Californians to vote on legal weed

[Wild Cobra]

Typing in that size font needs to be illegal.

No kidding. Hurts my eyes.

Weed is a natural gift from God, and should be legal.

[Wild Cobra]

California voters surprised the out of me when they shot down gay marriage. So I really don't have a feel for whether this will pass or not.

That didn't surprise me at all. There are even gay people against special rights.

I expect them to pass the bill. Afterall, all types of people smoke it. Many just won't admit it.

Think about this also. Do you think there are very many people who at least don't know of someone who does smoke it?

[EmptyMan]

Lower crime lol. Have fun getting gangbanged by your bordering states thugs Cali.

Looking forward to seeing the effects. Hope they pass it.

[Winehole23]

Not that I don't find farthole endearing, I do. I just think gashole is a better name.

[Wild Cobra]

Not that I don't find farthole endearing, I do. I just think gashole is a better name.

Does wine give you gas?

[Winehole23]

Not usually, but it can.

[Winehole23]

Beer's the worst, for me.

[coyotes_geek]

That didn't surprise me at all. There are even gay people against special rights.

???

There are gays who view gay marriage as a special right? I thought the whole gay marriage issue was about being treated equally, not specially.

The measure failed, so obviously someone out there was against it. I just find it odd that there would be gays opposed to gay marriage.

[Winehole23]

I don't find anything that WC proposes odd anymore.

It seems dissonant to say almost everything WC says stands out for its passionate eccentricity, but if that is really the case, what is really standing out?

[Winehole23]

What would be odd would be for WC to say something completely uncontroversial and boring.

[Spurminator]

Beer's the worst, for me.

Especially homebrew.

[Trainwreck2100]

???

There are gays who view gay marriage as a special right? I thought the whole gay marriage issue was about being treated equally, not specially.

The measure failed, so obviously someone out there was against it. I just find it odd that there would be gays opposed to gay marriage.

He didn't say marriage he said special rights, ie some gays don't want laws specifically written for gays.

California voters surprised the out of me when they shot down gay marriage. So I really don't have a feel for whether this will pass or not.

Those same catholic mexicans that voted for the prop 8 will vote for the weed though

[coyotes_geek]

He didn't say marriage he said special rights, ie some gays don't want laws specifically written for gays.



Those same catholic mexicans that voted for the prop 8 will vote for the weed though

Fair enough. I admit I don't have much of a finger on the pulse of the California voter. Thanks for the insight.

[MannyIsGod]

What makes you so sure enforcement has ceased or will shortly under Obama?

I'm not completely sure they would expand that to this sort of legislation but it would be interesting to see. The SC has already ruled against the states regarding these laws so until legislation is passed at the federal level they operate under the prayer the feds won't come after them. Bush's justice department went after them very hard, so I'm assuming the next conservative would do the same.

[whottt]

I'm not completely sure they would expand that to this sort of legislation but it would be interesting to see. The SC has already ruled against the states regarding these laws so until legislation is passed at the federal level they operate under the prayer the feds won't come after them. Bush's justice department went after them very hard, so I'm assuming the next conservative would do the same.

And that's a bad assumption on your part.

How come your congress and Pres don't take the same approach with MJ they just took with health care?

[whottt]

California voters surprised the out of me when they shot down gay marriage. So I really don't have a feel for whether this will pass or not.

They shot down gay marriage with the help of the African American block. And Obama doesn't support gay marriage either. Mentioned something about his christian views

[spursncowboys]

Since when can states ignore a federal law? Its not their job to prosecute those laws. If the feds want to prosecute people in violation of federal law no court is going to throw it out.

Pretty sure the Obama administration ins't going to prosecute anyone for this if it passes though. Its the Feds ignoring federal law, not the states. If we see a conservative come to power again we'd see prosecutions again. Of that I'm sure of.

There shouldn't be a law then. Our culture respects laws. The idea is to have minimum laws, unlike say Italy which has a law for every aspect of their lives and enforces few.

[Wild Cobra]

There are gays who view gay marriage as a special right? I thought the whole gay marriage issue was about being treated equally, not specially.

Changing the historical definition makes it a special right.

The measure failed, so obviously someone out there was against it. I just find it odd that there would be gays opposed to gay marriage.

They are there.

[Wild Cobra]

What would be odd would be for WC to say something completely uncontroversial and boring.

Glad I can keep you amused.

[baseline bum]

Changing the historical definition makes it a special right.

Polygamy is the historical definition.

[Wild Cobra]

Polygamy is the historical definition.

Two different things. However, maybe we should make polygamy legal?

Look at all the single mothers out there on government assistance. If some guy can support more than one wife, then let him rather than the government. I think that's socially why polygamy started. A man had as many wives as he could support as most men had a hard enough time supporting himself. A father wasn't going to give his daughters hand to a poor man.

[baseline bum]

Of course polygamy should be legal, as should gay marriage. Gay marriage is no more a special right than is the redefined concept of marriage as between two consenting adults of opposite sex.

[Wild Cobra]

Of course polygamy should be legal, as should gay marriage. Gay marriage is no more a special right than is the redefined concept of marriage as between two consenting adults of opposite sex.

So we disagree. How about we leave it at that. This is a worn out debate that will probably never be resolved in our lifetimes.

[Blake]

Changing the historical definition makes it a special right.

I don't think it's a special right as much as it is an extra right.

All men have the same right to marry women. To allow all men the legal right to marry other men would be an extra right.

Just a technicality, imo.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't think it's a special right as much as it is an extra right.

All men have the same right to marry women. To allow all men the legal right to marry other men would be an extra right.

Just a technicality, imo.

I can agree with the technicality. I have often argued it is not a law that discriminates because gay men can still marry women, and gay women can still marry men. That too is a technicality, but there is nothing discriminatory about marriage.

Marriage is not needed for two people to love one another. Any legal issues that cannot be contracted between two people should be addressed rather than changing what we accept as marriage.