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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I find this rather amusing.

    A new Bloomberg Poll finds that more than 90% of Tea Party backers say the United States "is verging more toward socialism than capitalism, the federal government is trying to control too many aspects of private life and more decisions should be made at the state level."

    At the same time, 70% of those who sympathize with the Tea Party "want a federal government that fosters job creation."

    Said pollster Ann Selzer: "The ideas that find nearly universal agreement among Tea Party supporters are rather vague. You would think any idea that involves more government action would be anathema, and that is just not the case."
    http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Polit...eate_jobs.html

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    the tea partyers think Palin is qualified to be President, till they get off that schnide nobody should take them seriously.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    You have to take them seriously because they make up a sizable segment of the American voting bloc. Now, of course no Tea Party will win a major election (I'm sure they could steal a state seat here or there) but they can definitely have an affect on the conservative candidates.

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    You have to take them seriously because they make up a sizable segment of the American voting bloc. Now, of course no Tea Party will win a major election (I'm sure they could steal a state seat here or there) but they can definitely have an affect on the conservative candidates.
    Really? Do you actually have numbers?

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    A new Bloomberg Poll finds that more than 90% of Tea Party backers say the United States "is verging more toward socialism than capitalism, the federal government is trying to control too many aspects of private life and more decisions should be made at the state level."

    At the same time, 70% of those who sympathize with the Tea Party "want a federal government that fosters job creation."


    I see no contradiction in this. A large, regulatory federal government, that is all but hostile toward business is NOT one that "fosters job creation".

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    But, I'm glad that Manny is easily amused.

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    Where were these dumbasses when Bush was invading private lives and tapping phones with the Patriot Act? Slurping his that's where. It's ridiculous, other than the health care bill, the Obama administration has done absolutely jack in regards to peoples private lives.

    No anti-gay marriage none of that .

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    Where was I when Bush was invading private lives and tapping phones with the Patriot Act? Slurping his that's where.

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    That doesn't even make sense.

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    I see no contradiction in this. A large, regulatory federal government, that is all but hostile toward business is NOT one that "fosters job creation".
    Neither do I.

    A new Bloomberg Poll finds that more than 90% of Tea Party backers say the United States "is verging more toward socialism than capitalism, the federal government is trying to control too many aspects of private life and more decisions should be made at the state level."
    Those who participate in the Tea Party functions want government to stop controlling our lives.
    At the same time, 70% of those who sympathize with the Tea Party "want a federal government that fosters job creation."
    That is perfectly in line with "promote the general welfare."

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    You have to take them seriously because they make up a sizable segment of the American voting bloc. Now, of course no Tea Party will win a major election (I'm sure they could steal a state seat here or there) but they can definitely have an affect on the conservative candidates.
    Most of them are Republican anyway, so it's not really a threat to democrats that it is to in bent Republicans like McCain in Neveda...

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    the best quote that sums up those numbers are " Keep your Goddamn Government hands off my medicare!". contradictions all around.

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    So now it's contradictory for people to believe that a smaller federal government would be better at fostering job creation?

    Uh, no.

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    If the current Two Santa Claus pattern holds, it actually is contradictory. The current party of "smaller government" is a dedicated Two Santa Claus user. (Witness, the GOP demagoging an end to certain Medicare overpayments as *cuts*.)

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    They don't want smaller government. They want a government that enforces what they want and only what they want. I think its ing those of you trying to play this off as anything else. Then again look who I'm talking about. The next insightful post form Darrin will be the first.

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    If the current Two Santa Claus pattern holds, it actually is contradictory. The current party of "smaller government" is a dedicated Two Santa Claus user. (Witness, the GOP demagoging an end to certain Medicare overpayments as *cuts*.)
    Exactly.

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    Tea Party is still partly its own thing, tho I suspect (very many) of them are Republican voters at heart.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    They're disillusioned republican voters at heart. While they may claim to be disillusioned because this country is headed toward socialism (HAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH) I think it has more to do with other factors not the least of which is there isn't one of their good ole boys in the big office right now.

    Really, I think they're going to do far more harm to the GOP than any good. Remember Clinton was only elected because of Ross Perot. (And for that matter Bush was probably only elected because of Ralph Nader)

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    Still, I hope they vote for somebody beside the (R)s and (D)s. For once in their lives to vote for their actual beliefs, rather than just voting for power and pelf.

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    I'm glad you linked it because I had no ing clue what that was.

    In any event the core of the tea party's beliefs isn't smaller government so be careful what you wish for. Where a tea party candidate runs they'll just siphon votes off of a GOP candidate. Makes me happy.

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    I'm glad you linked it because I had no ing clue what that was.

    In any event the core of the tea party's beliefs isn't smaller government so be careful what you wish for. Where a tea party candidate runs they'll just siphon votes off of a GOP candidate. Makes me happy.
    Both parties, in fact every party wants a big government. They just want it in different ways. Democrats want regulation in business and general welfare, Republicans want huge tax cuts and a larger department of defense.

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    "large, regulatory federal government, that is all but hostile toward business"

    You Lie

    The federal govt is captured by corporate and capitalist interests.

    The water, the land, the air is polluted by corporations, and jobs are destroyed by corporations, the financial system s over Americans and the planet, and You Lie the St Ronnie The Sicko Lie that the federal govt is THE PROBLEM

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    WH, that's not the point. For those tea partiers who want tax cuts from the GOP Santa but none of the spending cuts, sure. But that's not what the OP said.

    Again, how is it contradictory? It's only contradictory if you make assumptions. About the people ("they ALL want you to keep the government's hands off their Medicare, lol!") or the policies advocated ("fostering job creation necessarily means an active federal government guiding economic decisionmaking, so they MUST be confused or hypocritical!").

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    I think the actual number of tea party sympathizers amongst the voting people is seriously exaggerated.

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    It's very au courant for pissed off Republicans to say they're libertarian, or cons utionalist or whatever; but in 2012 the thing to do will be voting for big government Republicans, on pain of excommunication from the movement, because the opposition is worse.

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