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    here is the thing you have to ask yourself....I'm angle man. As seen last season with my over 100 roster moves, I will try to find a way to angle around the rules. If this strategy was any good, I would be using it. Since I'm not, you can count on it not working. It's not a strategy you have to worry about. Nobody has the lineup to do it anyways

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    It's not a new setup league and the new gm's should just be happy to get in this highly compe ive and high level league.
    They should play by the set rules before the draft too.

    Next season we can change everything per vote BEFORE THE DRAFT.
    Voting is not fair to gm's who drafted with strategy based on the set rules. Even if it's only one gm who votes against, there should be no majority over ruling him/her.


    Thanks for the standings from the past FWD.
    How come again we only have 4 playoff spots in a 12 team league this year?
    That's something that should be up for vote in my opinion.
    Agree with increasing the playoff spots to 6 teams. top two division winners or top 2 teams overall get a bye the 1'st week. Seeds 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5 1st week of the playoffs. Top team gets the lowest seed that advances.

    You can also have a 3rd place game between the losers of the 2nd week of the playoffs. Thats great to extend the season for 2 teams.

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    rules are rules, FWD asked a couple months ago if anyone had a problem with the rules....can't change them now. Anything discussed now can be tabled to next season
    I wasn't in the league a couple of months ago.

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    4 teams make the playoffs in baseball...there are no divisions we play as one giant one

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    Hmmm...is anyone sure only 4 teams make the playoffs? I thought the reason only 4 made it last year is because it was a 10 team league. It usually has been 6 the years we've had a 12 team league. I don't have a problem with it if it is that way, I just never saw the rule on the number of teams.
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    I wasn't in the league a couple of months ago.
    Yeap but FWDT increasing the minimum innings from 10 to 15 and possibly more of an increase is in the first post in this thread.
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    Yeap but FWDT increasing the minimum innings from 10 to 15 and possibly more of an increase is in the first post in this thread.
    Going from 10 to 15 makes no difference.

    And sitting guys to win WHIP and ERA because someone has only relief pitchers should not be the incentive. With an increase in innings pitched it makes it harder for guys to load up on RP. I already layed out why 15 innings pitched is too low and what a more reasonable number should be.

    SP comes at more of a premium on draft day so they should be more valuable. RP is mainly for Saves but in our format the smart strategy is to load up on hitters and a couple SP and all RP. CBS only uses 2 slots for RP. RP is a secondary option in most fantasy formats and it should be that way. SP should be more valuable.

    Looks like most teams that use this strategy have done well making the playoffs in this league. Dan never uses it, maybe thats why Dan never makes the playoffs.

    Alamo even admitted he needed to play that way because others where doing it.
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    There's no way you are going to get people to not pull the pitchers to win ERA and WHIP if those two categories are what they need to win. Even if the minimum is a hundred innings. If someone gets a hundred innings and has ERA and WHIP won and have won enough categories to win the matchup, they will pull them to win. That really has nothing to do with relief pitching.


    On a low minimum, if someone pulls their closers to lock up ERA and WHIP, they also will likely lose saves to a team that built a balanced pitching staff and didn't punt the saves category.


    Alamo did not have the best closers last year, I did, and Alamo beat me because he had the best pitching staff.


    This league has never been won by anyone with the best closers since the first year when Yazo won it. Yazo also had the best SP too, he had the best pitching period.

    I think Yazo had 4 great closers the year he won it.
    I think Melmart had only 2 or 3 when she won it.
    I think Alamo only had 2 last year.

    I had 5 of them. And I did just what you are talking about and tried to lock it up and he just simply beat me anyway because his pitching was better.

    It's not the advantage you seem to think it is, as FWDT mentioned, and I think RP is just as important as SP. Yeah you shouldn't be able to punt SP, but you shouldn't be able to punt RP either. The higher the minimum goes the less important RP becomes. And pulling piutchers to lock up ERA and WHIP is something anyone can and will do if the situation calls for it, regardless of whether or not they are a SP or RP oriented team.

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    Oh yeah and Dan didn't make the playoffs because he considered Jim Thome a great draft pick and similar such things.

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    Oh yeah and Dan didn't make the playoffs because he considered Jim Thome a great draft pick and similar such things.
    dude you just had the worst draft in the league and you are running your mouth. You took 3 closers in the first 10 rounds. One is good, one sucks, and the other is out with no timetable for return.

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    dude you just had the worst draft in the league
    How would you know?

    Seriously, how would you know?

