And Bozo is from Cleveland. And so are rivers that catch on fire
Isn't it the responsibility of the manager to read the scoring and settings before drafting his team?
I am against any changes to scoring and settings post-draft, even if the changes could possibly benefit me.
But if the league votes for a change, I will go with the flow.
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Last edited by RedsLakers24; 04-01-2010 at 02:21 PM.
Yeap...the only reason I don't have more of a problem with it is that I have never just stuck on 15innings before and I've never seen anyone do it before actually.
Because you never know when you'll have to go after W-K so pulling their staff is usually not something people do until the final day of the week.
The perception is it's some kind of advantage but it really isn't it. I had more closers than anyone last year...and Alamo beat me in either or whip or ERA(might have been both). And I was trying to freeze him out in ERA and whip...he got under my totals.I am against any changes to scoring and settings post-draft, even if the changes could possibly benefit me.
But if the league votes for a change, I will go with the flow.
And Alamo clearly had the best pitching staff period last season.
It's really not some huge advantage for people with closers...I mean you did the strategy last year too and I remember you haveing a bad week in it was the main reason I beat you in the first matchup last year. I think you put up like a 9 ERA for the week or something. And that happened to me a few times too.
IF your closers are having a bad week, you will lose ERA and whip, and lose them badly.
The best way to ensure a good whip and era is to have the best pitchers in those categories period regardless of if they are starters or closers.
A closer with a mid 3 ERA will have some ugly ERA weeks in the course of a season.
Last edited by whottt; 04-01-2010 at 02:28 PM.
Whott, you should use that strategy. You could win Steals, WHIP and ERA....2 more categories than you will win now.
And you should use the strategy of making the playoffs before presuming to tell your "betters" what they should do
I agree it would benefit the league raising the minimum innings pitched, but damned people y'all got an entire winter for this discussion and now after the draft there's a debate wether to just throw some people's draft strategees for the entire season out of the window! It's not dodging a loop in the rules, FWDT talked about this before the draft and nobody argued that decission than.
Let me be clear that it is not my strategy to try to gamble on the minimum innings pitched with my 4 closers. I didn't do it last year until I was forced to at the end of the season.
And the decission from last year to not allowe unlimited roster moves I don't see anywhere.
Y'all set the rules and I play accordingly.
Just don't change them when the game is already under way.
Just curious because LJ's name is used a lot in here, when did he win the championship?
Just to make a few things clear:
1. I'm not employing a specific strategy to fill my staff with closers and game the minimum IP requirement; as I've said several times in this thread, I'm actively seeking opportunities to trade for SP and would jettison RP to do it. As my other posts in the thread indicate, I think there's an understandable temptation to believe that an owner will almost always benefit in WHIP and ERA by using a bunch of relievers instead of SP, but I think that temptation isn't particularly well-founded in reality. As for me, I have 5 SP on my roster and have every intention of starting each of them when their turns arrive. I also am, again, looking for more SP.
2. I'm willing to put a moderate increase in minimum IP to the league's owners for a vote, but I'm not willing to make a unilateral change in the rules. From my standpoint, I tend to agree with the idea that this concern was knowable before the draft and I don't think there was any obfuscation about what the rules were. This thread alone began with my statement that the IP minimum was being increased from 10 to 15 and asking if anyone thought a more considerable bump was worth considering. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...44&postcount=1). Through a month of that being posted, NOBODY had an objection to the increase to 15 IP.
3. At the same time, I recognize that we've got a bunch of owners who've played under these rules in the past and a few who are new to them and may not have appreciated how they'll actually work. I can also understand that new owners either might not have seen the post about the increase in the minimum IP or may not have had any real interest in addressing the merits of that change. For that reason, I think rascal makes a valid enough point to put the issue to a vote and to consider a change -- if it has majority support.
4. For the latter reason, I'm going to post a thread on the league website about this issue. First, I'm going to ask everyone to vote on whether we should change the rule (no matter by how much) at this point in the season. If that gets majority support, then we'll talk about how much of a change that might be.
-FWD
I don't know that LJ ever won the championship in this league, but he's been a good manager whose teams have generally been compe ive over the 3 prior years of this league.
And he's LJ. He's earned at least a small degree of credibility and respect in this forum -- at least from some.
Since there's some interest in it, here's the league history. Apologies to those whose teams I've failed to immediately identify!!
