Time to trade Tony Parker

[spurs4real]

Its time, last year i wrote about him not passing the ball, he does'nt make his team better, there's no ball movement amongst the team only isolated plays for him and if he cant do anything with the play he'll pass the ball to Duncan or Ginobili who are just caught standing still with no movement toward the basket.

Now more than ever, its evident, Hill is our Avery Johnson but more athletic, and gets his team moving through passing, cutting, moving without the ball only to receive the ball to then pass to an open shooter or cutter.

Hill, Duncan, Ginobili is our new big three.

Trade Parker to a team in need of a PG who has a REAL CENTER too many to offer us. Trust that we can get another good player(s) or even a first round pick for Parker easy.

We dont need an Allen Iverson impersonator. we all know how that worked out, people get tired of a scoring PG.

PG means Distribute the ball, not score at will.

[FalleNxWiZarDx]

Dont get me wrong, your are correct when it comes to getting his team moving through passing, cutting, moving without the ball only to receive the ball to then pass to an open shooter or cutter

Parker was doing this during yalls Prime Times.....

But last year it seem that you guys didnt have anybody who could score the ball, and Parker had to simply Dominate...

This year is different, and he has to simply adjust to it... injuries dont help him either

If healthy, Parker is TOP 3 Point guards in the NBA, give him time to gell with his new teamates.... let him get back into game shape

[JR3]

lets see how this season ends... we already know we are a damn good team without parker.. if he gels with what we got going, then its all gravy and we have another player that can take over a game... if he screws up the chemistry, I would consider all options for him this summer.

[Ocotillo]

I am open to trading Tony if the right deal is to be had.

I am not open to trading Parker simply because George Hill is playing well up until his sprain. Parker and Hill as a backcourt is strong.

The right deal would have to be a of a deal though.

[z0sa]

The right deal would have to be a of a deal

[spurs4real]

I am open to trading Tony if the right deal is to be had.

I am not open to trading Parker simply because George Hill is playing well up until his sprain. Parker and Hill as a backcourt is strong.

The right deal would have to be a of a deal though.

And Im sure we could get a Great Deal for Parker next year. Starting Hill over Parker in the playoffs would be a dream come true. Or atleast let Hill finish the games.

[robot89]

tp for the caveman

[urunobili]

[ohmwrecker]

George Hill is not ready to take over this team! There. I said it.

[johnnyblues]

George Hill is not ready to take over this team! There. I said it.

[TimmehC]

Ridiculous. Dude's been playing hurt all season, while trying to adapt to all kinds of personnel changes. If he takes the summer off and gets fully healthy, he'll be as good as ever, and he'll have a real chance to gell with this new lineup.

[sonic21]

[ohmwrecker]

Ah . . . yes, I see your point. Jean Luc Picard should coach the team next year . . . Genius!

[Whisky Dog]

Too bad NO didn't give us Paul for him. Manu + Paul backcourt would be fun

[mogrovejo]

I think the Spurs should consider it.

1. Manu playing PG full-time is a top-5 PG in the NBA.

2. Hill can develop into one of those elite role-players, like Varejão or Battier.

So:
3. Hill and Manu is a great combo.

4. Parker becomes a little redundant.

And:

5. Parker should have good trade value.

So for the first time in history:

6. From the Spurs perspective, Parker's value as a trade asset is probably bigger than his value as a contributor.

[ohmwrecker]

Too bad NO didn't give us Paul for him. Manu + Paul backcourt would be fun

Do you mean the Chris Paul that until recently has been injured all year?

[Whisky Dog]

Do you mean the Chris Paul that until recently has been injured all year?

Until recently is the key. Having him playing like he is on the Spurs right now would make them true beasts.

[Whisky Dog]

Plus, Parker's been gimpy all year too.

[NFGIII]

Its time, last year i wrote about him not passing the ball, he does'nt make his team better, there's no ball movement amongst the team only isolated plays for him and if he cant do anything with the play he'll pass the ball to Duncan or Ginobili who are just caught standing still with no movement toward the basket.

