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    If Tony decides to play given his health this year and how much time he needs to recover, then I'm sad to say I'm fully in the trade Tony camp.

    No way should the Spurs risk potentially the last Duncan year on Tony being injured all season again.
    I am against tony playing
    but there is a risk in trading tony
    spurs made a trade last year and rj did not fit in right away and still does not most of the time

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    I am against tony playing
    but there is a risk in trading tony
    spurs made a trade last year and rj did not fit in right away and still does not most of the time
    TP not listen to coach.

    He just parties and makes face book. If he cared, he would just say no. He knows Spurs don't want him to play in the summer, but he says screw the team.

    Maybe if they give him facebook account manager, he would focus on being healthy.

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    Manu wants to play so hard , there is no comparison between playing with friends on a World Championship or playing with your colleagues on the league, you can't buy that experience, Manu respects the team and the coach but NT is a dream for any player, at least outside U.S.A.

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    The only way manu's gonna play for NT is if we end up winning it all. That's why he's waiting to the PO's end to give a word about it.
    There's no read between the lines. It's the truth.
    TP will likely play for his NT. French posters here doesn't want him to play, but he will imo.

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    Ginobili's not playing in the worlds, it will have mostly to do with the spurs and partly to do with his twins.
    On the contrary. Family is first.

    He's only saying in public that he hasn't decided yet in order to not piss argentinian fans off.
    I donīt know if somebody is pissed yet...mmm...let me check...

    Argentinian fans would be infinitely more furious if they found out Ginobili couldn't represent them due to tensions between him and the Spurs FO.
    I donīt think so. Manu got his contract and his choice. The FO can do nothing.

    But, if Ginobili claims that it's because of his twins, fans would be MUCH more understanding.
    We ARE understanding for a looong time. No matter what he wants to do.

    Ginobili's playing a masterful public relations game right now. He's easing into his almost certain final decision that he's not playing for the world's this year. It's written all over his face.
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    Tony Parker, Kobe, Turkoglu, Gasol, Scola, Bogut

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    The only way manu's gonna play for NT is if we end up winning it all. That's why he's waiting to the PO's end to give a word about it.
    There's no read between the lines. It's the truth.
    TP will likely play for his NT. French posters here doesn't want him to play, but he will imo.
    According to the article, Manu will announce his decision next week.

    It was Tony who said that he will not make a decision until after the playoffs.

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    Parker just has not learned yet huh?

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    It's like most people in this thread are missing the verb. Parker said he WANTS to play. Of course, he wants to play - Manu wants to play too... but that doesn't mean they plan on playing or that they will.

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    I think Parker is 50/50 (don't think the Spurs won't be in his ear about his impending free agency in a year, how an injury or a down season could impact how much and long they pay him, how it could be the team's last year to contend, etc.).

    Ginobili, I'd be stunned if he played. If you don't think that the Spurs didn't tell him that he's not playing in this before giving him the contract they just gave him, then you're gullible (considering the rule that prohibits teams from doing so...just like teams can't tamper, even though it's well known that they do). There's no way they gave him that generous contract without getting assurances on this. Conveniently, he'll decide next week. Where did this come from? That wasn't the plan before he signed.

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    Manu wonīt play, simple as that. If he would, he should have confirmed it this week as all of our NBA players did.
    He already gave many signs of that.

    1- Signed a big contract with SA. (would be idiotic to think that SA gave the contract and told him to do what he wants, he can still screw them and play, but itīs not likely)

    2- Talked about how the Olympic games are what he cares the most and that he wants to play them but cannot play Internationa every year.

    3- Talked about how much he wants to play BUT itīs hard to let his wife alone with the twins.

    4- All the NBAīs (Delfino, Scola, Nocioni, Oberto*) have confirmed that they will play last week.

    *Oberto confirmed it but pending his heart tests he runs after each season to check on his heart disease.

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    Manu will announce he won't soon... though if the Spurs win it all and he's healthy he may ask to participate

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    These 2 need to get slapped across their heads.... summer bball.

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    I wouldnīt have a problem if Manu said "i will only go if i win it all". He would somewhat get the Spurs permission if he makes us win it all again.

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    all of you selfish "there is no world outside of America", "we own player X,Y & Z because we pay them" pricks.