2007
League Champion-- Roid Rage (yavozerb, I think)
2nd -- The Larry Davids
3rd -- BALCO Bartokomous (Melmart)
4th -- TheScrewballs (whottt)
5th -- The Outfielders
6th -- DominicanRepublicans (timvp)
2008
League Champion -- Ooooh That Snell! (Melmart)
2nd -- Downtown's Diablos (FWD)
3rd -- DominicanRepublicans (timvp)
4th -- Atrain's Army (ATrain)
5th -- Bashers (slayer)
6th -- Screwballs2 (whottt)
2009
League Champion -- alamo's terror squad (alamo)
2nd -- Screwballs3 (whottt)
3rd -- Atrain's Army (ATrain)
4th -- Bashers (slayer)
I always play within the rules of the game. Cheating is only cheating yourself. Champions like myself never cheat
I Have the best balance among all teams, i got solid pitching and solid hitting
i dont know what you consider solid pitching but that is like the 4th time you have said that, and every time I look, and every time I see just Roy Halladay, 1 closer who isn't any good and a middle reliever who offers nothing other than he is on the Reds. Your pitching sucks and you have too many hitters sitting on the bench
I'll be here for another hour if anyone else wants advice on their team
Halladay- Great Pitcher
Burnett- good for stikeouts, eats up your WHIP...coming off career high in innings and the playoffs
Jurrjens- wasn't he hurt?
Kawakami- I don't even think he is in the rotation- and if he was, he sucks. Gives you 4 good innings, and then get rocked
Saunders- see above
Homer Bailey- walks more guys than he strikes out. ERA over 5
Nick Massett- why did you draft him?
Cordero- decent closer, WHIP Killer
Blackburn- offers nothing
Randy Wolf- 1 good season, might be a good ERA guy.
and you have too many guys on your bench. Only 1 has a skill set you couldn't find off waivers when you needed a spot start (Cantu). Other than that you have a bunch of guys who would sit on waivers for awhile....but you drafted them
this is why my team is the best.
Roy Halladay- great pitcher
Jurrjens- Great Young Pitcher, has had a season of an ERA Below 3, and he's healthy, and pitching good in spring training
Burnett- Great Strike Outs, and with the Yankees means alot of wins
Kawakami- Great Upside, will be in the Rotation thats why they Braves traded Vazquez, because they have alot of pitching, and this includes this guy
Saunders- Was an All Star before, young, and could have great season, last year he won 16 games
Homer Bailey- It looks like he is going to be a great pitcher, look at his last starts last year and you see he had the best ERA of any pitcher like his last 10 starts, and he is doing really good in spring training
Nick Masset- Great Pitcher, Closer stuff, he has been with the Reds 2 years and had ERA below 3, and The Reds will be shopping Cordero, if they trade him Masset will become the Closer
Randy Wolf- Pretty decent, good for ERA, and could have a big year with the Brewers
Blackburn- Just there for space
lol so you drafted Cordero and Masset to back him up? So you will get like 2-3 saves a week and only lose that category by 7-8 saves? Why even own a closer if you know you can't win that category. Thats like owning 10 michael Bourns and you pick Adam Dunn up in a trade
It's not a new setup league and the new gm's should just be happy to get in this highly compe ive and high level league.
They should play by the set rules before the draft too.
Next season we can change everything per vote BEFORE THE DRAFT.
Voting is not fair to gm's who drafted with strategy based on the set rules. Even if it's only one gm who votes against, there should be no majority over ruling him/her.
Thanks for the standings from the past FWD.
How come again we only have 4 playoff spots in a 12 team league this year?
That's something that should be up for vote in my opinion.
Last edited by alamo50; 04-01-2010 at 05:08 PM.
I say lets vote and get it over with before the season gets here..
keep the innings the way they stand.
I say bump it to 30..With 10 pitchers available to pick up innings all you need are 3 sp's to get you a total of 20 innings for the week (which some would be 2 start pitchers) and the remaining 7 pitchers just get 1 1/2 innnings for the week..more than fair I think
Because of this single no vote (so far), me too say nay to expanding the minimum innings pitched hence no voting needed.
rules are rules, FWD asked a couple months ago if anyone had a problem with the rules....can't change them now. Anything discussed now can be tabled to next season
...damn, I almost feel like TD really is the most interesting man in the world..
you have alot to learn if you didn't already know that
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