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Imho it all depends by the teams we're gonna face in the play offs...'cause, for example, the best matchup for us for Parker, if we play the Lakers, is against Fisher (Parker too young and quick for him... and that is our best weapon against L.A.)
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Imho it all depends by the teams we're gonna face in the play offs...'cause, for example, the best matchup for us for Parker, if we play the Lakers, is against Fisher (Parker too young and quick for him... and that is our best weapon against L.A.)
Not to say that Hill is also our best matchup with Shanon Brown or Farmar which are stronger.
I agree with this.
I said before that bringing Parker off the bench has its upside, but it will only work on certain teams.
What is the difference between a 30mpg starter and a 30mpg 6th man again?
Our starting lineup is starting games very well and RJ is much better with Manu handling the ball alot more.
If Parker starts, Manu goes back to the 6th man role. I think that would be a TERRIBLE mistake considering how dominant he has been as a starter.
what about 8 min starters and 38 min 6th man? i think that happened earlier this season
I was being sarcastic.
The question popped a thousand times with Manu. The thing is the starting lineup is only about 5-8mins anyway but Manu will play 30min and so will Tony. So they'll be out there together for most of the game.
I agree RJ is playing better for a month and that's about when Tony got hurt but I'm not sold on the fact that Manu and RJ playing better ball is solely linked to the fact that Tony ain't playing. Earlier this season, RJ couldn't hit anything be it WIDE open Js or even blowing f***ing layups lol. Manu has definitely gotten over is physical problems and is the sole reason the spurs have been winning most games lately. He's dominating games.
On a side note, one could argue that Tim depreciating stats are directly linked with Tony's absence. That would be as valid as an hypothesis as RJ playing better without Tony.
Playing together as a team is a difficult thing to accomplish. The sense of urgency about our record has something to do with the results (huhu Pop?).
GHill is more than capable of destroying Fisher. Coming back, Parker is the one that will have to adjust with the starters playing well.
I was planning to open a thread like this, but I was lazy a couple og nights ago.
It comes to my mind two reason:
1. How to add TP's minutes after injury, a calm approach should be bringing him from the bench to play some minutes with first/secong unit.
That makes sense IMHO, the challenges is to be cool with TP since he should go in easy mode to recover his rol and game.
Hill + Manu keeping their present role would be fantastic.
Mid/long term I am afraid of TP's ego with this approach, and how effectivily (?) he could manage/sparks second unit (as Manu/George do).
2. What about adding TP as starter as soon as he got a medical "clearance" (?), I'm quite sure TP will do well.
I'm afraid of how TP will manage the team since his absence could have changed the "team" a little.
Hill/Manu back to previous role, for sure Manu wouldn't care (at least as he publicly sais many time) being subs, the question mark will go to George in the second unit.
Time to go, nice thread to follow.
it's like people forget this is the guy that, when healthy, was a Finals MVP. and he's still capable of that.
i also think he's smart enough and capable of being that same scoring threat if he's asked to, or when the offense needs it, but also not disrupting the chemistry that's going on right now b/w with Manu and RJ specifcally. i think he's capable enough, IOW, of doing exactly what George Hill is doing right now offensively, but better. he just has to be healthy and like he was a year ago. it's unfortunate that Parker isn't a 3-point threat, which helps spacing, but i think he can mold his game to fit RJ's and get a chemistry b/w himself, Man, and RJ.
i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt; and i'm going to blame the fact that it didn't happen before on him being injured. i hope i'm right.
What is Pop's history with bring major players back from injury? Do they automatically get their starting jobs back? Or do they have to earn them?
I really don't care if he starts or no, point is trying to maximize the PT of our best player right now who is Manu. If to do so the option is to let parker as our 6th man I'm fine with that.
If parker comes back even at 80% I'd go with him and Manu in the starting 5, I think Hill can do the Manu job for the second unit.
Agree. Add maximizing your teammates.
Pop will do what's rquired. I can't see Tony's ego getting in the way if he were to be the sixth man as long as he finishes. He will stil get to do his thing.
Maybe this is the right thing to do so the initial momentum is created by the current starting 5 which is functioning beautifully. Parker can still get 35 or so minutes anyways.
ROGER MASON MUST GET 0 MINUTES EVERY AND EACH GAME!
When Parker comes back if Popped has any balls he'll make TP come off the bench to do most of the scoring in the 2nd unit.
If this happens (and I'm betting it won't), I'd still prefer to see a Parker/Mason as the 2nd unit backcourt. Roger is the all around better player over Bogans IMO.
agree with the OP...
imagine having a quick,healthy parker to come in and tear other teams bench a new a-hole...
also , he can ease in to a starting role without disrupting team chemistry...
earlier in the season , with parker starting....Manu had to come in and try to bring the spurs back from a deficit----mainly because of garbage like finley---but also because of the lack of chemistry with parker/RJ---
but imagine if Parker can come in at the end of the first quarter---fresh---and with a spurs lead to work with....imagine
I agree 100%
If it works, (and I think it would) it would leave the chemistry of the
the Hill/Manu/Jefferson 1st unit trio intact. It's plainly obvious this unit is light years better than the one featuring Bogans & Parker. Parker and Money Mase in the 2nd unit is a good scoring combo. Parker also has Bonner to kick out to. That's about the extent of Parker's playmaking abilities anyway, the drive and kick out. So his game fits the 2nd unit from a personnel standpoint. I think Parker and Duncan have a synergy together too but its not great enough to overcome the negatives. I think its far more likely Duncan will pick up his game w/out Parker than Jefferson picking up his game with him..
This might actually also work on another level. Parker might feel slighted and this might motivate him to bring his game to another level. If Parker can kick it up a notch and drive that 2nd unit they can compete against anyone.
Benching TP is crazy talk. This is exactly what happens when you become indoctrinated to Pop's dumb ass basketball coaching. Benching the best PG on the floor is crazy. Unless the Spurs are playing against the Jazz or Hornets, TP would be considered the best PG on the floor of any game he is in. So why would you cripple your offense by taking a guy who gets you lay ups and WIDE open jumpers off the floor? File the "Bench TP strategy" right up there with the "RJ is a great PF in small ball strategy", and "Bonner is a shutdown center strategy".
Pure crap.
This is why I never consider your takes seriously, you're just a ing hater.
We have a thread with TP fan saying why not if it's for the team good and we have a thread with TP haters: "yeah put his ass in second unit, parker is poor Iverson kind of player who can do only drive and kick out without the shooting range".
For the recod as I already said I'd prefer see Manu + TP in the starting 5, Hill is capable to put 20 ppg in the second unit but I would be fine with Hill + Manu.
oh andat TP+Mason is a good combo, Mason is finished. With TP back I expect 0 min for Mason, maximize the manu / hill / tp minutes.
What would Parker do?
Do any of you really think "Hollywood" Parker would take a benching and be like Manu and still work to win any way possible? He'll come off the bench for maybe one game just to get some semblence of rhythm, then he'll be in the starting 5. Pop knows Hollywood won't come off the bench and give max effort, he'll pout and be disgruntled.
You can call me a hater, but after seeing all the bs with Parker and his NT bull he's going to have to win me back over. I had the same feelings towards Manu with his NT bs but he's been showing me something lately by carrying this team when I thougHt they were dead. If Parker shows the same and doesn't bring out his "en lement" at ude that is sometimes present then I'll be a lot easier on the guy.
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