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    Lmao. That is all.

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    lies!

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    I would also rank Tom Heinsohn, John Havlicek, Robert Parish, and Dennis Johnson above Tim Duncan.
    Where are Cornbread Maxwell and Gerald Henderson!!?!?!

    Legends, I tell you!

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    more proof that david top 50 player >tim duncan not even on list

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    Duncan also won all those les without a bunch of hall of fame teammates.
    By the time it's said and done Duncan will probably have had at least 1 HOF teamate on every one of his teams, and probably 2 others on several of them. So that's not really an accurate claim.

    If Manu retired today he'd make the HOF due to his career body of work if not totally his NBA career.

    Parker will probably make the HOF too.

    I'd argue that Horry deserves to be in the HOF even though he probably won't be. Anyone that thinks he didn't make more contributions to more championship teams than anyone of his era is delusional.

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    No less than Charles Barkley, NBA Hall of Famer, has said repeatedly on TNT over the years that Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play the game, ahead of himself and Karl Malone. So who's opinion carries more weight -- an NBA Hall of Famer who played the same position, and played against Tim, calling Tim "the best PF ever", or a Chowd fishhack who spouts overglazed opinions and never dribbled a ball professionally?

    Is Tim NBA Top 10 all-time? Depends on perspective. If I want a power forward listed in my all-time top 10, I take Tim Duncan every time until someone better comes along, which hasn't happened yet. However, for Chowd to dismiss him as being unworthy of consideration is to be so moronic that the opinion is invalid.

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    McHale and both Malones > Duncan? Zero credibility.

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    It should be more insulting that he didn't even mention 5-0 in his arguments, but I'm used to it by now..David is the most underrated player of all-time with today's NBA fans and coverage IMO..all they remember is the Hakeem series..

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    I would expect a higher standard of work from the great Jackie Moon.
    You think perhaps these two are related?


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    always was waiting for him to write: "I'm just kidding. Its April 1st folks....Uh damn, its summer time"...but it didnt happen...This guy should be fireded if SI want to save some credebility.

    I will avoid SI.com for the next 6 month coz of this stupid article alone...

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    Let's not forget that Tim Duncan has only won Finals MVP honors in a mediocre 75% of his finals appearances. Paul Pierce has an immaculate 100% success rate in that regard. I don't care what line of work you're in, if you only show up three quarters of the time I'm not going to say you're a top ten employee.

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    Also can we please all just acknowledge that yes, wilt chamberlain was BA, but ing Dwight Howard could average 50 and 30 back then lol

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    It should be more insulting that he didn't even mention 5-0 in his arguments, but I'm used to it by now..David is the most underrated player of all-time with today's NBA fans and coverage IMO..all they remember is the Hakeem series..


    FWIW, the statheads should eventually get David the recognition he deserves. Many efficiency formulas rate David as a top 5 player to ever play the game...

    For instance this one here:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_career.html

    although it's funny because often when they come up with a new win stat David will usually be #1 or 2 and they retool the formula in a way that drops him down to lower in the top 10.



    I don't think David cares, it's actually better now than it used to be and I always figure the ignorance that leads to him being overlooked punishes those that overlook him worse than it does him.


    The guy that wrote this article would probably rate Bill Walton, KG and Paul Pierce over Drob.

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    By the time it's said and done Duncan will probably have had at least 1 HOF teamate on every one of his teams, and probably 2 others on several of them. So that's not really an accurate claim.

    If Manu retired today he'd make the HOF due to his career body of work if not totally his NBA career.

    Parker will probably make the HOF too.

    I'd argue that Horry deserves to be in the HOF even though he probably won't be. Anyone that thinks he didn't make more contributions to more championship teams than anyone of his era is delusional.
    I completely disagree.

    1. Bird played and won championships with Parish and McHale all within their primes.

    2. Ginoboli is not a hall of fame player strictly on his NBA play, so I can't equate him to the cast Bird had. Parish and McHale played on several all star teams, and Ginoboli has only been on one. Plus, Ginoboli's prime only accounts for two les. He was a rookie on the first and not nearly the player he was in his prime. Even if you claim he is a HOF player, in 2003 he was not and neither was any other player on that Spurs team. Bird can't claim a le like that.

    3. Parker is not a hall of fame player. Not by NBA standards. He's a Kevin Johnson. Or even a Dennis Johnson. A great point guard, yes. But not amongst the upper echelon of Stockton or Magic Johnson. And the only le that fell within his prime was the 2007 le. He's in his prime now.

    4. David Robinson had one le in mostly his prime, the 1999. The 2003 le was on the downside of David's career, especially considering he retired at the end of that season.

    5. Horry was a good role player on several championship teams. But even Horry will admit he'd have no les if he didn't have teammates like Hakeem, Tim, Kobe, and Shaq. He played on the best teams of the 90s.

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    You think perhaps these three are related?



    Fixed

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    What a joke. He didn't even mention JJ Hickson.

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    You have to compare teams to their own era, you can't compare them to teams in other eras IMO..

    So while Duncan's supporting casts were never great when compared to other legends of different eras, his supporting cast in '99, 2005 and 2007 was always one of the best, if not the best in the NBA..

    Obviously if you compare it to Magic and Bird's from the 80s it wouldn't stack up, but teams should only be compared within their own eras IMO..

    The 2003 supporting cast was weak for a le team, no doubt about that, but it was a VERY well built team from a roles and defense perspective..it would be impossible to win a le without a good supporting cast, but that one is weak by le standards..

    Duncan's other casts have all been very good compared to his own era..

    You could possibly use the argument that Duncan would have benefited more had the Spurs' paid the luxury tax more often though..

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    this is the worst ing article i have ever seen.
    +1

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    Charles Barkley > Tim Duncan?

    Karl Malone > Tim Duncan?

    fail.
    Hm...even Barkley has put Duncan ahead of himself and Malone...

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    I think Pop's words on the whole World Championship thing ruffled some feathers around Boston.

    Boston's butthurt to the fullest.

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    I'm still a fan of David Robinson. I don't see how DRob's athleticism wouldn't translate to success in any era.

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    I personally think the players of the 60s were more complete when compared to today's players. Still, in the past decade only 3 players have carried a team to the finals: Allen Iverson in 2001, Tim Duncan in 2003 and LeBron in 2007. Only Duncan won because Tim is in fact a top 10 player of all time.
    That may be true in a basketball fundamental skills sense, but the game has changed so much that, athletically speaking, the players from that era would have a hard time keeping up with a lot of the players today. This is why Tim Duncan is such a special player. He embodies and exemplifies the span and scope of time in his skill level and play. He is truly representative of the history of basketball.
    The idiot who wrote this article should ask Bill Russell what he thinks of Tim Duncan.

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    Honestly, hard for me to say much about Russel, Robertson, West, or Cousy-- too long ago and before my time. Wilt's beastliness comes through in his stats, however, and it's pretty clear he dominated as he saw fit.

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    Honestly, hard for me to say much about Russel, Robertson, West, or Cousy-- too long ago and before my time. Wilt's beastliness comes through in his stats, however, and it's pretty clear he dominated as he saw fit.
    Cousy's career FG% is 37.5. Rondo is about to pass him for most assists in a season by a Celtic. Rajon Rondo. Do you need to know more?

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    Iverson > Duncan
    Starbury > Iverson
    Bonner >> Starbury
    Centerpiece >>> Bonner

    Rather easy to pile up names

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