Slow down and wait to see what happens in the POs. Even though you are correct about the ball movement it's Pop who wanted that style of play. He understand that Tp is a score first PG and encouraed TP to take it to the rim. That has lead to 3 rings.

Now more than ever, its evident, Hill is our Avery Johnson but more athletic, and gets his team moving through passing, cutting, moving without the ball only to receive the ball to then pass to an open shooter or cutter.

Hill, Duncan, Ginobili is our new big three.

Hill is a combo guard who is just as guilty of not passing the ball as is TP.
His apg is 2.90 and TP's is 6.50 this year - overall is 6.1. I don't have the stats for the 41 games he started so I would believe that 2.90 to be higher and be in range with TP.

Check of Timvp's thead below for a comparison of the two:

Heading into this season, many Spurs fans were talking about the reins being handed over from Tim Duncan to Tony Parker. However, after a slew of injuries combined with relatively poor play, a vocal minority of Spurs fans are talking quite differently: Are these Spurs better without Tony Parker?

The theory goes that since Parker is a scoring point guard, his skillset no longer meshes well with the more well-rounded roster, thus the Spurs are better with a more passive, defensive-minded player like George Hill running point guard and Manu Ginobili orchestrating the show.

I compared the numbers from the 26 games Parker has missed this season to the 50 games Parker has played in to see what the statistics have to say on this matter.

I'm honestly surprised the numbers are so close. Subjectively, the Spurs play a different brand of basketball without Parker. But statistically speaking, there really isn't much of a difference. With Parker, the Spurs have outscored the opponents by 5.49 points per 100 possessions. Without Parker, that number drops to 5.31.

Looking at those numbers, it isn't fair to say Parker has hurt the Spurs this season. It is fair, however, to say that Parker hasn't been much more of an asset this season than what San Antonio is getting from George Hill.

If you compare the Parker's advanced stats to Hill's advanced stats, the case against Parker becomes even more difficult to make.

Overall, these number reinforce a few points. First of all, Hill should be commended for the job he has done filling in for Parker. He's had big shoes to fill and has done about as well as possible. The dropoff from Parker to Hill this season has been minimal. That said, if a constantly injured s of what was supposed to be Tony Parker helped this team, I'm excited to see how much Parker can help once he's actually playing well.

So the difference isn't much and until we have a backup PG it would be best not to trade TP. Even though Temple has looked good lately there is a reason thathe has been on three teams this year. Prior to the GS game he wasn't very good. Maybe he has turned the corner but until we see more consistently out of him I'd rather not bank on him as the backup PG.

Trade Parker to a team in need of a PG who has a REAL CENTER too many to offer us. Trust that we can get another good player(s) or even a first round pick for Parker easy.

We dont need an Allen Iverson impersonator. we all know how that worked out, people get tired of a scoring PG.

PG means Distribute the ball, not score at will.

I really don't think any team in this league has a real center too many. Some teams don't have one, just look at the Spurs - they don't have one and haven't since '07 if you don't count TD as a 5.


IMHO I think the jury about Hill being our starting PG is still out. He seems to play better at the 2 rather than the 1.

[dbestpro]

OK you are Toronto and Bosh wants to come back to Texas. The only way that happens is through a sign and trade. Dallas offers Terry, Houston talks about Ariza and Battier, while San Antonio throws out the names in any combination, Parker, Dice, Bonner (sign and trade/Toronto fan favorite) Splitter rights and Blair.

Just sayin.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...38893/20801400

[DesignatedT]

this is just getting ridiculous

[mfanatic]

If we know for a fact Splitter is coming over, I have NP with trading parker and mason for bayless, batum and fernandez !

[vander]

Spurs just signed Manu, they're not going to turn next year into a transitional year by trading TP. they just went all in with this group of guys.

but before yesterday I also wanted to trade him, better than letting him walk, and whoever gives him his next contract will be substantially overpaying.

[DesignatedT]

If we know for a fact Splitter is coming over, I have NP with trading parker and mason for bayless, batum and fernandez !

those 3 players make like a total of 4 mil a year.

[FkLA]

Andrew Bynum

do it RC