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    Fact is we need a Roger Mason Jr. of last year in order to win a championship. Seriously.

    We need a guy who can knock down a few 3s for us on dribble penetration.

    Bogans isn't doing it. How many wide open 3s has Bogans bricked so far?

    Ginobili and Bonner cannot carry the 3 point load by themselves. They are going to have off nights at the 3 point line every now and then, so we ideally need one solid 3 point shooting role player to fill that gap.


    RMJ should've been that for us, and almost needs to be that for us if we even want to dream of a le.

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    we should sit him on someone's bench!

    i am officially off the RMJ bus! i was a closet RMJ fan but i cant do it anymore

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    Fact is we need a Roger Mason Jr. of last year in order to win a championship. Seriously.

    We need a guy who can knock down a few 3s for us on dribble penetration.

    Bogans isn't doing it. How many wide open 3s has Bogans bricked so far?

    Ginobili and Bonner cannot carry the 3 point load by themselves. They are going to have off nights at the 3 point line every now and then, so we ideally need one solid 3 point shooting role player to fill that gap.


    RMJ should've been that for us, and almost needs to be that for us if we even want to dream of a le.
    George Hill.

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    we should sit him on someone's bench!

    i am officially off the RMJ bus! i was a closet RMJ fan but i cant do it anymore
    I'm still riding. And hoping he'll catch fire in a few critical games this year in the playoffs to get his confidence humming. I have this feeling come playoff time at some point Temple is going to fold like a wet paper bag, Bogans will be bricking shots and making idiotic passes and Pop is going to turn to Roger for some relief.

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    I used to be a fan of Roger Mason Jr. His X-Mas shot against PHX was epic and he had some other buzzer beaters/game winners last season. He seemed like a great guy and his comments about wanting to retire as a Spur and liking SA is great to hear.

    Then he crumbled in the playoffs and since the rodeo trip his shot has been MIA. Not to mention him asking for more minutes or to be traded and the Spurs pulled the trigger; unfortunately Miami's second round pick expired or w/e.

    Mason Jr. is a good guy but he hasn't shown that he deserves his minutes over anybody. However Hill is injured so he's going to have his opportunities to prove otherwise.

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    My appendix is contributes more than Moneyless Mase.

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    yea i feel you but what about the bad shots he takes
    His shot selection is about the same as it was last year. The difference is this year they aren't going in so you think they're poor shots.

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    I've never seen the evidence that Mason is a decent defender, nor any hustle from him. Mason just doesn't even seem to want to compete. As far as his ballhandling, hes average for a sg, below average for a pg. Basically if mason isn't hitting his jumper, hes worthless. Maybe, once his hand fully heals he can make a come back for some other team, but, man I haven't seen a guy just totally go from a solid role player, to in one season.
    Once you say this, it's pretty clear that you have your mind made up on him.

    Basically if Mason isn't hitting his jumper he's Keith Bogans.

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    the question doesn't need to be answered. with Tony back and Hill there just won't be minutes for Mason in the PO rotation.
    point and wing will be covered by Tony, GH, Manu and RJ playing 33-35 minutes each. what's left goes to Bogans (5-10 MPG).

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    Once you say this, it's pretty clear that you have your mind made up on him.

    Basically if Mason isn't hitting his jumper he's Keith Bogans.
    if you honestly believe that masons defense is on par with bogans then i feel sorry for you.

    Bogans isn't some savior or anything but his defense especially for the past few weeks has been very nice. He is a lot more versatile then mason..

    just look at temple... playing the same position thats asked by mason to play since tony has been out and temple scored 15 and made some nice passes last night.

    Mason is complete garbage. he will play for the minimum next year.

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    RMJ was really disappointing starting with last year's playoffs. I wonder what happened to his psyche...he won at least 3 or 4 games during last year's regular season by dropping 3's at the buzzer.

    Last year 3pt% was 42.1%, now it's 33.6%.

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    Mason's defense at its best isn't even as good as Bogans at his worst. If Mason's shot isn't falling(and it rarely is), he's worthless. Temple is a better ball handler than him, so I'd rather have Temple running the point when TP and George are out of the game.

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    RMJ was really disappointing starting with last year's playoffs. he won at least 3 or 4 games during last year's regular season by dropping 3's at the buzzer.

    Last year 3pt% was 42.1%, now it's 33.6%. He hurt his hand, sure, but what about last year's playoffs? Has his hand been hurt this entire season? I don't think so. Must be psychological.

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    if you honestly believe that masons defense is on par with bogans then i feel sorry for you.