    The very fact that you wish to deny anyone the great honor of representing their country is pathetic. I hope Manu goes to the world champs and the people of Argentina are allowed to enjoy the satisfaction and jubilation of cheering for their countrymen not because some rich business is paying them bucket loads of money, but because they truly believe in the spirit of what they are doing.

    Those of you who believe Parker should rest to allow his long term ailment to heal I have some sympathy for.

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    The very fact that you wish to deny anyone the great honor of representing their country is pathetic. I hope Manu goes to the world champs and the people of Argentina are allowed to enjoy the satisfaction and jubilation of cheering for their countrymen not because some rich business is paying them bucket loads of money, but because they truly believe in the spirit of what they are doing.

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    all of you selfish "there is no world outside of America", "we own player X,Y & Z because we pay them" pricks.


    This POV would have some validity if not for the fact that most players won't participate in these tourneys unless they have a guaranteed contract in place.

    If the players won't put country before their own self-interest why should the fans?

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    This POV would have some validity if not for the fact that most players won't participate in these tourneys unless they have a guaranteed contract in place.

    If the players won't put country before their own self-interest why should the fans?
    Manu has been playin' for Argentina all his life

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    Manu has been playin' for Argentina all his life
    And?

    In every tourney since 2002, Manu has had a guaranteed NBA contract in his back pocket.

    In principle, I have no problem with NBA players participating in FIBA events. The CBA guarantees their right to do so. The owners haven't done anything to change that fact in all the CBAs negotiated since the Dream Team in 1992.

    I have a problem with people playing the patriotism card. As if fans that want their team's players to avoid NT play don't appreciate the honor of playing in such events or that the prestige of such events should be more important to those fans than the fortunes of their favorite team. As I said, such a POV would have some weight if more players were willing to play when then don't already have a guaranteed contract. It is just a tiny group of players who are willing to risk playing while they are FAs. Where's the patriotism then?

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    patriotism?

    They are bball players, they love this game, we love this game

    if they want to play, they should play

    in the world cup, or anywhere

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    patriotism?

    They are bball players, they love this game, we love this game

    if they want to play, they should play

    in the world cup, or anywhere
    If you're going take a position that has nothing to do with my post, it would probably be best that you not respond to my posts.

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    all of you selfish "there is no world outside of America", "we own player X,Y & Z because we pay them" pricks.

    The very fact that you wish to deny anyone the great honor of representing their country is pathetic. I hope Manu goes to the world champs and the people of Argentina are allowed to enjoy the satisfaction and jubilation of cheering for their countrymen not because some rich business is paying them bucket loads of money, but because they truly believe in the spirit of what they are doing.

    Those of you who believe Parker should rest to allow his long term ailment to heal I have some sympathy for.
    Except that Manu is now 33. And the Spurs just paid him the max and took on the gamble that he will be healthy.

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    This POV would have some validity if not for the fact that most players won't participate in these tourneys unless they have a guaranteed contract in place.

    If the players won't put country before their own self-interest why should the fans?
    Well, then by that mean. Let Manu play and shut up.

    Scola, Delfino and Oberto have already confirmed their precense and NONE of them have a guaranteed contract for next season.

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    all of you selfish "there is no world outside of America", "we own player X,Y & Z because we pay them" pricks.

    The very fact that you wish to deny anyone the great honor of representing their country is pathetic. I hope Manu goes to the world champs and the people of Argentina are allowed to enjoy the satisfaction and jubilation of cheering for their countrymen not because some rich business is paying them bucket loads of money, but because they truly believe in the spirit of what they are doing.

    Those of you who believe Parker should rest to allow his long term ailment to heal I have some sympathy for.
    yeah let's just waste the last few years of us being able to get into the playoffs.

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    Well, then by that mean. Let Manu play and shut up.

    Scola, Delfino and Oberto have already confirmed their precense and NONE of them have a guaranteed contract for next season.
    Nice try.

    There is about a 99.999% chance that Houston will tender the 4.1M Qualifying Offer to Scola. Worst case scenario for him is a one year, 4.1M deal.

    Delfino is under contract for next year for 3.5M, of which 500K is guaranteed. He'll know by June 30th if the Bucks pick up his deal, but it's very likely that they keep him at that price.

    Oberto is at the point in his career where offers above the vet minimum are unlikely. Even without a contract, he's not risking much.


    Most importantly, today is April 12th and the tourney starts August 28th. Let's see how many players start play without a contract. If those three start the tourney without a contract, then I'll shut up.

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