Not neccessary. Frankly the Mavs deserved to win that series. Though there were many a debatable call - from both sides - the Mavs prevalled and won, In the final analysis it was Manu that fouled Dirk. Without that foul it's only a two point shot and the Spurs simply run out the clock to win. Yes, the Mavs can foul but I think it wouldn't make them the winners. They needed OT and they got it and the rest is is history.
It is what it is. If Manu doesn't foul then the Mave lose - pure and simple. But he did and the Mavs won.
Enough said.
Time to move on.
Let it go.
Dallas won fair and square in 2006. Dallas choked after winning the first 2 games, that was their best opportunity to get aBut until now and until you get someone who is better than Nowinski and provides help, your championship case will be empty. Dallas showed their colors in 2007 when they faced the Warriors. Mavs fans can't say they would have beat the Spurs that year, for we will never know. You need to take care of the light stuff before talking .
Mavs were handed Games 3 and 4 in the last quarter of each of those games.
That was the series. IMHO
If you don't believe me, figure out a way to watch those two games again and come talk to me.
Those two games were so bad Pop and the Spurs brass notified the league and expressed their opinions on the horrible officiating in a very infuriated manner. ( That has been the only time Pop and R.C have done such in the duration of the Duncan era.) * That's how bad it was*
True.
Game 3's 4th quarter was the single worst officiating job I've seen - worse than in the Mia vs Dal series. Dallas scored 20 of their last 26 points from the free throw line, Dirk had 27 points on 9 shots shooting at 33.3%, and Dallas won by a point while having 16(!) less field goal attempts. Words escape me.
I think Pop was stupid for benching the centers on a 63 win team. Smallball was the reason the Mavs won the series, but it's not Dallas' fault that the Spurs were stupid, so they absolutely deserved to win that series. It's disappointing because the players figured out how to play despite the small lineups, they just didn't figure it out in time to save the season. Little things like Timmy fouling out after Dirk stepped on his foot or Manu's foul wouldn't really have mattered if the Spurs had had either of their seven footers anchoring their defense for even a few minutes in the later games of that series. Nobody in the Spurs organization has a leg to stand on crying about the calls when they put two healthy starting centers at the end of the bench simply because one of them hit a three pointer in a blowout.
All that said, the Heat were the better team than Dallas, and cries of poor officiating by Mavfan are just as ridiculous as they were by Spurfan in the semis. The refs gave Dirk a chance to put the thing away at the line. They can't make the ing free throws for him too.
in the 2006 finals, the mavs made 126 FTs and heat made 121. not to mention the mavs were fouling Shaq who made just 14 out of 48.
Game, Set and Match
2006 Western Semis, Mavs-Spurs:
Game 1 at San Antonio: Spurs 30 FTAs, Mavs 28. Duncan 12, Dirk 6.
Game 2 at San Antonio: Spurs 37, Mavs 43. Duncan 14, Dirk 7.
Game 3 at Dallas: Spurs 32, Mavs 50. Duncan 8, Dirk 24.
Game 4 at Dallas: Spurs 32, Mavs 32. Duncan 8, Dirk 15.
Game 5 at San Antonio: Spurs 31, Mavs 19. Duncan 15, Dirk 4.
Game 6 at Dallas: Spurs 34, Mavs 20. Duncan 10, Dirk 8.
Game 7 at San Antonio: Spurs 39, Mavs 31. Duncan 23, Dirk 16.
Spurs 33.57 FTAs per game, Duncan 12.85 FTAs per game (6.15 above season average)
Mavs 31.85 FTAs per game, Dirk 11.42 FTAs per game (4.02 above season average)
Mavs-Heat 2006 Finals:
Game 1 at Dallas: Mavs 26 FTAs, Heat 19. Wade 10, Dirk 6.
Game 2 at Dallas: Mavs 28, Heat 32. Wade 14, Dirk 11.
Game 3 at Miami: Mavs 26, Heat 34. Wade 18, Dirk 12.
Game 4 at Miami: Mavs 27, Heat 36. Wade 9, Dirk 13.
