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Cuban is a re .
Cuban is a re .
Ooh, that's quite a burn from Verne Troyer.
FO.Ooh, that's quite a burn from Verne Troyer.
Cuban is such a born winner at everything he does he carries his blind stupid sense of optimism into his rich man's fantasy basketball experiment.
you dallas fans act like you don't care at all... when in reality you do.Ooh, that's quite a burn from Verne Troyer.
just admit it. dallas sucks when it counts.
spurs.
Those 4 rings don't do any good at covering up spurfans insecurities and butthurt caused by Cuban everytime he makes a statement.
your team must win a championship to post here.
Okay Moderator.
Just admit it. You can't see your penis in the shower.you dallas fans act like you don't care at all... when in reality you do.
just admit it. dallas sucks when it counts.
spurs.
FOUR RINGS GOT!
Agreed. The Mavs can beat any WC team. If I were the Lakers, I'd hate to play them.
Obviously, Hollinger was still right, much to the chagrin of Mavs fans.
What was he right about? That we're not as good as Orlando or Cleveland? That the trade didn't put us on their level? Sure, I can agree with that.
Or was he right that we're the 15th-best team in the league?
That they were being overrated and would regress to the mean in terms of W/L.
I think the Mavericks are a team that is much more dangerous in the playoffs. They're dangerous to teams that rely on a couple of dominant scorers and shot-creators on the half-court. They flood the strongside very well. Plus, Carlisle is an excellent game-manager and very good exploring matchups. PLayoffs series and close games are his environment.
Is it normal this late in the season for a team to have 8 more wins than what their point differential says they should have? Mavs Pyt. W-L record is 43-35. According to Hollinger, the Mavs 51-27 record is a fluke, and quality-wise, they are a 43-35 team. It's my understanding that he considers close games decided by 5 or less to essentially be coin-flip affairs, regardless of the quality of the two teams involved. Therefore if the Mavs have a great record in close games, that's just heads coming up a few more times than tails according to him.
But given Carlisle's track record as an excellent game manager, Kidd's "quarterbacking" and basketball IQ for lack of a better term, and the two-man game between Dirk and Terry when you need to consistently get good looks offensively in half-court sets during crunchtime, is it all that fluky that they are 51-27 and are good in close games?
It's not fluky they win a higher % of close games than most teams. They lead the league last season in close games and are leading it this season meaning there's something to it (the factors you pointed, IMO). It's fluky if they're winning 0.880 of their close games (which they aren't any more, they're at 0.738 right now) and the record is fluky if pretty much every win is close and every loss is large.
Not exactly. Good teams will still win a larger % of their close games. But one should expect the best team in the league to win 60ish% of them and the worst team to win 20ish%. I mean, besides the Mavs no team in the last 3 seasons won >70% of their close games.It's my understanding that he considers close games decided by 5 or less to essentially be coin-flip affairs, regardless of the quality of the two teams involved.
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Let's not forget Hollinger was writing in the context of the Mavs winning like 15 games in a row after a significant trade. His point - or at least mine, I didn't pay much attention to what he wrote - was more in the lines "hold on your horses, they didn't become much better, they aren't as good as they're looking now, they won't get the #1 seed, they aren't that distant from whichever team that will get the #8".
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I-R-O-N-Y.
cuban sucks
In my opinion he's not really saying much then. They're not as good as the .1000 Winning Percentage they racked up during a 13-game winning streak? Is that the top headline on No News.com? I just didn't understand why he was so dismissive of that streak when the Lakers, Hawks, Bobcats, Suns and Magic were among their victims.
I also have a hard time understanding why he thinks Butler/Haywood is only a piddling and incremental upgrade over Howard/Gooden. Butler plays hard every night and is a lot tougher than Howard. He doesn't have a huge at ude problem either. Gooden is a gifted low-post scorer, but the Mavs were trying to get by playing him lots of minutes at the 5. From what I've seen of Haywood so far, I'd like a bit more consistency out of him, but he's a big upgrade when it comes to the distribution of Gooden's minutes.
It's also not really much of a slam on the Mavs to say that 2-8 are pretty damn close in terms of quality. Whether Hollinger was trying to make a dig at the Mavs or Mavs fans were being sensitive and taking umbrage, I don't know.
"We know we can kill anybody, in the regular season."
A fun game I like to play sometimes is to get into a conversation with a Spurs fan and see how long it takes him or her to say "FOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS" (or some derivative).
I think it was Stern (or somebody else in high authority) who said "Thou Shalt Not Kill."
Last edited by BillMc; 04-08-2010 at 10:50 AM.
You hit the nail on the head.
Cuban didn't make his money by accident. He's an excellent businessman. He's got a great instinct for what's going to sell and how to capitalize. And he's pretty smooth when he's wheeling and dealing.
But he's passionate about basketball to the point where all of his discipline goes out the window. My lasting memory of Cuban will always be when he got in Stern's face after losing in 2006 and told him that his league was rigged. Clearly not a good business decision there. He's acting on pure emotion ... like any idiot fan would. There's also stuff like yelling to Kenyon Martin's mom that her son was a thug. Or yelling at J.R. Smith for throwing an elbow.
Cuban the businessman is a great owner. Cuban the idiot fan makes your eyes roll and ask ... "How did this guy get to be a billionare?"
The reason why spursfans would ever bring up such a thing is because a team that is more notorious for choking than Tracy McGrady should never consult a Championship team. I.E. number 1 seed ousted in first round, or going up 2-0 in finals to then get swept and lose series....Cuban will never get a championship saying things such as this because he creates bullentin board material for any team that comes up against them and he never touches the court!
i can't see my penis in the shower because my four hugeare in the way.
For a team that has never won spit, they sure think a lot of themselves..
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