If you make 2 clutch plays in 10 years playing for a team

[monosylab1k]

Just responding to a delusional Mav fan that refuses to beleive those world class choke jobs happened.

It didn't happen the way you wrote it, cheese .

[nkdlunch]

my bad sylab1k.

regardless doesn't change the fact that Mavs are chokers by definition.

I stand corrected:

"the Heat rallied from a 13-point deficit with six minutes to go in the fourth quarter"

[monosylab1k]

my bad sylab1k.

regardless doesn't change the fact that Mavs are chokers by definition.

I stand corrected:

"the Heat rallied from a 13-point deficit with six minutes to go in the fourth quarter"

Thanks for admitting you had your wrong and made yourself sound ing re ed.

Return to your tamales.

[nkdlunch]

Thanks for admitting you had your wrong and made yourself sound ing re ed.

Return to your tamales.

LMAO truth hurts huh?

[monosylab1k]

LMAO truth hurts huh?

No, it didn't hurt to discover you were a dip fat who got his facts wrong.

[nkdlunch]

back to the subject... let's take a closer look at how a team chokes in the NBA's biggest stage: (fast forward to 6 mins to go in the quarter)

[picc84]

Let me ask you this, do you consider Ginobili clutch?

Extremely.

Not because of just shot-making. But all the other things i've mentioned that make Fisher a brain-fart factory. I've seen Manu make clutch passes, snatch clutch rebounds, make clutch defensive plays, hit clutch shots, etc. Decision-making is a huge part of it.

These are the things that make you clutch, not just hitting a jumpshot at the end of a game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Derek Fisher averaging 10 PPG on 57% TS so far in the playoffs..he's still got the playoff magic..

I can't believe I had to defend him to Laker fans, they should know what he brings to the table..as somebody that hates the Lakers, I'll be happy the day Fisher is no longer with the team, the guy is a legit role player playoff performer, the Lakers true leader..

I'd like to see some apologies to Fish..

[MadDog73]

Kobe fans wish the NBA was one-on-one.

Really, Kobe love is beyond ridiculous.

It's a TEAM game, people. TEAM.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Derek Fisher averaging 10 PPG on 57% TS so far in the playoffs..he's still got the playoff magic..

I can't believe I had to defend him to Laker fans, they should know what he brings to the table..as somebody that hates the Lakers, I'll be happy the day Fisher is no longer with the team, the guy is a legit role player playoff performer, the Lakers true leader..

I'd like to see some apologies to Fish..

This isn't football. Basketball is not a one-way sport. Fisher's defensive liabilities cost the Lakers dearly on a regular basis.

That said, Fisher is not as bad as many make him out to be. He and Kobe both have picked it up recently.

Also, Fisher stopped another 3-on-1 fastbreak by himself yesterday. I still say there's no one better in the league at doing that. He may be a bad defender but he's just uncanny at breaking up impossible-to-defend fastbreaks.

[picc84]

He destroyed our own 3-on-1 fastbreak at the end too. There's also no one better at that.

[MadDog73]

I can't believe I'm defending Fisher, but doesn't he have the Laker's best 3 pt percentage in the playoffs?

If Fisher sucks, where does that leave the Lakers w/o him?

[picc84]

Fisher had a good shooting series vs OKC, compared to his average.

How that changes the fact he was statistically the worst starter in the NBA this season, was the worst starter in last years playoffs and regular season, and single-handedly increased Russell Westbrooks trade value 3-fold is a mystery known only to you.

[HarlemHeat37]

It doesn't change that..

The point I'm making is that he still makes big plays in the playoffs AND he's still an upgrade over Farmar/Brown..

He's played well in the playoffs so far and he's made some timely shots, as usual..

[mavsluva]

Does that really make you clutch?

Is that the bare bones minimum for what it takes? Thats an average of once every 5 years.

How is clutch defined - do you include defensive plays as well? What about shots missed during that time. Do those things factor in as well?

At some point do the positives become a fluke? When the negatives are much, much more common?

No, it just makes you most fortunate.

[HarlemHeat37]

Fisher coming through AGAIN..ageless wonder..

[resistanze]

lol

[Mel_13]

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[HarlemHeat37]

Fish being Fish..

Laker fans ungrateful, as usual..this is like how a few Spurs fans on Bruce Bowen, except in LA's case, it was pretty much their entire fanbase that did it all year..

[DAF86]

Fish being Fish..

Laker fans ungrateful, as usual..this is like how a few Spurs fans on Bruce Bowen, except in LA's case, it was pretty much their entire fanbase that did it all year..

To elevate Kobe they have to bring their teammates down.

[Bob Lanier]

Once again, there's no such thing as clutch, but Fisher's played well.

[hitmanyr2k]

I've said it once and I'll say it again. All the Laker "fans" that cursed Fisher all year long to prop up Kobe should be lined up and slapped.

[HarlemHeat37]

As a Spur fan, I know exactly how it feels to have a guy like Fisher on my team..we had Bowen and Horry for years, and the majority of Spurs fans appreciated everything they gave to this team..

Even last year, when Bowen still had legs but was clearly past his prime, most Spur fans still wanted him on the team and wanted him to start..the majority of Laker fans(and this isn't hyperbole, go to a Laker forum and look at the Fisher hate all year) wanted Fisher benched or even off the team..

Just a disgusting fanbase, they don't deserve a successful team like they have..it will be evident again once the Lakers win the le and they destroy their own ing city for the millionth time..