Game 5 at Miami: Mavs 25, Heat 49. Wade 25, Dirk 5.
Game 6 at Dallas: Mavs 23, Heat 37. Wade 21, Dirk 8.
Heat-Mavs series:
Heat 34.50 FTAs per game, Wade 16.16 FTAs per game (5.46 above season average)
Mavs 25.83 FTAs per game, Dirk 9.16 FTAs per game (1.76 above season average)
Ironically, Duncan enjoyed a higher FT boost than Wade did over regular season averages. Now, there's a lot of factors that go into that, considering that the Spurs don't generally run their offense through Duncan in the regular season (he rarely goes for 30+ in a regular season game), whereas in the playoffs he becomes the focal point of the Spurs offense. Duncan shot over 50% of his points in the paint, whereas Wade shot 35% of his points in the paint.
I have to give credit to the Heat for beating us in 2006. It does a franchise no good to adopt an excuses-making, sore loser mentality. There are basketball reasons above and beyond the refs that explains why that series turned out the way it did.
One thing is clear though: Spurs fans are totally full of to complain that the refs jobbed them in 2006, just as the Mavs fans are to say the same about the Finals. And it's totally false that the Mavs "got a taste of their own medicine" in the Finals when they weren't the beneficiary of lopsided officiating in the Spurs-Mavs series.
This particular Spurs fan thinks both series were travesties of NBA officiating, but neither was decided solely by the officiating.
Oh hi Findog
I don't think Mavs fans are full of to say the refs jobbed us in 2006. There was clear, obvious one sided officiating in that series. Mavs could've made a few more plays, a few more shots, granted... but never the less, the Heat were beneficiaries of one of the worst officiated series of all time. , of the slew of bad calls, if you just take away the call that ended Game 5 the Mavs probably win the series.
On top of the bad calls Stack's suspension was very dubious as well.
A sad way for a magnificent season for the Mavs to end.
However, I agree that Spurs fans are full of when they complain about the officiating in the Mavs/Spurs series.
But the franchise does not have a sore loser mentality, our boys have moved on and the roster is much different, along with the coach. But Dirk/Cuban/and the rest of the gang know that we was robbed in 2006.
wrong.
Mavs won a legit game and Mavs choked vs. Heat. That is the concesus.
Oh hi Findog
I don't think Mavs fans are full of to say the refs jobbed us in 2006. There was clear, obvious one sided officiating in that series. Mavs could've made a few more plays, a few more shots, granted... but never the less, the Heat were beneficiaries of one of the worst officiated series of all time. , of the slew of bad calls, if you just take away the call that ended Game 5 the Mavs probably win the series.
On top of the bad calls Stack's suspension was very dubious as well.
A sad way for a magnificent season for the Mavs to end.
It is not even an opinion that the Mavs were victims of extremely poor officiating in the Finals, it is an indisputable fact.
However, I agree that Spurs fans are full of when they complain about the officiating in the Mavs/Spurs series
But the franchise does not have a sore loser mentality, our boys have moved on and the roster is much different, along with the coach. But Dirk/Cuban/and the rest of the gang know that we was robbed in 2006.
Dallas won the 2006 series. I remember there being a number of questionable calls and Dallas parading to the free throw line an awful lot for a jump shooting team, but both teams played incredible that entire series, and it was unfortunate that only one of them could end up winning it.
That being said, what happened in the 2006 Finals was sweet, sweet poetic justice. Just like in 2004 when the Pistons slapped the Fab Four Lakers.
yes. 100% factual.
Manu's fault
So the Bogus Foul on Duncan doesn't count either on game 3?
Do they not teach teh maths in San Antonio public schools?
Apparently they teach it as well as they teach "teh" grammar in dallas public schools.
Hey Aggie, it was intentional:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teh
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Wrong on both counts, Tim Duncan getting clearly hacked at the end of Game 7 without a call is more proof than I'll ever need for the formerOne thing is clear though: Spurs fans are totally full of to complain that the refs jobbed them in 2006, just as the Mavs fans are to say the same about the Finals. And it's totally false that the Mavs "got a taste of their own medicine" in the Finals when they weren't the beneficiary of lopsided officiating in the Spurs-Mavs series.
