View Poll Results: world(eu & south america) vs usa

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  1. #1
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    In a 7 game series who'd win between team usa and this team

    pau
    dirk
    turk
    manu
    good defensive european pg with high% 3pt shot (ex diamantidis)

    res:
    yao (healthy)
    nene
    bogut
    diaw
    fernandes
    pietrus
    parker
    generic swingman
    generic defensive sg


    I've put only players 100% international not puerto rican canadian half citizenship people.
    I think world team wins because of the huge difference in low post scoring.
    Discuss.

  2. #2
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    ofc the world team can be tinkered.. just made one without giving it too much thought.

  3. #3
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    Dwight Howard
    Amare Stoudemire
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    Low post scoring? That American team would be way better in the post than the Gasol and Dirk.

  4. #4
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    USA easily.

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    Usa

  6. #6
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    Dwight Howard
    Amare Stoudemire
    Lebron James
    Kobe Bryant
    Deron Williams

    Low post scoring? That American team would be way better in the post than the Gasol and Dirk.
    dwight will be in permanent foul trouble. Remember 2008 olympics? And i doubt the fact that amare has the iq to accommodate to zone-only d. Cue in the fact that yao/dirk would put our bigs into crazy foul trouble.

    And who comes for us off the bench against world's bigs? chris bosh? who rebounds when dwight has 2 fouls in the mid of the 1st quarter? (i mean he often gets in foul trouble in the nba where he has superstar treatment, how do you think he'll fare against a neutral whistle) This in the context of a guard/sf-like usa team cause you gotta have bron melo kobe wade paul williams durant and the likes. Doesn't matter you'll have logjams or the majority of them are slashers etc.

    I mean on paper we win, but in a game .. once you think how it will be played and all i think it's far from an easy answer.

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    That's funny because the Suns run zone D's all the time.

    Yao piece of slope eyed Ming is injured and will suck once he's back. He's a non factor. The US would win.

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    I don't think USA would win too easily, but they would win. Probably around a 10 point game.

  9. #9
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    we'll run the world ragged.

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    That's funny because the Suns run zone D's all the time.

    Yao piece of slope eyed Ming is injured and will suck once he's back. He's a non factor. The US would win.
    I was not aware the suns or amare play d consistently enough as to say he can be accustomed to it.

    I find it weird people think a guard based team where everybody needs a ball has such a great chance to win against a good balanced, tall, rebounding, comparably talented i might add (gasol, dirk, manu, healthy yao, can all play superstar level for 7 games).

    And a healthy yao for 7 games (he's not built for 82 ffs) is a nightmare especially since in a correctly (european) whistled game he'd put people in foul trouble in a hurry.

    when you think at the usa roster and the fact that our bigs will get in foul trouble very fast ... you get smallball, you get a guy like chris bosh at center or something like that. I think you can't win a series with smallball.

    Talent wise we're miles ahead. Team wise ...
    ex: name an american star center after dwight.
    ex 2: name an american star pf who'd play for usa team that is better than gasol or dirk? That is on par with them? That is comparable to them? And on par as in scores, pays d, does not play only in contract years, cares about winning so that he can sacrifice his stats (LOL amare on this one).

    I mean we have alot of talent but it's not uniformly distributed across all positions.

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    I was not aware the suns or amare play d consistently enough as to say he can be accustomed to it.

    I find it weird people think a guard based team where everybody needs a ball has such a great chance to win against a good balanced, tall, rebounding, comparably talented i might add (gasol, dirk, manu, healthy yao, can all play superstar level for 7 games).

    And a healthy yao for 7 games (he's not built for 82 ffs) is a nightmare especially since in a correctly (european) whistled game he'd put people in foul trouble in a hurry.

    when you think at the usa roster and the fact that our bigs will get in foul trouble very fast ... you get smallball, you get a guy like chris bosh at center or something like that. I think you can't win a series with smallball.

    Talent wise we're miles ahead. Team wise ...
    ex: name an american star center after dwight.
    ex 2: name an american star pf who'd play for usa team that is better than gasol or dirk? That is on par with them? That is comparable to them? And on par as in scores, pays d, does not play only in contract years, cares about winning so that he can sacrifice his stats (LOL amare on this one).

