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    In these perilous financial times, I can't think of a single player that has opted out the past couple of seasons. Even Amare changed his mind. RJ is talking this up, but I'll believe it when I see it.

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    EXACTLY. With the hard cap coming, he'll never see $10M a season again. He'll be lucky to get $5M.

    Don't ever play chicken with the Spurs FO. The worst outcome for the FO is to extend RJ. That'w a W for him and an L for them. That isn't happening. The other two outcomes are he opts out (L/L) or he plays out his last year (W/W). He can probably get 3-4 years at ~$5M on a follow on to the last year at $15M.
    Even under the current CBA that would never happen. Lamar Odom is a way better SF than Jefferson, and only got a little more than $8 million per over 2 or 3 years. I don't know what the Jefferson is thinking.

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    In these perilous financial times, I can't think of a single player that has opted out the past couple of seasons. Even Amare changed his mind. RJ is talking this up, but I'll believe it when I see it.
    Actually, Amare hasn't changed his mind yet. He's about the only player (who isn't already assumed to be opting out like LBJ and Wade) player that could make an opt out work this summer.

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    jefferson is a great 4th option guy many believed that he would our second option...the thing that bothers spurs fans is his pay of course and he is not a 14 million a year player at best a 10 million the worst a 8 million but if he doesnt opt out of is contract which is great for him making 30 million in 2 seasons in a cheap living city in san antonio and hes single is just living the life. Jefferson has been playing great these past month or so and hopefully he has a story post season and maybe he can be worth his contract...spurs will do the same thing even if jefferson opts out but holt will save alot of money spurs will sign splitter with the mle and draft a SF in the draft in pondextor or george and resign either bonner or Ian as there 5th big man and maybe with the LLE the spurs could go after a mason replacement maybe matt barnes or someone in that catergory

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    rj...GTFO!

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    Ok so... If RJ opts out, the Spurs no longer owe him the money for the last year of his contract and he becomes a free agent?

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    Ok so... If RJ opts out, the Spurs no longer owe him the money for the last year of his contract and he becomes a free agent?
    Yep

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    He's got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

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    If that is the case, could it be possible that if the Spurs go deep into the playoffs he could sign an extension with the Spurs for less money? I mean his performance this year has only been average. I still think the man can play, but for my optimistic reasons, I think he would take a smaller deal to remain with the Spurs if the team can prove itself in the playoffs.

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    If that is the case, could it be possible that if the Spurs go deep into the playoffs he could sign an extension with the Spurs for less money? I mean his performance this year has only been average. I still think the man can play, but for my optimistic reasons, I think he would take a smaller deal to remain with the Spurs if the team can prove itself in the playoffs.
    Any extension signed before June 30th would leave the 15M for next season in place.

    He could opt out of that last year and sign a completely new deal for any amount from the minimum to the maximum after July 1st

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    Come on..this isn't about San Antonio..this is about a guy who knows this is a business...we can't get pissed at him for this...it's not like he's been here for a decade. Give the guy a damn break...basketball players careers don't always last as long as Jordan's/Robinson's/Duncan's. He's trying to provide for his family for the rest of his life.

    Regardless, he shouldn't be saying this a week away from the playoffs. This is the type of thing he needs to be talking about in the summer.

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    Any extension signed before June 30th would leave the 15M for next season in place.

    He could opt out of that last year and sign a completely new deal for any amount from the minimum to the maximum after July 1st
    Thanks for the info!

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    Give me a fraction of what he earns and i'll provide for my family easily.
    Sure, it sounds easy to do so. 15 mill is a lot.

    But take home is closer to 9. And that is for life, so that salary has to earn enough money to be sustainable.

    Sure, I think I could make it with a few mill earning interest and not even need to work. But you have to have a very moderate lifestyle to do that.

    Then these guys often are asked to take care of their extended families and close friends, and soon the money runs out.

    I think stupidly living an unsustainable lifestyle wastes alot of money for sports guys, but some of it is not being selfish, it is just trying to be a nice guy and help out your 3rd uncle, and counsin, etc....

