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    violence is the last refuge of the incompetent

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    morons

    sisk and mavs>spurs

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    i think world peace is possible

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    I could believe the idea of someone "just snapping" if this had been a face to face exchange. This kid had plenty of time to realize that that kind of violence against someone over words is just wrong, and it seems he never did. To me that sounds like something much deeper, much darker than simply blind rage.

    The girl crossed a line but to say she deserved this on any level is insane.

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    tbh we all say things that we don't necessarily mean literally like "ima kill that guy" or this or that, but i doubt if he intended to actually kill her, just beat the out of her which she deserved.

    actually i take that back i didn't read the part about teh steel toes LOL

    what a badass. i wish he was my brother
    only a stupid mother er posts an article without fully reading it

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    "That's not Wayne's nature," she told "Today." "He's not a bully."
    putting on steel-toed boots and intentionally going after someone to "kill them" can be classified as more than "being a bully".

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    how's that?

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    I could believe the idea of someone "just snapping" if this had been a face to face exchange. This kid had plenty of time to realize that that kind of violence against someone over words is just wrong, and it seems he never did. To me that sounds like something much deeper, much darker than simply blind rage.

    The girl crossed a line but to say she deserved this on any level is insane.
    Agreed.

    Face to face, if she'd said that and he gave her a black eye or broke her nose, I'd be a lot less sympathetic.

    What he did though was put on steel-toed boots. Text people that he planned to find her and kill her. Sought her out at a different school (iirc), and then proceeded to beat the crap out of her, in such a way that I find it difficult to believe he just snapped. I think there was a deliberation to his actions, and that is what I find most chilling.

    I'm not saying the girl was right to say what she said. But . . . nothing she could text to someone would justify what he did to her.

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    talking about someone's dead brother is not cool. seeking vigilante justice to take that person out, bragging about your intended actions to friends in a lets leave a paper trail kind of way (thus putting them in a position to be charged as an accessory) and kicking a hoe in the face with steel toed boots, nearly killing them in the process is even less cool.

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    apart from you constantly trolling, lets look at this from this standpoint: humans are animals

    you say that violence is bred from incompetence which may be true, but that's our nature as humans. it's a natural reaction to seek revenge against someone that has gone against you, in this case she insulted someone (his brother) who'd killed himself essentially right in front of him. this obviously brought up extreme feelings and he hated her for whatever she said to him.. his reaction, while brutal and barbaric, is a human reaction. of course, he didn't handle this in the right way and what he did is unforgivable but it does take two to tango.

    she's a girl, he should've never laid a hand on her and i don't condone that at all but his brain was obviously not strong enough to withhold his anger against her.. he went into overload and it's a slippery slope at that point

    it's a ty situation all around that could've been prevented at many different levels

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    apart from you constantly trolling, lets look at this from this standpoint: humans are animals

    you say that violence is bred from incompetence which may be true, but that's our nature as humans. it's a natural reaction to seek revenge against someone that has gone against you, in this case she insulted someone (his brother) who'd killed himself essentially right in front of him. this obviously brought up extreme feelings and he hated her for whatever she said to him.. his reaction, while brutal and barbaric, is a human reaction. of course, he didn't handle this in the right way and what he did is unforgivable but it does take two to tango.

    she's a girl, he should've never laid a hand on her and i don't condone that at all but his brain was obviously not strong enough to withhold his anger against her.. he went into overload and it's a slippery slope at that point

    it's a ty situation all around that could've been prevented at many different levels
    violence as in fighting, not warfare. humans are not animals. an incompetent person would believe that. he had more than enough time to contemplate his actions to identify it as reactionary.

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    lol

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    very often, humans are worse than animals. Look up the horrible story of Baby Peter.

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    thispego, i'd love to see your reaction to someone who insulted your family

    although you don't seem like someone who'd defend your family anyways so i wouldn't be surprised at the outcome

    not to mention a family member who you found dead after committing suicide

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    very often, humans are worse than animals. Look up the horrible story of Baby Peter.

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    thispego, i'd love to see your reaction to someone who insulted your family

    although you don't seem like someone who'd defend your family anyways so i wouldn't be surprised at the outcome

    not to mention a family member who you found dead after committing suicide
    you dont know about the cir stances surrounding the kids brothers suicide so quit acting like you do. And yeah, when someone insults my family, i take it as an indication that they are upset with their own life and see me and/or my family as a threat to their own self-worth. So basically, i dont do anything when someone insults me or my family... except laugh and laugh and laugh

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    you dont know about the cir stances surrounding the kids brothers suicide so quit acting like you do. And yeah, when someone insults my family, i take it as an indication that they are upset with their own life and see me and/or my family as a threat to their own self-worth. So basically, i dont do anything when someone insults me or my family... except laugh and laugh and laugh
    i don't need to "know " about his brothers death. all i need to know is the fact that a 15 YEAR OLD CHILD WALKED UP ON HIS BROTHER HANGING FROM A TREE.

    apparently you're the incompetent one

    do you actually believe what you're saying or are you trolling me? i genuinely can't tell

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    As the Disgruntled guy pointed out, this is a product of the e-society we live in. The lines of reality/civility have been blurred and we have all been desensitized. The insults and threats abound here on this board every day without so much as a second thought. We have no way of knowing who is kidding, who serious. But the person who chooses to cross that blurred line and act on it with violence is ALWAYS WRONG.

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    Isn't it possible that the girl "just snapped" when she made the remark about his brother? Why is his alleged temporary insanity more a factor than hers?

    The premeditation of all of this is what bothers me. Pretty brutal.

    But I still don't understand why we try non-adults as adults.

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    Tracy's emotional trauma over his brother's death went unrecognized by his parents...
    Are we really supposed to buy this? No offense, but they have one kid who already killed himself and now another kid who quite possibly killed someone.

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    But I still don't understand why we try non-adults as adults.
    if we were talking about a 9,10 or even 11 year old kid, i'd be inclined to agree with you (in most cases at least). but this is a 15 year old, he should have the mental capacity to process consequences for such ridiculously violent actions. i was a pretty dumb 15 year old, getting into trouble and general mischief, but near murder at that age isn't something he should get a slap on the wrist for.

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    you just know a kid with a fatigue patterned top is gonna be trouble...and you call that a smile?

    and the chic looks like a trouble making gossip girl.

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    i don't need to "know " about his brothers death. all i need to know is the fact that a 15 YEAR OLD CHILD WALKED UP ON HIS BROTHER HANGING FROM A TREE.

    apparently you're the incompetent one

    do you actually believe what you're saying or are you trolling me? i genuinely can't tell
    i dont troll. i just correct people when they are wrong.

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    if we were talking about a 9,10 or even 11 year old kid, i'd be inclined to agree with you (in most cases at least). but this is a 15 year old, he should have the mental capacity to process consequences for such ridiculously violent actions. i was a pretty dumb 15 year old, getting into trouble and general mischief, but near murder at that age isn't something he should get a slap on the wrist for.
    Oh I'm not suggesting a slap on the wrist but there is a reason we consider minors minors. Just seems a bit arbitrary to make the distinction if we make exceptions for cases based on severity.

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