    It probably surprises some people that in half the states, the parents do not have to give permission for their minor daughter to get an abortion.

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    From what I could find in a quick search:

    14 states are without parental consent or notification laws.

    11 other states mandate parental notification but do not require parental consent.

    In all these states, it appears that the girl can give the consent herself. Not only does this apply to abortion, but to other types of reproductive medical services from what I could gather.

    It probably surprises some people that in half the states, the parents do not have to give permission for their minor daughter to get an abortion.
    Thanks for the research. Count me amongst the surprised.

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    Forgive me for not understanding all the legal ramifications, but does striking down parental consent equate to granting minors the right to consent to abortions? And what's the age in Washington where you can consent to sex? Seems awfully messed up to me if the situation in Washington is that children who don't have a legal right to consent to have sex do have a legal right to consent to an abortion. Don't get me wrong, I'm a states rights guy so Washington can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned, but damn. That's just messed up if that's what's going on.
    I couldn't find much on the actual ruling. I would have loved to read the judges opinions on the case. The only thing I found was some passing verbiage that explains the basis of the ruling:
    "Because the cons utional rights of minors are coextensive with the cons utional rights of adults, a minor's privacy right to an abortion cannot be subjected to an absolute parental veto" - State vs Koome, 530 P.2d 260 (1975)

    From here

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    You hit your children out of love.
    Yes. I also yell at my kids for making too much noise. I like to kill people to show that killing other people is wrong.

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