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    Delusional, Jefferson is. First, if he thinks that Manu getting an extension somehow means he will get one. Second, thinking anyone would give him $40m for 4 years.

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    RJ opting out will hurt Spurs. As disappointing as he has been, Spurs won't be able to find a player with his level with a half MLE.
    As much as I want to disagree, this is true.
    I'm still all for getting rid of him, but we should do it by trade, not letting him go.

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    I just like that fact that he may try to play his best ball at the time when it matters most. If he leaves, oh well, we sleep walked to another 50 win season, if we win a championship, I still don't think it's a big loss, we have a little money to toss around. It'd be sweet to see Jeff leave town with Bonner and maybe a hoss like David Lee falls into our lap. How some of the jabrones that got signed last offseason to huge contracts and this hustler is left out in the cold with a 1 year deal with the Knicks is just a travesty. Send Tony to York, Jeff leaves, we get Lee. Temple has shown flashes of being a credible back up, George has already proven he is starter material, Beasty is going to be sick, bring in Lee, Splitter trade his rights for someone who can shoot threes on a consistent basis and pick up a somewhat young and athletic wing and I like the way the team looks next year and probably at a lower cost.

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    There's no way 'someone' offer that money to him. He'd be luck if he gets a MLE offer for 3 or 4 seasons

    No way he opts out
    Exactly...that is why he wont opt out. No way in someone gives him a huge contract year-wise and money-wise...

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    i don't like this at all. he needs to shut up. i know the question was asked first, but he should have respectfully declined to go into this kind of detail and said it is a private matter that he'll wait until the off-season judge. the focus needs to be on winning a championship, which IS WHAT IS HE BEING PAYED TO DO. iow, part of his job is to stfu and concentrate on what he is supposed to concentrate on. it's just unethical.

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    LOL at a player having the worst season of his career thinking he can get more money

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    If RJ doesn't opt out, Spurs offseason will likely be spending half the MLE on Splitter and filling the roster with cheap players.

    Tell me what Spurs would do if RJ opt out and how it will make Spurs a better team?
    He's making 14 million this year from the Spurs and he's averaging 12.4 pts. and 4.4 boards per his 31 minutes a night. Also add to that his shoddy defense and you're claiming the Spurs would have a hard time replacing that? No offense Bruno, you're one of the better poster in here but you're wrong on this one.

    If this is all RJ is bringing to the dance, the Spurs can get someone who can give you just as much as he brings for half the cost. Again, I'll say, if he can bring it come playoff time, I will eat my words.

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    He's making 14 million this year from the Spurs and he's averaging 12.4 pts. and 4.4 boards per his 31 minutes a night. Also add to that his shoddy defense and you're claiming the Spurs would have a hard time replacing that? No offense Bruno, you're one of the better poster in here but you're wrong on this one.

    If this is all RJ is bringing to the dance, the Spurs can get someone who can give you just as much as he brings for half the cost. Again, I'll say, if he can bring it come playoff time, I will eat my words.
    But how does losing him make the Spurs a better team, like Bruno asked?

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    seriously? SERIOUSLY?
    yeah seriously. i hate people that give to athletes that want to make money - if you were in the same position you'd do the same damn thing

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    As some have said. His opting out, while saving money for the Spurs, would hurt the Spurs as we would lose his services for nothing and cannot trade his giant expiring contract.

    With only the MLE much of which will be spent (hopefully) on Splitter, there's really very little we could do to get a player that talented. It annoys me somewhat to hear him say that it is the Spurs system that is reducing his value. Perhaps partially true, but own up to your own role in the difficulties.

    If he does not opt-out, we are better off. And he won't, he's not going to get that kind of money anywhere.

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    he's not opting out guys~

    no team is gonna offer him massive $

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    he could opt out be stupid
    playing for spurs or knicks....
    james is not going anywhere
    manu is not
    who is the knicks going to sign?

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