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pretty spot on
We need a young big talented body and quick
Dyess is worth what he's making? and what about RJ, Manu's better than RJ, how dare we offer him less than 15 mil per year.
or is the logic here that one mistake deserves another, and that in turn another, and...
pretty spot on
We need a young big talented body and quick
If Team Z doesn't accept it, Player Y walks to Team X for absolutely nothing and Player Y's agent remembers Team Z screwing his client over, and steers his other players away from signing there. So, Team Z gets ed twice.
As for the sweet offers, rascal, Manu's not a base year compensation player, so he can still be traded.
Only if:
1. Manu wants to go a team that has such a player
2. The other team is interested in giving up such a player.
Highly unlikely. The one place such a trade could have happened would have been with New York in an exchange of sign and traded players for David Lee. Then you just have to believe that Manu would be interested in playing for the Knicks and that the Spurs would be a better team with Lee than with Manu. I don't believe either of those things are true.
The Spurs choices with regard to Manu are to keep him or let him go. They have apparently decided to keep him.
Neither of which could be had for anywhere near $14 million/season, if they could be had at all. Let's face it, the amount of players you could have that have the ceiling Gino has for $14M/season is quite limited.
Not to mention none of them would guarantee the season ticket sales that a fan favorite like Manu already does.
As timvp said earlier, if the Spurs are overpaying now, they only have themselves to blame for it. He could been had for $10M/season earlier in the year.
I don't think there is another player in the league that is as much fun to watch. And he is one of the very few players that can truly put a team on his back and carry them to a W. I'm really glad he's coming back. I would love to know what he could have accomplished all these years as a full-time starter. I'm also glad he's getting a good payday. He's earned it. He'll be a part of San Antonio as long as he chooses to stay here.
That being said, I really hope he doesn't play summer ball. Even if he doesn't sustain an obvious injury doing it, the wear and tear takes a toll. And, like it or not, the years add up. He needs to take some rest between seasons.
Resigning Manu doesn't make that any less likely though.
I mean, the MLE is still there to go for a guy like Splitter.
No, Manu will not walk. Manu wanted to stay with san Antonio all along.
So Splitter is the answer to the frontline? This is a major concern with the spurs being stuck with little options other than Splitter
Big upgrade with an unproven big who could be no better than a low end role player in the NBA.
You've danced and evaded, but never directly answered the question.I guess the Spurs have no desire to remain compe ive after this year
How does signing Manu make the Spurs less compe ive next year?
Yeah, I'm so glad we signed C. Webb instead of Robinson in the summer of 2001... oh wait.
Is this high? Sure. Would he get more in the market? Definitely. For better or worse, the Spurs have a history of rewarding certain players for time served.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Tim extend for another year so the two contracts coincide. I dont think the Spurs had a better option than this. They couldnt trade for or sign a higher level guard than Manu, and this isnt the time to trade for picks.
Also, I don't see how this is tied to re-signing Manu. We were'nt going to have cap space to sign any new big man, regardless. We could trade Manu/Parker or some package of players... but that's still an option. So I'm not really sure what difference any of this makes in regards to getting a big man.
So Manu doesn't walk, but the Spurs sign and trade him? I don't get it.
I don't expect him to play this summer. He is having twins and will have his hands full. That will be his big excuse or reason to not play but he will probably also tell the spurs he will not be playing.
letting him walk for nothing is better for the future success of this team than signing him for 40 mil, that 40 mill will get us a couple extra wins next year, but in 2011/12 and 2012/13, it will destroy our ability rebuild, to sign players who are actually worth the money
who do the Lakers overpay? who have any of those teams overpaid? and how many of them have championships?
Lakers open the wallet for premium talent, not for nostalgia
Cavs and Magic are trying to keep top young talent from leaving, so over-paying now for a few guys to keep their Stars happy will pay off for them in the long run.
the Mavs continually spend as much as possible, and still no les, even with a top all-time player in Dirk.
and the Nuggets have a better record than the Spurs, with a payroll 5 million less, right now, before Manu's contract even startsif they resign Martin for 40 million, then they'll be as stupid as the Spurs and bad teams
nice try though
It is what it is. They took a gamble on Dice and we'll see if it pays off this postseason. The reality though is that good big men don't grow on trees and that the next possibility of acquiring a relatively expensive big (somewhere around $15 million/season) would be when RJ's contract is expiring. None of that has really changed by resigning Manu.
Told ya ers!
You said if the spurs don't accept some crappy offer from a team in a sign and trade than manu walks. I say he doesn't walk. The spurs will either like the sign and trade offer and he agrees to be traded for big money or he stays with the Spurs because what he really wants is to stay with the spurs but he will go if the spurs say they want to deal him.
we agree on that, now I'm not sure Splitter is the answer.
tbh I was wondering myself if this couldn't lead to a parker trade. I mean the FO knows that we need a big body out there to keep on being compe ive, the only valuable asset we have now is TP.
This is not what I want but I feel it's a possibility. I'm not smart enough to know if the probability of this possibility has increased or not after this signing but it's a concern.
Really? Can you tell me how much they're paying for the Walton/Vujacic/Fisher trio?
I guess you magic ball can also tell you Kobe will be worth the $30M they'll be paying him 3 years from now...
Why? He can just as easily become a free agent and decide then with other offers in hand...
I have not, and you have changed the terms to next year. (signing Manu probably futilely helps us a little next year, but we won't be a contender anyways, so what's the point? 40 million for a few extra regular season wins in 2010/11)
How would signing Bonner for 3 years/30 million make the Spurs less compe ive? If you can answer this question, than you have the answer to your own, if you cannot answer this question, then you obviously can not understand much of anything and I'm wasting my time responding to you
He doesn't want to just leave. he would prefer to stay with the Spurs.
The question is who can be had and for how much. As seen this season and now the next few, the ownership is not afraid to go into lux tax territory if needed. The thing is, a lot of people have different ideas of what an actual upgrade looks like.we agree on that, now I'm not sure Splitter is the answer.
tbh I was wondering myself if this couldn't lead to a parker trade. I mean the FO knows that we need a big body out there to keep on being compe ive, the only valuable asset we have now is TP.
This is not what I want but I feel it's a possibility. I'm not smart enough to know if the probability of this possibility has increased or not after this signing but it's a concern.
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