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I would not change a thing---Dice to start---Bonner off the bench
At their best, both players can be effective floor spreaders at the PF position. At their worst, one is a unreliable 3pt shooter and a defensive liability and the other is a s of his former self with a bad handle.
Bonner has played well as of late, adding a nifty little floater to his anemic offensive arsenal. McDyess has a decent performance about every third game, grabbing a half dozen boards and hitting a couple of his patented 15' jumpers.
McDyess is a playoff tested vet who has always been able to notch it up in the post season. Bonner is a occasional regular season wonder boy who has consistently been a non-factor in the playoffs.
So, with the post season around the corner, who do you trust?
Last edited by ohmwrecker; 04-05-2010 at 07:01 PM.
I would not change a thing---Dice to start---Bonner off the bench
I trust neither. Bonner has had a better year, but the playoffs are the proving grounds. I still hold (stupidly) out hope that Dice can flip a switch.
Neither. I think both should get about equal playing time. Both should get good minutes since Blair won't be seeing much playing time, most likely.
Bonner is gaining my trust but we'll see how he does.
There's still the playoffs for Dice but I dont trust him. His 2nd half performance isnt that impressive so I dont know if he'll be that much better by the playoffs. Hope I'm wrong.
I'm not sure which one I trust more.
Dice should get to start as of right now. If Bonner plays like he's been playing lately in the first couple of games in the playoffs, maybe we can switch that. Bonner's a little taller, can shoot the 3's, is developing a great running hook, and is younger, but he's still a liability on the defense. Bonner seems to be ever improving right now though, McDyess just seems to be playing a little better at times.
Neither one.
Lost among all the excitement of the win the other day, were some good rebounds Dice picked up, especially at the end of the game. Based on the fact that he's capable of rebounding in double figures I would take him.
We need them both, so I trust both of them.
Bonner is actually good at defense. he's not as bad as people make him out to be, and there's worse on the team in McDyess and Mason (although Mason is so much worse than both of these guys, he shouldn'e be inlcuded in the same sentence).
where bonner sucks is his rebounding. he just isn't tall enough, doesn't have the build. he tries, but that just isn't enough.
he's been the beneficiary of Jefferson's newfound resolve to get after the boards because he isn't nearly as exposed. Hill is also a good rebounder for his position so that helps as well. it's going to be really really hard to have Bonner in there along with Mason in this upcoming stretch (assumming Pop goes with mason rather than temple) because Mason is such a horrible rebounder. not having hill in there will affect Bonner in a bad way in that he'll be asked to do something he won't be able to do. Mason, however, lacks some of the physical toold to be a decent rebounder but is constantly being outhustled and out of position to get rebounds.
Stunning insight, Senor. Come on, man. You could debate different in game scenarios or match-ups vs. potential playoff opponents. The possibilities are endless . . . No? Nothing? . . .
They'll both play in the playoffs and Dice will be the starter; he'll likely average a lot more minutes than usual though.
Ultimately it'll depend on match-ups, health, and how well either player is doing when it comes to who'll get more minutes.
Bonner
They're our shooters. I hope they trust themselves more then their fans do.
Mcdyess when he is making his jumper and not being a zombie.
OK. If you pin me down, I'd have to say Dice - for the simple fact that he's done it before on a big stage. He's been an integral part of several Pistons playoff teams over the past several years. I admit I've been worried about him because, up until recently, I've not seen much from him this season, leading me to believe that he might be done. However, it seems that he's awakened from his season-long slumber and has been pretty stout the past several games against superior compe ion. Grabbing key rebounds, scoring on put-backs, fighting for post position and defending admirably. Still, I would like to see him score more around the basket, but if he can hit that elbow jumper with his usual regularity, I'd be happy. To give the Spurs their best chance, he's got to produce in his time on the floor.
As for Bonner, he too, has been playing very well of late. However, I trust him considerably less because he's been a very poor playoff performer, in his short stint with the Spurs. I still remember him bricking wide-open 3-balls during the past two postseasons. Phil Jackson basically dared him to shoot by rolling his defense away from Bonner in the 2008 postseason - and it worked. Until Bonner does something in the playoffs, he cannot be trusted. Just my opinion.
That's what I'm talking about!
We've had this conversation before. Bonner failing vs. the Lakers in the 2008 WCF is a figment of your imagination.
Dyess easily. As others have said, Dyess' PO history>>>>>>> Bonner's PO history. Until Bonner proves otherwise in consecutive series he can have a >40% 3FG night every 2 or 3 games, without any 0-5 or 3-8 performances, he might come close to earning more trust than Dyess. That's only if Dice doesn't truly wake up in two weeks.
Duncan rates Dice for defense in the low post, Dice did a good job on Howard.
Red rockets most value is when he's scoring well, therefore I think he fits the second unit as we have enough fire power to start.
But a defensive big after Duncan is where we lack so playing Dice with Duncan leave us open with the second unit.
Both have shown good signs of late, hopefully Dice brings his game to the playoffs a late run to find form I know but the Spurs left there run late also.
Um, Bonner played a grand total of nine minutes in the entire 2008 postseason against the Suns, Hornets, and Lakers.
Mcdyess. He's proven lately he's reliable in big games.
...and versus the Mavs last spring?
He sucked against the Mavs. Just stop saying he sucked in the last two post-seasons, he only sucked in the five games against Dallas.
Bonner.
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