Then I get to complain about the foul on Dirk at the end of Game 5 that sent Wade to the line for two free throws. Mavs still had HCA and two chances to beat the Heat at home. Spurs still had a chance to beat the Mavs in OT.
Maybe you can even learn to laugh about it, like your players.
Fact is, Mavs got screwed in styles only Karma could manufacture.
God damn Manu
Typical excuses-making basketball fan.
Look, I'm not gonna comment on the "ref issue", I have an opinion, but it doesn't matter for squat now. However, if you're gonna try and make a realistic argument about this, you need to allow for minutes played (and/or shot attempts in your statistics). For example, Duncan average 34.5 minutes in the regular season, and 41.5 against Dallas. He averaged 20.6 FGA in the dallas series, vs. 14.8 regular season... This kind of thing may account for a LOT of the variability you are seeing. It's realistic that his FTA/Game went up with his shot attempts.
2006 Western Semis, Mavs-Spurs:
Game 1 at San Antonio: Spurs 30 FTAs, Mavs 28. Duncan 12, Dirk 6.
Game 2 at San Antonio: Spurs 37, Mavs 43. Duncan 14, Dirk 7.
Game 3 at Dallas: Spurs 32, Mavs 50. Duncan 8, Dirk 24.
Game 4 at Dallas: Spurs 32, Mavs 32. Duncan 8, Dirk 15.
Game 5 at San Antonio: Spurs 31, Mavs 19. Duncan 15, Dirk 4.
Game 6 at Dallas: Spurs 34, Mavs 20. Duncan 10, Dirk 8.
Game 7 at San Antonio: Spurs 39, Mavs 31. Duncan 23, Dirk 16.
Spurs 33.57 FTAs per game, Duncan 12.85 FTAs per game (6.15 above season average)
Mavs 31.85 FTAs per game, Dirk 11.42 FTAs per game (4.02 above season average)
Mavs-Heat 2006 Finals:
Game 1 at Dallas: Mavs 26 FTAs, Heat 19. Wade 10, Dirk 6.
Game 2 at Dallas: Mavs 28, Heat 32. Wade 14, Dirk 11.
Game 3 at Miami: Mavs 26, Heat 34. Wade 18, Dirk 12.
Game 4 at Miami: Mavs 27, Heat 36. Wade 9, Dirk 13.
Game 5 at Miami: Mavs 25, Heat 49. Wade 25, Dirk 5.
Game 6 at Dallas: Mavs 23, Heat 37. Wade 21, Dirk 8.
Heat-Mavs series:
Heat 34.50 FTAs per game, Wade 16.16 FTAs per game (5.46 above season average)
Mavs 25.83 FTAs per game, Dirk 9.16 FTAs per game (1.76 above season average)
Ironically, Duncan enjoyed a higher FT boost than Wade did over regular season averages. Now, there's a lot of factors that go into that, considering that the Spurs don't generally run their offense through Duncan in the regular season (he rarely goes for 30+ in a regular season game), whereas in the playoffs he becomes the focal point of the Spurs offense. Duncan shot over 50% of his points in the paint, whereas Wade shot 35% of his points in the paint.
I have to give credit to the Heat for beating us in 2006. It does a franchise no good to adopt an excuses-making, sore loser mentality. There are basketball reasons above and beyond the refs that explains why that series turned out the way it did.
One thing is clear though: Spurs fans are totally full of to complain that the refs jobbed them in 2006, just as the Mavs fans are to say the same about the Finals. And it's totally false that the Mavs "got a taste of their own medicine" in the Finals when they weren't the beneficiary of lopsided officiating in the Spurs-Mavs series.
Similary, Dirk averaged 19.3 FGA per game in the RS, 15.7 FGA per game against SA, and took 17.5 FGA/game against Miami. His shots went down, and his FTA/Game went up? Weird...
Wade, 18.8 FGA/Game RS, 23.16 fga/game against Dallas.
Lol, I know--should've put a little emoticon @ the end. I thought it was funny
lol Timmy getting hacked blatantly
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