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    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
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    Whoever watches whole Suns games knows that Steve Nash plays a majority of minues alongside Amare and other better players. On the other hands Dragic is stuck playing alongside players like Louis Amundson who can't finish and are pretty much lost defensively.

    I say that Suns would be a much better defensive team and a little better team overall with Dragič starting (with starter minutes) and Nash playing 13 minutes a game as a backup. We all know what a great defensive presence fun loving Steve is.

    Dragič is a superior defensive player, faster, stronger and a one man fast break waiting to happen. Nash has an edge in shooting and passing but that gets stained with loads of turnovers he creates.

    White Magic FTW!

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    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
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    p.s. Gentry sucks! Dudley also only averages 24 minutes a game... what a joke!

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    Nash has an edge in shooting and passing but that gets stained with loads of turnovers he creates.
    Nash has a better AST to TO ratio than Dragic so that doesn't seem like much of an argument.

    Dragic is more athletic and a better defender as you say, but I don't think it's enough to make him better than Nash yet.

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    I think Romeo & Juliet is better than both plays.

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    Nash has more than an edge on passing/shooting. He's in the top 10 passers of all time and he's a pretty damn good shooter.

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    Nash has more than an edge on passing/shooting. He's in the top 10 passers of all time and he's a pretty damn good shooter.
    Yup.

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    Nash is better offensively, but a huge liability on defense. He's gonna have trouble against PGs like Williams, Westbrook, Miller, Parker, and Kidd in the playoffs. Dragic may have to play more minutes against those teams.

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    Sup DOK

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    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
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    Nash has a better AST to TO ratio than Dragic so that doesn't seem like much of an argument.
    If Dragič would play with Amare more and with Amundson less he would have more assits and if Nash would play with scrubs more he would have way less assists.

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    No.

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    True is, that Dragič plays with bench players, however he plays also against bench players. He has potential, no doubt.

    And about Gentry - Dragič was pretty misused and lost until Gentry took over.

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    I think Romeo & Juliet is better than both plays.

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    Post AS break Nash's great shooting has been an abortion. Since we're talking about right now and not November, Nash doesn't have much of an edge in shooting.

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    Without Nash the Suns would be at the level of Memphis/Houston. Nah, lower.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    Without Nash the Suns would be at the level of Memphis/Houston. Nah, lower.

    Without Nash, the Suns wouldn't be a le contender, just like how they are with Nash.

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    And you're sugar coating things, they wouldn't be near .500, but I'll take anything over the same tired no defense run and fun bull act I've had to watch fail since 2005.

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    Kill Bill Pana thread.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    Kill Bill Pana thread.

    Unlike the scrubs KBP talks about Goran is actually somewhat proven in the NBA.

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    Unlike the scrubs KBP talks about Goran is actually somewhat proven in the NBA.
    Mostly I was talking about OP's broken English, combined with the fact that he's giving the old, "Foreign player X is better than American All-Star Y" with almost no factual analysis.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    Mostly I was talking about OP's broken English, combined with the fact that he's giving the old, "Foreign player X is better than American All-Star Y" with almost no factual analysis.

    Well, the game Phoenix just lost to Milwaukee is more factual analysis than KBP has ever produced

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    Without Nash the Suns would be at the level of Memphis/Houston. Nah, lower.
    I don't think so.
    Hopefully it will be proven sooner rather than later.
    The offensive drop off would be significant initially, but we wouldn't be running the same offense if Nash were gone.

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    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
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    Mostly I was talking about OP's broken English, combined with the fact that he's giving the old, "Foreign player X is better than American All-Star Y" with almost no factual analysis.
    My english may be broken but I watch every Suns game and it is getting pretty damn obvious that Nash isn't leading this team anywhere.

    And Nash is Canadian btw.

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    Nash is better offensively, but a huge liability on defense. He's gonna have trouble against PGs like Williams, Westbrook, Miller, Parker, and Kidd in the playoffs. Dragic may have to play more minutes against those teams.
    This. I hope they manage both of them appropriately for games but you also have to be careful. When playoff pressure arrives, you'll have to be careful how you play Dragic since he's an unknown right now in that situation for the most part. I have no problem at all if Nash is getting smoked during a critical stretch if they sub Dragic in. However another threat is Dragic may be at a disadvantage since he may get the short end of the stick on calls vs star players.

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    No Sasha, no ring ata's Avatar
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    Mostly I was talking about OP's broken English, combined with the fact that he's giving the old, "Foreign player X is better than American All-Star Y" with almost no factual analysis.
    FYI: Nash is Canadian

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    And you're sugar coating things, they wouldn't be near .500
    Agreed, that's why I added "lower".

    but I'll take anything over the same tired no defense run and fun bull act I've had to watch fail since 2005.
    The reason the Suns aren't contenders isn't because of Nash or style of play; rather a lack of high level talent around Nash.

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