    Bogans isn't some savior or anything but his defense especially for the past few weeks has been very nice. He is a lot more versatile then mason..
    Mason's defense IS on par with Bogans, which is to say that Mason's not that bad and Bogans isn't that good. The real difference is that Bogans weighs a little more and has gotten the lion's share of the starts, minutes, and confidence this season. Bogans for the last few weeks has been less than the sieve that he was for most of the season, and has managed to score a bit and make some good passes. I'm glad he's contributing, as it's been good for the team, but if Mason returns to a fraction of what he was before Pop's failed backup point guard experiment, he'll quickly eclipse Bogans in usefulness.

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    Mason's defense IS on par with Bogans, which is to say that Mason's not that bad and Bogans isn't that good. The real difference is that Bogans weighs a little more and has gotten the lion's share of the starts, minutes, and confidence this season. Bogans for the last few weeks has been less than the sieve that he was for most of the season, and has managed to score a bit and make some good passes. I'm glad he's contributing, as it's been good for the team, but if Mason returns to a fraction of what he was before Pop's failed backup point guard experiment, he'll quickly eclipse Bogans in usefulness.
    of course. now its pops fault. at least your consistent

    and masons defense isn't anything close to bogans...

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    going into the playoffs should we bench mason because he can hurt this team bad if he continues to play the way he is but then again if he gets on fire he can help us what yall think
    Pop is looking like an idiot every time he plays. Mason doesn't give a about this team. He sucks.

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    of course. now its pops fault. at least your consistent

    and masons defense isn't anything close to bogans...
    You can tell by many of Obstructed_View's posts, that he doesn't think highly of Pop. I think Pop must be Obstructed_View's neighbor and cause Pop never says hi to him, he hates em.

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    i was expecting RMJ to contribute this season, but all he does is brick shots now and turn the ball over. I like him, but he hasn't proved he deserves quality minutes.

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    Well, mason scored a ton and hit his 3's. However, his +/- indicate he must have been a liability on defense I guess. So I don't know.

    I got the sense that we would have lost by more without him tonight.

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    Mason scored tonight, but everyone he defended scored at will. I'm just glad he doesn't have a player option this summer. Right?!

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    Waive this er... he should follow Finley to Boston to get his minutes...

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    Waive this er... he should follow Finley to Boston to get his minutes...
    I gotta say, this new protocol is da , thanks for everyone who has made it possible. Having a scapegoat on the team so nobody else's performance ever has to judged.. really keeps those pesky Tony Parker threads at bay.

    It's real simple to. Lose a game? Blame Mason. Win a game? Blame Mason. Never mind about other stats like the team shooting 6-25 from the arc or missing 11 freebies, nah we can just blame Roger Mason for everything that goes wrong (or right) from now on.

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    I gotta say, this new protocol is da , thanks for everyone who has made it possible. Having a scapegoat on the team so nobody else's performance ever has to judged.. really keeps those pesky Tony Parker threads at bay.

    It's real simple to. Lose a game? Blame Mason. Win a game? Blame Mason. Never mind about other stats like the team shooting 6-25 from the arc or missing 11 freebies, nah we can just blame Roger Mason for everything that goes wrong (or right) from now on.
    Quote where I blame Mason for the loss?

    I blame Mason for Mason's poor defensive play. I do it when we win, and I do it when we lose. This is a guy that was asking to be traded because he thought he should get minutes, and when the minutes are handed to him, he proceeds to confirm why he wasn't getting any minutes.
    We're 70+ games into the season now. We have a big sample size to see what this guy brings to the table. Being that he's a Spur, I really wish he would do well, but wishing doesn't get it done.

    Again, feel free to pack his bags and walk away with him when he's gone this summer...

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    Quote where I blame Mason for the loss?

    I blame Mason for Mason's poor defensive play. I do it when we win, and I do it when we lose. This is a guy that was asking to be traded because he thought he should get minutes, and when the minutes are handed to him, he proceeds to confirm why he wasn't getting any minutes.
    We're 70+ games into the season now. We have a big sample size to see what this guy brings to the table. Being that he's a Spur, I really wish he would do well, but wishing doesn't get it done.

    Again, feel free to pack his bags and walk away with him when he's gone this summer...
    I think his defense isn't nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. Sure its not on the level of George Hill but its equal to Parker or Bonner at the very least. Who torched the spurs tonight? Nash, Stoudemire, Richardson, Frye, and Hill... none of whom Mason exclusively guarded IIRC. I don't have the game DVR'd or I would go back through the entire tape and bring exacting evidence.....

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    I think his defense isn't nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. Sure its not on the level of George Hill but its equal to Parker or Bonner at the very least. Who torched the spurs tonight? Nash, Stoudemire, Richardson, Frye, and Hill... none of whom Mason exclusively guarded IIRC. I don't have the game DVR'd or I would go back through the entire tape and bring exacting evidence.....
    Go watch it again. He was assigned to Nash and Richardson most of the night.

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