Garnett....

[DAF86]

No matter that you're losing badly, this argument is really important to you isn't it?

Every non-biased person would agree that Garnett > Dirk. How am I losing?

[dirk4mvp]

Pulling some cheese argument that basketball "specialists" said KG was the best player in the world, and then looking re ed when someone asked you for proof.

Also, you've been showing major amounts of butthurt since you've been getting squirted on in the recent Dirk/Manu threads and is now looking for any Dirk vs. 'X' to get your shots in.

lol manu > Dirk

[DAF86]

Pulling some cheese argument that basketball "specialists" said KG was the best player in the world, and then looking re ed when someone asked you for proof.

Also, you've been showing major amounts of butthurt since you've been getting squirted on in the recent Dirk/Manu threads and is now looking for any Dirk vs. 'X' to get your shots in.

lol manu > Dirk

First, get it right: Is Manu's prime > Dirk's prime

And second, I've been arguing this since Manu's injury times and looked anything but done, why am I going to get butthurt now that he's proving a lot of people that he's a lot better than what most of them thought he was?

[dirk4mvp]

First, get it right: Is Manu's prime > Dirk's prime

An equally absurd comment.

And second, I've been arguing this since Manu's injury times and looked anything but done, why am I going to get butthurt now that he's proving a lot of people that he's a lot better than what most of them thought he was?

IDK, but you've really been butthurt lately in any Dirk/Manu thread. Probably because every time you make yourself look re ed.

[Findog]

KG on his prime was arguably the best player in the world (at least that was the opinion of several BB specialists and fans), when has Dirk been perceived that way?

KG was better than Duncan? Better than Shaq? Better than Kobe?

Okay.

[Findog]

And the Boston Celtics don't win the 2008 championship with Dirk instead of Garnett.

Prove it.

If Dirk can come within a hair of winning a championship with Josh Howard and Jason Terry, I like his chances with Ray Allen and Paul Pierce.

Manu > Dirk.

[DAF86]

An equally absurd comment.

No it isn't, imho.

IDK, but you've really been butthurt lately in any Dirk/Manu thread. Probably because every time you make yourself look re ed.

Nah, I'm fine. I'm enjoying the best part of the Spurs and Manu's season (except for this little incident we had a few hours ago ), this butthurtdness of mine is all in your mind, tbh.

[Findog]

What's so funny? do you really think that the Celts win the championship with Dirk instead of KG?

So in other words....

Manu > Dirk

Jason Terry and Josh Howard > Paul Pierce and Ray Allen

God, you are a dumb

[Findog]

....still waiting on proof of anyone ever calling Garnett the best player in the world. Especially considering he was playing in the same era as Shaq, Kobe, and Duncan.

He was never better than those guys. And his prime coincided with theirs.

[DAF86]

KG was better than Duncan? Better than Shaq? Better than Kobe?

Okay.

I don't think he was better than Duncan and Shaq but he IMO he was better than Kobe during that time, also why are you bringing this to me. I didn't say that I thoght that KG was the best player of those year, I said that a lot of people thought that way.

[Findog]

Since when MVP= best player in the world?

Since when was Kevin Garnett considered the best player in the world? When in his prime was he ever better than Shaq, Duncan and Kobe?

[Findog]

I don't think he was better than Duncan and Shaq but he IMO he was better than Kobe during that time, also why are you bringing this to me. I didn't say that I thoght that KG was the best player of those year, I said that a lot of people thought that way.

I lot of people thought Home Improvement was a better show than Seinfeld, which is why it kicked Seinfeld's ass in the ratings for a few years. If that opinion is not valid, why do you bring it up then? What does it matter if some people erroneously think KG was better than Duncan, Shaq and Kobe?

[Findog]

No, they're spearheaded by delusional Mavsfans that think that Dirk had a better career than Garnett.

I don't think Dirk necessarily had a better career than Garnett, but they were both 1.5 players in their prime. They each had flaws and holes in their games that prevented them from being a true #1 guy.

Garnett won a ring as a #2 guy and won more awards, so on that basis, you could say he had a more rewarding career. But it's hard to make a case for either guy as anything more than a 1.5.

[DAF86]

I lot of people thought Home Improvement was a better show than Seinfeld, which is why it kicked Seinfeld's ass in the ratings for a few years. If that opinion is not valid, why do you bring it up then? What does it matter if some people erroneously think KG was better than Duncan, Shaq and Kobe?

