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why the would we want to trade tony
This thread is in response to the Thread of wanting to trade Tony Parker.
I don't get some Spurs fans.
Tony Parker, since 2001, has done everything the Spurs have asked him to.
He came here as a 19 year old and developed his game and has become an integral part of the Spurs franchise.
The Spurs have decided the Big 3 (Tony, Tim, and Manu) are the core of the team.
I know with great success sometimes people get bored and want to change a successful formula....because we want to see if the grass is greener down the street or around the corner.
However, if you cultivate and water your own grass it can stay green for a very long time.
Tony has had a injury-plague year. Which happens to most atheletes at some point in their careers. But, if he's a core piece to your team. You can keep him for as long as you can.
Also, I believe TP suffers from DJS. DJS is the Derek Jeter Syndrome. Meaning TP has three championships by 25 years old, he's married to a Hollywood Actress, and he's from France.....so he will never be beloved by the San Antonio fan base. Even though, he has conducted with class and respect and has never talked about wanting to leave the Spurs.
It looks like everything has come to easy for him and I must write some people resent that.
But this guy has taken everything from Pop and became a better player. Even the TP haters has to acknowledge that.
But, TP is not Chris Paul or Deron Williams or Steve Nash....so there will always be fans who lust for that type of PG no matter what TP does.
Even though his skill set works for this team.
Lastly, I know a lot of this talk has picked up more because of the improved play of George Hill. I like George and he has done a great job (before he got hurt) for fill in for Tony.
But he is a 2nd year player and there were some games I saw that Tony's ability were sorely needed.
And with all due the respect....if the Spurs have any chance to come out the West...TP is needed. George Hill is not there yet.
TP is a member of Big 3 and is an important piece to Spurs.
He stays!!
why the would we want to trade tony
i think it is a good idea to trade tony parker while he still has value, tim duncan is old, we need a young big athletic next to tim. tony parker lover fans should accept that the big 3 cant win championship any longer. duncan will get older, slower next year and gino as well, parker will be 28-29.
trade parker while we can for a big or young athletic wing. hill can take over and hill is younger. he will be 24 next year.
gino can play the point, then hill shooting guard. or vice versa. this team proved that they can win without tony parker. if we can get a big man next to tim for parker like bynum or bosh.
pg- hill
sg- gino
sf-
pf- duncan
c- andrew bynum
or
pg- hill
sg- gino
sf-
pf- chris bosh
c- duncan
i think with this line up. we will win more championship for timmy.
if we could land bosh for tp than yes trade him do u think we can land bosh
To improve the team would be the obvious answer.
It's too soon to have this conversation. How the playoffs develop will provide info as to what is best for the team.
If the FO has a deal that they think improves the team then it will be considered. I don't see how someone can be completely against or for the idea of a trade when no one knows what the trade would actually be.
Astute observers such as Bill Simmons suggested a trade back in the Summer so the idea isn't totally new.
Everyone is thankful for the Big 3 and their contributions but time moves forward and situations change. The Big 3 is not enough. RJ for the most part has not been the answer. If the FO doesn't consider all ways to improve the team then they aren't doing their job. It's a business in the end.
Agree 100% with the OP...
everyone has opinions and , some, raise good points---after ---you take away the emotion--of the thing...maybe this trade will help---maybe that trade will be awesome for the spurs future---etc...
but c'mon...
give it a rest----
almost EVERY fricking team---and fan base ---if they were honest---would be more than happy to take TP off of our hands...
TP has been GREAT for this franchise---and if nothing else---
SHOW SOME ING RESPECT---YOU MORONS!
(said with all due respect---in a sincerely humble manner...)
Everyone needs to remember its all about business at the end of the day and money talks. Tony isn't the answer right now (in current shape & this whole season) if we are to keep him he needs to not play off season otherwise I say trade his ass, he's cost us this year by not being healthy, one assumes thats cos he didn't have a break off season.
In basketball you can't keep everyone around for ever you need to trade while you can and keep a consistent flow of young talent coming in. TP's only 28? so possibly still some worth if he can adjust his game slightly to suit the way the Spurs of now are playing. our 3 point game is dead nearly and that's what TP works best with. So the challenge is his (and he has the playoffs to prove he can) if he doesn't adjust I say he's gone.
It's funny how everyone said it's a business. I know that!
However, the Spurs basically waited for Manu to see if he can get healthy since he wasn't for the past 2 seasons. Even though people on ST wanted him traded too.
Tony been hurt this season...so what? It happens to most athletes in the career.
Also, this has been his first year with serious injuries. He has earned a right to come back fully healthy next year.
Moreover, it's easy to write trade TP for Bosh or the next superstar. But that's not realistic because most teams don't just give away stars or superstars unless their desperate or wanting to dump salaries.
Again, TP has been great for this team. Last year, when Manu was out he helped Tim with scoring and carried the team some during the regular season.
I'm not getting rid of a top 5 PG just because the fans are tired of him and isn't a Steve Nash or CP3 or Deron Williams.
Sorry the team has been improved with him.
And he is the best PG on the Spurs whether you like him or not.
And having one injured year doesn't change that.
Also, I know the Big 3 isn't enough...but they are core of the team. Every good team has a core.
Lakers: Kobe, Gasol, & Odom
Cavs: Lebron, Mo Williams, Jamison
Magic: Howard, Lewis, & Nelson
Nuggets: Melo, Kenyon Martin, & Billups
Mavs: Dirk, Terry, and Marion
and so on....
the other pieces are the issue.....but without a core you don't have a chance of sniffing a championship.
