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I don't agree because what shows it? That he killed someone? How is that an argument? Adults kill others all the time, does that somehow make them not know what they're doing? Ok, you could argue it philosophically or something.
Exactly. People do stupid things when they are angry, and it's too easy to pull a trigger without fully considering the implications.
I don't agree because what shows it? That he killed someone? How is that an argument? Adults kill others all the time, does that somehow make them not know what they're doing? Ok, you could argue it philosophically or something.
Well, if we were talking about a nation like Congo or Eritrea or something, It would have been a reasonable point, but come on.
If you let people taking things into their own hands, you will get a wild west nation. No authority, chaos. Like the Clans in Albanian highlands or in the medieval. Everybody has a different perspective of what is right, chaos.
Weed and crack are illegal, go try and see how hard it is to get some. If it was a matter of how easy it is to get guns, then all the gun shop owners should have all their kids in jails and prisons by now. Wouldn't they be the first to kill people since the guns are right there at daddy's business?
What's wrong with good parenting, that's where all the starts.
my 2 cents.
I like how "Ban guns" is the cool answer to solving problems like this to most people. His intention was to kill, he'd have done it however possible. He could have poisoned her, stabbed her, lit her on fire, ran her over with a car, smothered her in her sleep, bashed her head with a baseball bat...you name it. But he used a gun and all of the sudden the answer to preventing this crime is "Ban guns."
You wish it was that simple.
I mean 11 year old kids, dont know yet. They are still 'green', influenced, have no idea of how the world is. What's good or wrong. Especially when they are obsessed with violent videogames and movies and if they come from violent domestic backgrounds.
Of course, most 11 year olds are normal and do know whats right and wrong. But you cant see that as a standard to expect 11 year olds to know what they are doing.
With adults its a different thing, they are fully grown, and if they still dont know what they are doing, well than its just a matter of being dumb, sick or who knows what else. They wont develop any further.
I don't NEED a gun, but I want to be able to have one if I want.
I have a pretty good collection, including some over 100 years old. I enjoy the collecting aspect of gun ownership. I also enjoy shooting them (at local shooting ranges). Plus, my son and I go shooting together as a father/son thing. He's 12, and very responsible. He handles them properly and safely. My guns are locked up in two gun safes.
my guns have never killed anybody while owned by me. My guns don't leave by themselves at night while I'm sleeping and commit crime sprees.
the USA has plently of "gun free" zones... schools, churches, etc.
Yep, guess where all the mass shootings happen.... that's right, in the good old safe "gun free" zones.
Well, it isnt about this kid in particular. But I do think when you control or even ban guns, crime will drop, especially in the USA. I think you can't deny that. You have the highest rates of crime involving guns in the western world. Dont you think it has something to do with that?
You will make it harder for people especially kids to get guns, they will not use them so easy, also as I said before, people who are in a heated situation, will use a gun if things get heated up. If they know they have one in their bedroom, they'll use it faster, even though they did not have the intention to do so in the first place.
Sucks, but this is true. People should really take a good look at themselves and see if they can be responsible enough with having a gun.
For me back when I was practicing martial arts (including knife fighting) there was a time when I was a little enamored with having a knife. But after thinking about it a little more deeply I realised it's better not to get it for the time being, because some may start to happen which may not be that serious but if get scared I might pull it out and then I'd probably have to use it.
Maybe they should give people pysch evaluation before allowing them to get a gun.
Well, so you use it as a hobby. I can see that. And im not saying guns should be banned totally. Im just saying they should make it very hard for people and kids to get guns. If you want a gun, they should make it under a very strict gun control, with licences. I mean in other countries, also in europe there are people like you who do it for a hobby and it works for those countries with strict licences, why not for you?
Why should a hard working tax paying citizen like yourself have a gun? why so you can protect your family and property? get real!! Sorry dude, you will have to come up with a better reason than that.
I hope you're right.
Yeah you're right and I'm not saying people should take things in their own hands like that.If you let people taking things into their own hands, you will get a wild west nation. No authority, chaos. Like the Clans in Albanian highlands or in the medieval. Everybody has a different perspective of what is right, chaos.
all US states are different. Some states it is very difficult to get a gun, with lots of licensing requirements and stuff. Some states ban all sorts of guns.