    I mean we have alot of talent but it's not uniformly distributed across all positions.
    It isn't even close. The US would win by double digits.

    International officiating allows for MUCH MUCH more contact...so foul trouble is less of an issue.

    Pau
    Dirk
    Turk
    Manu
    "Good defensive PG from Europe" LOL Is there even such a thing?!?!? This would be a HUGE mismatch in favor of the Americans

    Howard (As a Laker fan...Pau would have a very hard time dealing with Howards physicality)

    Melo (Could easily guard the jump shooting Dirk and Dirk would have ZERO chance on the other end)

    Bron (Turk would be one of the worst players on the floor at all times)

    Wade/Kobe (Would shut down Manu down the stretch. No doubt about it)

    Deron (Would just on any European PG...it would be a joke)

    Bench:
    yao (healthy)
    nene
    bogut
    diaw
    fernandes
    pietrus
    parker

    LOL at this bench going up against the likes of:

    Bosh
    Durant
    Paul
    Roy
    Amare

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    Melo (Could easily guard the jump shooting Dirk ]

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    Melo defending Dirk.

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    Just put stephen jackson on Dirk.

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    It isn't even close. The US would win by double digits.

    International officiating allows for MUCH MUCH more contact...so foul trouble is less of an issue.

    Pau
    Dirk
    Turk
    Manu
    "Good defensive PG from Europe" LOL Is there even such a thing?!?!? This would be a HUGE mismatch in favor of the Americans

    Howard (As a Laker fan...Pau would have a very hard time dealing with Howards physicality)

    Melo (Could easily guard the jump shooting Dirk and Dirk would have ZERO chance on the other end)

    Bron (Turk would be one of the worst players on the floor at all times)

    Wade/Kobe (Would shut down Manu down the stretch. No doubt about it)

    Deron (Would just on any European PG...it would be a joke)

    Bench:
    yao (healthy)
    nene
    bogut
    diaw
    fernandes
    pietrus
    parker

    LOL at this bench going up against the likes of:

    Bosh
    Durant
    Paul
    Roy
    Amare
    That's one funny post given what i've already said in this thread. Nice attempt at trolling

  16. #16
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    Playing under NBA rules, the USA would win in 6 games. With FIBA rules, the All-World team would win fairly easy; the US struggled to beat Spain.

    If I were the rest of the world coach I'd overhaul that roster, I'd like to have more interior D. Diamantidis in his prime would have been a top-3 defensive PG in the NBA, but he's getting old and is now more of a wing-defender. Rubio and Beaubois are the best European defensive PGs who have some skill. I would have amazing depth, so I'd run up and down the court, hence I'd probably start Rubio and I'd leave Yao and other slow centers out of the team. Something like this would destroy the US team:

    Rubio/Beaubois/Parker
    Ginobili/Sefolosha/Navarro
    Siskauskas/Delfino/Teodosic
    Dirk/Varejao/Ibaka
    Bogut/Pau/Splitter

    Lots of rebounding and defence. The better understanding of the FIBA game and screenball plays would make the difference. European type of rotation.

  17. #17
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    It's still an American game and always will be. We are still the standard and always will be.

  18. #18
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    It's still an American game and always will be. We are still the standard and always will be.
    1. The US can still be beaten, even by national teams with noone playing in the US.

    2. Mike Brown doesn't agree much with you. He's said multiple times there's aspects of the game where Americans lag behind.

  19. #19
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    Where should I put Tim Duncan?

    Either way, I think the US would win a 7 games series, now a single elimination team is another thing: I wouldn't count out a team of Nash, Ginobili, Nowitzki, Pau and Turk or Peja. How do you stop a team like that getting hot from the outside?

  20. #20
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    Wade/Kobe (Would shut down Manu down the stretch. No doubt about it)
    I don't know about Kobe 'cause he hasn't defend Manu much on his career but I've seen Wade trying to guard Manu both in the international play and in the NBA and let me tell you that I've never saw him shutting Manu down.

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