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    Ok, how's this:

    I'll gladly eat my words if "Garret" swoops in from under Pop's pant leg and handles the rock like a champ for 20 minutes a game until Parker and Hill return to the lineup.

    Deal?

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    Ok, how's this:

    I'll gladly eat my words if "Garret" swoops in from under Pop's pant leg and handles the rock like a champ for 20 minutes a game until Parker and Hill return to the lineup.

    Deal?
    That deserves 4 lols, so here's your sign:



    Assuming Manu and Mason both play, Temple has the exact same chance of playing 20 non-garbage time minutes as Jackson would have. Zero.

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    That deserves 4 lols, so here's your sign:



    Assuming Manu and Mason both play, Temple has the exact same chance of playing 20 non-garbage time minutes as Jackson would have. Zero.
    I disagree. If Jackson was on the roster he'd be valuable as a 15-20m guy helping with point guard duties like handling the ball. This would take pressure off the already overworked Ginobili and keep Mason from having to handle the ball much (remember last playoffs? McFly?)

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    I disagree. If Jackson was on the roster he'd be valuable as a 15-20m guy helping with point guard duties like handling the ball.
    I don't see how anyone can come to that conclusion based upon Jackson's 25 minutes of mostly garbage time play with the Spurs in three games this season.

    If you believe that, fine. I won't waste any time trying persuade you otherwise.

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    We would have won yesterday if only Cedric Jackson played.

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    I don't see how anyone can come to that conclusion based upon Jackson's 25 minutes of mostly garbage time play with the Spurs in three games this season.

    If you believe that, fine. I won't waste any time trying persuade you otherwise.
    Well he was rated the top defensive guard in D league. I don't know much about the D league (you'd have to consult the Dumper about that) but that alone should have gotten him the spot on the rotation over "Garret".

    And what's the point of having these guys on the team if your not willing to use em in an emergency situation (like two starters going down)? He'd have been the closest thing to to a point guard this team has right now.

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    IMHO Garret Temple is a bad bb player, not even NBA material. But, Spurs dont hire the guy to handle the rock, they did it just to cover the 13 spot. They dont have any hopes on him becoming an NBA back up PG and he will be gone next season.
    Jerrells is gonna have a shot next year on back up PG duties, not Temple.

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    IMHO Garret Temple is a bad bb player, not even NBA material. But, Spurs dont hire the guy to handle the rock, they did it just to cover the 13 spot. They dont have any hopes on him becoming an NBA back up PG and he will be gone next season.
    Jerrells is gonna have a shot next year on back up PG duties, not Temple.
    Is Jerrels going to get a crack in the rotation now (as in, next game)?

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    Why the ""?

    Anyway, I've already said I won't waste my time trying to change your mind. You may think it's a good idea to play someone with virtually no NBA experience in key portions of games during a playoff push, but NBA coaches would disagree with you.

    Anyway, good luck with your "point of view".

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    Is Jerrels going to get a crack in the rotation now (as in, next game)?
    Would you shut your cryhole if he did?

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    I would like to see Jerrels now, as well but the Toros playoff aspirations takes precedence over the Spurs playoff drive.

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    I would like to see Jerrels now, as well but the Toros playoff aspirations takes precedence over the Spurs playoff drive.
    Do they? I guess we'll find out by Thursday.

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    Why the ""?

    Anyway, I've already said I won't waste my time trying to change your mind. You may think it's a good idea to play someone with virtually no NBA experience in key portions of games during a playoff push, but NBA coaches would disagree with you.

    Anyway, good luck with your "point of view".
    Cuz I don't like the guy, and he's totally redundant on this team. Cedric Jackson should have been kept as insurance seeing as the spurs were already down Parker.

    I could forgive Pop if he'd have cut Jackson before Parker's injury happened but knowing Parker wasn't going to be available the rest of the year and the point guard situation as shaky as it was getting Jackson should have superceded his infatutation with finding the next perfect Finley clone to ogle in practice.

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    I could forgive Pop
    A new record:


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    Is Jerrels going to get a crack in the rotation now (as in, next game)?
    No, he wont.
    Pop's not gonna make a new guy into the rotation with 6 games before PO.
    He wont give Temple time either, just a couple like 5-8 mins a game from now until TP comes back -or GH- to rest Manu.

    Ill say it again. There's no Temple next year, he filled a roster gap of numbers, nothing more.

    Jerrells gonna have a shot next year, not now.

    IMHO Temple will be at summer camp but wont make it to the roster -Jerrells will-.