    Based on what do you claim that your opinion means something?

    Based
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    What?

    and you are running your mouth.



    You took 3 closers in the first 10 rounds. One is good, one sucks, and the other is out with no timetable for return.
    Both are good and the other always has shoulder problems


    Run along now...and go read another blog.

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    How would you know?

    Seriously, how would you know?

    Based on what do you claim that your opinion means something?

    Based
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    Both are good and the other always has shoulder problems


    Run along now...and go read another blog.
    I write blogs baby I don't read them, I create them.

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    There's no way you are going to get people to not pull the pitchers to win ERA and WHIP if those two categories are what they need to win. Even if the minimum is a hundred innings. If someone gets a hundred innings and has ERA and WHIP won and have won enough categories to win the matchup, they will pull them to win. That really has nothing to do with relief pitching.
    I'm quite sure that I've never sat any of my front line SP or RP at any point in any week in any season just to preserve a lead in ERA or WHIP. If I have a lead in ERA and WHIP, but I have Halladay going (and I had Halladay last year) on Sunday, you'd better believe that I'm going to start Halladay. I might be the only one, but contrary to what rascal seems to think is a deliberate strategy on my part, I've never tried to just barely meet the minimum and leave it at that.

    It's not the advantage you seem to think it is, as FWDT mentioned, and I think RP is just as important as SP. Yeah you shouldn't be able to punt SP, but you shouldn't be able to punt RP either.
    If you punt SP in an effort to win ERA and WHIP, you're definitely going to lose strikeouts and probably wins.

    Even if someone were to deliberately employ this RP, barely meet the minimum IP requirement, strategy, they'd essentially be giving away 2 categories and the difference would be minimal. And the risk of the strategy itself -- at least to me -- wouldn't be worth its potential upside. Again, the lower your IP in a week, the less margin for error you have during the week -- if you only ac ulate 15 IP, one bad one hurts a whole lot more than if you ac ulate 45 IP or 60 IP in a week.

    I'll also note that there's a converse issue with the hitters that nobody seems to have any problem with. As it stands in this league, I could conceivably get more than 162 starts out of any of the 9 positions in my lineup. In fact, over a given week, I could get more than 7 starts out of any of those positions with the right combination of double-headers or things like that. Over the short term or the long term, that would give me similar advantages in the offensive counting categories (runs, HR, RBI, and perhaps even SB). Curiously, nobody has a problem with that potential.

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    you all should work on improving your teams a little more and worrying about the rules a little less. If I'm not using that strategy, you shouldn't worry about it. You are all chasing me anyways, so why even waste time worrying about it?

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    By the way, I did change the number of playoff teams to 6. I thought I had done that earlier but must not have.

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    By the way, I did change the number of playoff teams to 6. I thought I had done that earlier but must not have.
    now Whott will only miss the playoffs by 6 teams instead of 8

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    Is the last week still 2 weeks now? Is our season just cut short with the wildcard week?

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    By the way, I did change the number of playoff teams to 6. I thought I had done that earlier but must not have.
    You're welcome.

    How will the price money by devided now?
    My proposal:

    1. $150
    2. $75
    3. $50
    4. $25
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    You're welcome.

    How will the price money by devided now?
    My proposal:

    1. $150
    2. $75
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    4. $25
    Why should 4th get anything? 1st=175$, 2nd=75$, 3rd= 50

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    I just added Kerry Wood, but why cant i see him on my Roster?

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    I just added Kerry Wood, but why cant i see him on my Roster?
    If you did it today, you'll see the move tomorrow.

    You can see it now if you want:

    Between the brownish bar that has your team name and all of that on it, there's a line that reads:

    Lineup: Fri., April 2 Sat., April 3 Sun., April 4 Mon., April 5 . . . .

    If you click on a later date, you can set your lineup for that day and see who will be on your roster that day. So, for instance, if you wanted to set your lineup for Monday right now, you could click on "Mon., April 5" and set your lineup for that day. I think that tends to be most helpful if you're going out of town for a period of time or something like that.

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    Why should 4th get anything? 1st=175$, 2nd=75$, 3rd= 50
    You got a point.
    I haven't read anywhere what it wil actualy be and the season starts tomorrow.

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    Why should 4th get anything? 1st=175$, 2nd=75$, 3rd= 50
    Agree. 4th gets nothing. You must win 2 games in the playoffs if your not a top 2 team to win cash.

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    What's it gonna be FWDT?


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    Hey Dan nice ERA with Beckett there lmao

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