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  1. #51
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    Duncan was a true #1

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    Dirk is a 1 option.

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    Dirk is a 1 option.
    On offense easily. But I wouldn't give him the same #1 franchise player designation - that's reserved only for Kobe, Bron and Wade right now. Duncan in his prime was a 1. KG and Dirk at their peaks were 1.5 guys. Durant is already a 1.5 and will be a 1 soon.

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    So your argument is that Dirk's scoring advantage over KG made up for KG's advantage in defense, rebounding and passing?..

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    So your argument is that Dirk's scoring advantage over KG made up for KG's advantage in defense, rebounding and passing?..
    Dirk - 23, 9 and 3 for his career on .509% eFG.

    KG - 20, 11 and 4 for his career on .502% eFG.

    Playoffs:

    Dirk - 26, 11 and 3 in 97 career playoff games. Finals Runner Up as a #1 guy.

    KG - 22, 12 and 4 in 73 career playoff games. Conference Finals appearance as a #1 guy. Championship as a #2 guy.

    It's pretty damn close. Dirk couldn't anchor a defense; you couldn't run your offense through KG in crunch time.

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    Where's Manudo Flopo at!?!

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    You could run your offense through KG in the earlier 2000's, when he was in his MVP form.

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    lmao

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    r u serious? KG in his prime vs. Dirk??

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    Who said Dirk is in the same class as Duncan and Kobe?
    Apples to Oranges. We're talking PFs.

    Tier 1: Duncan, KG

    Tier 2: The Diggler

    Prime KG was ridiculous and he would be sitting on 4 rings if he was in Timmy's situation with the Spurs. Duncan wouldn't have won in Minny either.

    Although I'm taking Duncan over either of them because he's more center than PF anyway.

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    Apples to Oranges. We're talking PFs.

    Tier 1: Duncan, KG

    Tier 2: The Diggler

    Prime KG was ridiculous and he would be sitting on 4 rings if he was in Timmy's situation with the Spurs. Duncan wouldn't have won in Minny either.

    Although I'm taking Duncan over either of them because he's more center than PF anyway.
    I don't think so. KG's go-to move on offense was the 12-foot turn-around jumper. Duncan's go to move was the bank shot off the glass in the low post. You could hand the ball to Duncan with five minutes left and say "Go win us this game." You can't honestly say the same about KG. If they had switched places, Duncan wouldn't have won a ring in Minny either, but they would never have missed the playoffs. The Spurs probably would've broken through at one point to win a championship with KG, but I don't think they collect four.

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    Spurs definitely don't beat Detroit if you swap Duncan with Garnett. They also don't beat the Lakers in 03. The 07 Phoenix series might have gone the other way too.

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    The Lakers were ty in 2003. They weren't going anywhere. And KG was in his prime, he went ballistic on us in round 1 with a cast worse than Duncans.

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    No way does KG beat LA in 2003.

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    The Lakers were ty in 2003. They weren't going anywhere. And KG was in his prime.
    Lakers were tied 2-2 in the series and lost 96-94 in Game 5 largely because of Tim Duncan's performance.

    KG in his prime also choked harder than KG as an old decrepit piece of . KG in his prime in 2003 was getting curbstomped by those same " ty" Lakers.

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    6 game series with him going nuts on us surrounded by Anthony Peeler and Wally Szerbiak. Not what I call a curbstomp.

    He was arguably the best player in the league during that time. And LA was crap beyond Kobe and Shaq at that point.

    Funny how you act like the Spurs won some ultra close series and Minnie got stomped when the two series went almost exactly the same.

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    KG on his prime was arguably the best player in the world (at least that was the opinion of several BB specialists and fans), when has Dirk been perceived that way?

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    Spurs definitely don't beat Detroit if you swap Duncan with Garnett. They also don't beat the Lakers in 03. The 07 Phoenix series might have gone the other way too.
    And the Boston Celtics don't win the 2008 championship with Dirk instead of Garnett.

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    6 game series with him going nuts on us surrounded by Anthony Peeler and Wally Szerbiak. Not what I call a curbstomp.
    ting the bed in an elimination game and shooting 9/21 while going 0/2 from the free throw line is called getting curbstomped. So is being up 2-1 and then losing the last 3 games of the series by a combined 51 points.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    KG on his prime was arguably the best player in the world (at least that was the opinion of several BB specialists and fans)
    you think you can pull out some bull like that and not have to back it up?

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    KG on his prime was arguably the best player in the world (at least that was the opinion of several BB specialists and fans), when has Dirk been perceived that way?
    when he was given the MVP trophy.....

    thats kind of what that award implies.

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    And the Boston Celtics don't win the 2008 championship with Dirk instead of Garnett.

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    manu>dirk

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    And the Boston Celtics don't win the 2008 championship with Dirk instead of Garnett.
    Paul Pierce and Ray Allen had alot more to do with winning that championship than Garnett did. If you're asking Dirk to be a 3rd wheel like KG was, he can more than fill that role.

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    when he was given the MVP trophy.....

    thats kind of what that award implies.
    tbh Argentina Nazi Sympathizer doesn't want to use that as proof because Dirk has an MVP trophy too.

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