Because it shows that during his prime KG was considered a tier 1 player (something that I agree with) while Dirk has never been placed on that level.

[DAF86]

I don't think Dirk necessarily had a better career than Garnett, but they were both 1.5 players in their prime. They each had flaws and holes in their games that prevented them from being a true #1 guy.

Garnett won a ring as a #2 guy and won more awards, so on that basis, you could say he had a more rewarding career. But it's hard to make a case for either guy as anything more than a 1.5.

No, he didn't. He won it as the best player on his team. He was 3rd in MVP voting that year behind Kobe and CP3.

I guess that you think that Duncan won the '07 championship as the number 2 guy of the Spurs.

[Findog]

Because it shows that during his prime KG was considered a tier 1 player (something that I agree with)

Who considered him a Tier 1 player? Who placed him on that level? I don't know of many people who put him in the same class as Duncan, Kobe and Shaq.

while Dirk has never been placed on that level.

Neither has KG.

[DAF86]

Jason Terry and Josh Howard > Paul Pierce and Ray Allen

God, you are a dumb

Why are you making up? When did I say that?

[Findog]

No, he didn't. He won it as the best player on his team.

KG was a 1.5 that year and so was Pierce. Pierce was their best player in the playoffs because of the way he amped up his defense and how the Celtics offense ran through him in crunch time. KG anchored the defense and was a great locker room guy who inspired his teammates with his work ethic and example. Pierce can't anchor a defense or inspire his teammates, but you could give him the ball in crunch time and have him win the game for you. He was their playoff MVP.

He was 3rd in MVP voting that year behind Kobe and CP3.

Who gives a ? He was far from the third-best player in the league that yaer.

I guess that you think that Duncan won the '07 championship as the number 2 guy of the Spurs.

So you think defenses keying in on Kevin Garnett is why Paul Pierce was so effective on offense? Okay.

[DAF86]

Who considered him a Tier 1 player? Who placed him on that level? I don't know of many people who put him in the same class as Duncan, Kobe and Shaq.



Neither has KG.

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2006/05/...kevin-garnett/

And in the comment section you can read things like:

I agree, Kevin Garnett has been the best player for the last couple of years

Again, I'm not saying I agree with it. Just that the thing was talked about.

[Findog]

Why are you making up? When did I say that?

It's the logical conclusion of your argument. If Dirk came within a few inches of winning a le with Jason Terry and Josh Howard as his supporting cast, why would he have no chance to win a le with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen?

[Findog]

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2006/05/...kevin-garnett/

And in the comment section you can read things like:



Again, I'm not saying I agree with it. Just that the thing was talked about.

What kind of supporting evidence is that for your position? Since when are blogs the final arbiter of who is a true #1 guy?

[endrity]

Can we just have an official Dirk v. KG thread instead of every thread that mentions either of the players turning into one?

By the way, for memory's sake, this is what the supposed best player in the world was doing against a very young, soft ass, European in the 2002 playoffs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4cD...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmo1L83Vcc

Individually one of the best series by Dirk, being guarded almost exclusively by KG! Complete ownage!!!!

[Findog]

Can we just have an official Dirk v. KG thread instead of every thread that mentions either of the players turning into one?

By the way, for memory's sake, this is what the supposed best player in the world was doing against a very young, soft ass, European in the 2002 playoffs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4cD...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmo1L83Vcc

Individually one of the best series by Dirk, being guarded almost exclusively by KG! Complete ownage!!!!

Yep Dirk has never had much problem with KG.

[DAF86]

What kind of supporting evidence is that for your position? Since when are blogs the final arbiter of who is a true #1 guy?

You said that KG was never placed in the tier 1 category, I'm showing you evidence that he was. There isn't an official stat that separates players in categories so all we have is public opinions.

Here's another one

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-of-the-decade

Again, I don't agree with it (IMO he's 4) but the fact that there's people that think he is the second best player of the decade shows you how good he was in his prime. Even if a BS opinion, I'm sure you won't find an article saying that Dirk was the second best player of the decade.

[DAF86]

It's the logical conclusion of your argument. If Dirk came within a few inches of winning a le with Jason Terry and Josh Howard as his supporting cast, why would he have no chance to win a le with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen?

Because Garnett was the player that defined that team's style of play and without that style they wouldn't have won it all.