It sure is weird that states with lax gun laws have low gun crime. States with severely strict laws, and even bans, have very high violent crime rates.
Crime would increase I believe. Home invasions in particular. The fear of breaking into peoples houses at night is that you will be shot. I think what every thief would tell you is the major fear is getting caught and possibly getting shot. Everyone will look more vulnerable here.
Guns would still be available also. If guns were ever banned, it would be impossible for the government to seize them all. Whos going to have the best access to guns if they're banned? Probably gangs and other lowlives.
Would accidental deaths related to guns decrease? Certainly. But if you're arguing crimes going to decrease, I'd have to 100% disagree.
I see your point, and maybe in a different case I could agree with you, but not here.
I'm not convinced how well a kid who commited an assasination at 11 will be developed further in the juvenile system. Maybe if he got the correct attention, but that seems highly unlikely. Of course on the other hand I don't believe he'll develop (in a good way) in the adult prison system either.With adults its a different thing, they are fully grown, and if they still dont know what they are doing, well than its just a matter of being dumb, sick or who knows what else. They wont develop any further.
I know, gangs will always have access to guns and even if there is a ban they'll continue to do so. We have that over here too. But you would at least make it impossible(impossible is nothing) or at least more difficult for kids to get guns. Also would it make drop crime with guns by normal people who are not in a gang, but got caught up in some situation, with drugs or alcohol or who knows what else involved, they will use guns faster if they have one even when they did not have any intention to use it before that. I think these cases are a huge part.
Oh on a lighter note, Bukefal, in February my friend, whose parents are from Macedonia, brought a kind of home made schnops from there. It was really strong, couldn't even take a sip without drinking some water after it. But after I got a little drunk I started drinking it more easily.......... And the result -> I haven't been so trashed in two years and didn't have a hangover like that in 7 years.
lolll Must have been RakijaOh on a lighter note, Bukefal, in February my friend, whose parents are from Macedonia, brought a kind of home made schnops from there. It was really strong, couldn't even take a sip without drinking some water after it. But after I got a little drunk I started drinking it more easily.......... And the result -> I haven't been so trashed in two years and didn't have a hangover like that in 7 years.
Yeah probably, though when we asked him what it was he said he doesn't know. Was definitely over 50%. In any case I don't plan on drinking much of what he brings next time.lolll Must have been Rakija
The funny thing is that this Saturday I was talking with some girls that were with us and they said I didn't even look drunk to them but pretty normal and were completely surprised I was actually so wasted.
They said we were dancing and then I just said I have to go the toilet and I didn't come back haha. The next part of the story was told by another friend who was at the toilet and when he came out he saw me leaning with my head against the wall and I told him "dude help me". I don't remember any of this.
haha yeah rakija makes you feel ed up. But you are right about not noticing that you are wasted, like with other drinks. It might even give you some more force or energyYeah probably, though when we asked him what it was he said he doesn't know. Was definitely over 50%. In any case I don't plan on drinking much of what he brings next time.
The funny thing is that this Saturday I was talking with some girls that were with us and they said I didn't even look drunk to them but pretty normal and were completely surprised I was actually so wasted.
They said we were dancing and then I just said I have to go the toilet and I didn't come back haha. The next part of the story was told by another friend who was at the toilet and when he came out he saw me leaning with my head against the wall and I told him "dude help me". I don't remember any of this.
I dont like it so much, too strong for me. I only drink hot rakija in the winter sometimes.
Hot rakija? Why LMAO?I dont like it so much, too strong for me. I only drink hot rakija in the winter sometimes.
It's so hot by itself I almost could've walked naked around in winter after drinking it.
Hot rakija? Why LMAO?
It's so hot by itself I almost could've walked naked around in winter after drinking it.
Ok I'll take your word for it hehe, won't try it myself.
I know I made a couple of parents mad, but my child was never allowed to visit classmates' houses if they owned a gun in their house.
wow thats crazy
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