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    It seems that Pop chose Temple's size and versatility to play both guard positions, over Jackson's ability to primarily play the point. Jackson is known as a good defender, but doesn't Temple have the reputation as a good defender as well? Can't figure out why Coach Tjastal is getting his depins in a bind for a end of a bench guy.

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    Ill say it again. There's no Temple next year, he filled a roster gap of numbers, nothing more.
    The Spurs only had to sign one Dleaguer to meet the minimum roster size. They signed three.

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    The Spurs only had to sign one Dleaguer to meet the minimum roster size. They signed three.
    Jerrells was signed to prevet him from doing it with other teams, that says a lot.

    Same line goes to Alonzo Gee.

    But they are gonna check them in summer camp just to be sure.

    Temple is the one being signed to fill the gap, the rest were signed to prevent them going to another team.

    Temple will be gone next season, hes not NBA material... C'mon...

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    It seems that Pop chose Temple's size and versatility to play both guard positions, over Jackson's ability to primarily play the point. Jackson is known as a good defender, but doesn't Temple have the reputation as a good defender as well? Can't figure out why Coach Tjastal is getting his depins in a bind for a end of a bench guy.
    His whole rant is about choosing Temple over Jackson, when that's not what happened. They signed Jerrells three days after they cut Jackson. Temple was still on his 10-day contract at the time Jackson was cut and was signed to an end of season deal when that expired.

    The Spurs have 3 Dleaguers under contract now in Jerrells, Temple, and Gee. That's one developmental PG, one developmental SG/PG, and one developmental SG/SF. Which makes sense when you look at how many players they have signed at those positions for next year.

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    Jerrells was signed to prevet him from doing it with other teams, that says a lot.

    Same line goes to Alonzo Gee.

    But they are gonna check them in summer camp just to be sure.

    Temple is the one being signed to fill the gap, the rest were signed to prevent them going to another team.

    Temple will be gone next season, hes not NBA material... C'mon...
    Sorry, that makes no sense.

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    It seems that Pop chose Temple's size and versatility to play both guard positions, over Jackson's ability to primarily play the point. Jackson is known as a good defender, but doesn't Temple have the reputation as a good defender as well? Can't figure out why Coach Tjastal is getting his depins in a bind for a end of a bench guy.
    Those "end of the bench" guys are there for a reason namely in a case of emergencies. And I think losing your main point guard and backup point guard is enough to cons ute some concern.

    The main "concern" being overloading Manu Ginobili in the last week of the season with too many responsiblities and burning him out just before the playoffs start. I know this isn't a big "concern" for the carefree crowd here but I'm concerned.

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    His whole rant is about choosing Temple over Jackson, when that's not what happened. They signed Jerrells three days after they cut Jackson. Temple was still on his 10-day contract at the time Jackson was cut and was signed to an end of season deal when that expired.

    The Spurs have 3 Dleaguers under contract now in Jerrells, Temple, and Gee. That's one developmental PG, one developmental SG/PG, and one developmental SG/SF. Which makes sense when you look at how many players they have signed at those positions for next year.
    Let's put it this way:
    Temple was kicked out of Sac and believe me, Sac fans were about to throw things into the court every time they saw him standing up to get inside.
    They hated the guy, and they were right, he sucked there.
    We are talking about a guy that couldn't make it to the Rockets roster...
    He's not NBA ready, and his stats in the Vipers are not good enough. Pop's gonna cut him out of the team as soon as this season is over. He will send him to summer camp just to give him a shot.
    Thats the way I see it.
    And I dont believe Cedric Jackson is good either. He showed a couple more things than Temple but he's not NBA ready either (but will have more shots than Temple).

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    Let's put it this way:
    Temple was kicked out of Sac and believe me, Sac fans were about to throw things into the court every time they saw him standing up to get inside.
    They hated the guy, and they were right, he sucked there.
    We are talking about a guy that couldn't make it to the Rockets roster...
    He's not NBA ready, and his stats in the Vipers are not good enough. Pop's gonna cut him out of the team as soon as this season is over. He will send him to summer camp just to give him a shot.
    Thats the way I see it.
    And I dont believe Cedric Jackson is good either. He showed a couple more things than Temple but he's not NBA ready either (but will have more shots than Temple).
    If Jacque Vaughn can make it on the spurs as an "NBA ready" 3rd string pg for years then surely Ced Jackson is capable. I thought in his sparse PT he showed way more talent than Vaughn had. But I digress...

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    Sorry, that makes no sense.
    Dunno why you say that, maybe my english failed?
    That's the truth, you can search articles and see the reasons behind Gee and Jerrells contracts.

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