, I miss Finley. And thats ing sad. Really sad.
...Probably for the 1000th time, bogans is not a scorer. Damn, choose another NBA team already
Maybe...but for now how about quit being such a downer and support ALL the spurs...
no. I rather have Bogans. Bogans is overplayed but he's not getting the minutes Finley usually gets. At least lately.
Oh ok Spurs fan police. I know he's not a scorer, but he's sure as not a defender either. Just because a player sucks at the offensive end doesn't mean he's a good defender. There have been maybe 3 games this season where Bogans has come close to making up for his offensive deficiencies (tonight wasn't one of them) with his defense. The games where he's actually not a liability are the ones where he scores because his defense is so rarely stellar.
And basketball is played at both ends of the court. I think stupid Spurs fans who don't understand basketball well (read: YOU) have watched Bruce Bowen for years and figure that you can put any person into that role and it doesn't matter how well they spread the floor or what they do on offense. Bowen in his first few years here was nowhere near a great offensive player but he was already far better than what Bogans is now. He could spread the floor much better and rarely tried to do too much. As he developed more of an offensive game he tended to try to drive too much at times but all in all there was a net gain in his offensive ability even though he got into trouble at times. Bogans frequently tries to do far too much with the ball on the offensive end and is no where near the shooter that Bowen ever was.
So what we have now is a player who comes no where near the level of the previous defender and can't match the same offensive stature either. Thats a serious ing problem when he's trying to fill the same role effectively.
It makes zero sense to keep putting this guy on the floor for major minutes when 9 out of 10 games he does more harm than good. It is seriously debatable as to whether or not he's the 3rd best wing defender on this team (George Hill is better, and Harriston may well be a better defender too) and people in here want to act as though he's some kind of defensive lynchpin just because Pop has a running case of senility regarding his rotation at the 2/3.
But yeah, I get it, he's not an offensive player. Wake me up when he's any kind of player.
No. I'm sorry that some people here don't want to spoon feed images of pretty pink ponys and butterflys dancing in fields of rainbows. Some of us actually prefer the truth.Maybe...but for now how about quit being such a downer and support ALL the spurs...
Out of 99 SGs in the NBA, Bogans is ranked 11th in PER.
Well, 11th from the bottom anyway.
In +/- on the Spurs Bogans is ranked 10th.
Just to give you a frame of reference, the last 2 years Bowen was an actual rotation player (this is not counting last year) he was 5th and 2nd on the team in +/-.
There is absolutely no reason to use Bogans at this point. Even if you believe his defense is above average (which makes you fairly re ed in my book) the fact of a matter is that he is a net loss which makes it irrelevant.
I agree. I hate it when some of these fans say we're horrible fans because we all dont follow the delusional behavior that the spurs are always contenders and that all the players are worth giving a damn about.
I still hate KB and if he is on the team next year, someone needs to be fired.
Bogans had one of the most impressive defensive performances out of any Spurs this season and it was against Jamison and James.
He can't guard everybody but he seems to do well against those guys and Wade. Unfortunately for the Spurs they don't have very many options when it comes to defending perimeter players but Bogans still brings in defensive hustle, 3 point shot, and moves without the ball better than guys like Mason Jr. and actually cuts to the basket once in a while.
Not bad for a cheap player.
Gettin' 'Fierce' . . .
he still blows....one game out 10 that he plays decent
Bogans didn't really do anything against Lebron..he blew by him whenever he wanted to..I don't expect him to be able to defend Lebron though..
His fronting against Jamison was good D though, like I said before, he deserves credit for that..
I wouldn't use Wade as example, he couldn't get anything going against Jefferson, Manu or Hill either..
Props to KB. I think we're finally seeing what Bogans' game consists of. He is a little mini-compact power forward in a SG body who can use his lower center of gravity to bully taller, larger players. Call it a 'niche' defensive role but could be valuable come playoff time.
Did you watch the game or have stats when Bogans was actually on the court since he only played 22 mins while James and Jamison played over 37 mins?
Its hard to quantify his effort and hustle. Doesn't always work but I haven't seen Jamison get that frustrated in a long while.
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