The Big 3 can still play well together and TP is a big part of that.
Just because Bill Simmons writes something doesn't mean it make sense.
If Tony was declining or making unreasonable demands.....then I would consider a scenario of trading him.
That's not the case publicly and I think some Spurs fans have always lusted for another PG period.
Keep Parker!!!!!
Here is the list I would trade him for but it's not happening:
1. Kevin Durant
2. Dwight Howard
3. Lebron James
4. Dwayne Wade
5. Cris Bosh
6. Chris Paul
7. Top 3 pick in this year's draft
8. Derek Rose
9. Joe Johnson
10. Al Horford
11. The Warriors/Clippers/Knicks first round picks for the next 10 years
12. Deron Williams
13. David Robinson to come out of retirement and play like he was in his prime.
these are the only 13 trades I would be happy with if the spurs are getting rid of Parker. People forget Parker was finals MVP just 3 years ago.
So true!
They also forgot last year when he took more of a scoring burden because Manu was out.
Unfortunately, TP will never get truly loved by a lot of Spurs fans for some unknown perception of him.
TP is an excellent player and is 1/3 of the Big 3.
Word. And I'm glad you started this thread because I was tired of looking at the trade parker thread because it's making me sick.
If you can trade Tony Parker for Dwight Howard I think you should do it!
Thats a fair call, but being a top 5 point guard means he should have the ability to adjust his game, and thats what the spurs need him to do.
This. Yes its sucks, but life a and then you die. the need for a big man is paramount at this point in time. The commitment by the FO and owner has been made. There is no turning back. Tim can go for three more yrs. if another bigman is added(Chris Bosh ideally). That bigman will replace Tim in the end. In the perfect world Chris Bosh stays with Toronto for now. Tony should be looking for a six yr. deal this time around. He should get it too. Just, not with the Spurs. We can let him go(option yr. thing) or trade for nothing short of a future Timmy D. replacement. 1st choice - Chris Bosh. 2nd choice - Amar'e Stoudemire . We need one of these guys. I really like Chris. The money thing is right compared to Tony. It's Business. Good business. George Hill is good to go at point. There is nothing wrong with Tony's game. The spurs haved tool up for a different kind of B. ball now. We all agree if Tim is to get us to the promise land once more before he goes an equally good Big man is required to help and to replace Tim in the end. Go SPURS GO!
at this thread. Ye ppl are offering us Bosh, Bynum, Lebron, Howard, Melo for Parker but we are thinking if its really worth it.... Some of you are really just plain old dumb.
Ridiculous idea to trade Tony at this point. One of the top PGs in the league and he knows and runs the complicated system just fine. In fact, if we only integrate Hairston and Splitter next year, this team is going to ROCK.
This year is an aberration in that we had so many new guys to integrate, especially key guys like RJ and Dice. Tony was injured, but is young and will be fine come the play offs.
The idea of trading Tony now is like the earlier season fans wanting to trade Manu. Hasty and not well thought out.
Do people envy Tony for what he has accomplished at so young an age? Maybe, but me, I admire him. He works hard and does all the right things. The only thing you can say about Tony is that he has taken advantage of every opportunity he could. For that, I just say, "Good Job".
I guess some people get the concept of Plan B and yet some still see Parker as Pops 19 year old puppet who like Hill started off great but now plays the role of Allen Iverson which we don't need. Trust me when he walks witho
I am most definately not a TP hater, but I do see that the team has changed without him this year...I also believe its mostly how pop has coached, & changed things around TP due to injuries and lack of play from other positions. Tony is not the problem, but what is around him certainly is. Tim isnt in his prime and the key players we got in the offseason have not been so key. Also the team has played well without TP & not so well when he is with us. So that being said, do you change the team or the player? I think that is what most people are saying....Now what I am saying is keep TP and find a way to get a solid wing and athletic big aloing with some better 3 point shooting and we should be in contention next year and after. Another year for Blair, Hill, RJ, MCD with the team should help alot. Also, another year for Gino being healthy helps as well. I dont want TP gone at all, but if we can land a great trade than I say you have to do it. The odds are against that, so I say dont worry and try to bring in the talent we need around are remaining players for next years squad. Did I make sense at all ? Meesa kinda drunky...
A total suck point for next year is we are one year older...so eh...
Very understandable...But is that ever going to happen? That is the epitome of NBA business. Basic & practical...but wont happen for our Spurs.
So if the Spurs could improve the team by potentially trading Parker then you would be against it?Sorry the team has been improved with him.
And he is the best PG on the Spurs whether you like him or not.
And having one injured year doesn't change that.
Also, I know the Big 3 isn't enough...but they are core of the team. Every good team has a core.
Lakers: Kobe, Gasol, & Odom
Cavs: Lebron, Mo Williams, Jamison
Magic: Howard, Lewis, & Nelson
Nuggets: Melo, Kenyon Martin, & Billups
Mavs: Dirk, Terry, and Marion
and so on....
the other pieces are the issue.....but without a core you don't have a chance of sniffing a championship.
The Big 3 can still play well together and TP is a big part of that.
Right now TP canīt defend anyone, he is being outscored by anyone he faces. Same as Jefferson tonight.
I think Tony must stay, but these last games have shown that if this is the best he can play as of now, he should remain as a bench player until his injuries are healed. Hill runs this team much better with Manu than Parker with him. Not to say the defense that is light years.
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